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Patrick Smith : Rugby League a sick code

DIEHARD

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Patrick Smith said:
Amputation is the only answer
By Patrick Smith

This is the tragedy of rugby league. The code is so wretchedly ill that it cannot heal itself. Left alone, league has neither the strength, the spirit nor expertise. It cannot even determine the illness which has left the game so fevered and bleeding that its condition might be terminal.

Geoff Carr must go immediately. The ARL chief executive has had time and opportunity to show that he at least understood the disease, could spot a symptom. He cannot even take its temperature. Three times Carr has got it wrong. If he was your local GP you would be reading this in heaven.

Last month Darren Lockyer makes that awful joke about Johnny Raper and Carr defends the Test captain. It was the joke of the week and someone was going to repeat it, Carr said. On Thursday news breaks of an obscene phone message left by a league player and Carr declares it a media beat-up. The reporting is vindictive. He actually believes Anthony Minichiello lost his phone. When the evidence is indisputable, Carr offers the woman compensation - free tickets to the footy.

These are examples of a man oblivious to a culture which has swallowed his sport. It is a culture that recognises no barriers, has no respect for women and none for the game. Everything and everyone is held in contempt. The game only respects money and the trappings it delivers. It is deaf to advice and blind to precedent.

Carr does not condone it but nor does he understand it. His football code stinks. Parts of the sport acted in a vile manner in the wake of the Coffs Harbour allegations. Parts have acted obscenely this week. It is no better one month from the next. If nothing changes as a result of this week's humiliations league will be as putrid in June as it was in March.

Some of the players are fools but they not only survive in league, they prosper. The players are shown no guidance by the men employed to direct and counsel them. The best advice the game can give players in preparation before State of Origin is to get drunk together. Players are protected, the game laid vulnerable.

After all that has happened in Coffs Harbour - not once but twice; after all that has happened at State of Origin camps - not once but countless times, coaches and administrators watch and condone their players drinking themselves into stupidity and strife. NSW coach Phil Gould had wanted a dry camp but succumbed to pressure from players. As if it should be a point of discussion. The game is guzzling itself to irrelevancy.

Supporters are betrayed. The phone message is published in full in The Australian. The outright obscenity of Mark Gasnier's comments means the incident could not be passed off as a harmless prank. A 22-year-old man is not a kid; obscenity is not funny. You can hear the hurt in the voices of the fans.

They ring to tell of Willie Mason. Of his language in front of children, of his inappropriate doodlings at autograph sessions, of deliberately signing another player's name. All of this after Gasnier was forced into a confession.

They watch the story unfold. Another voice is heard on the tape. The ARL summons three more players to headquarters. There is a news conference yesterday set for 3pm. By 6pm nothing has happened. The ARL is paralysed.

Rugby league cannot help itself. There is no cure for a disease you cannot diagnose. Fines and suspensions won't help the code now. Now is the time for amputations, not operations. Players must be thrown out of the competition. Administrators must be removed and outsiders brought in. A transplant of heart and soul is required.

The traditional, secretive code remains in place. David Gallop, the chief executive of the NRL, has worked tirelessly but as of 3.41 on Wednesday morning, ineffectively. As the Gasnier story breaks Gallop is addressing a seminar on sport's attitude to women. His own code mocks him. Canterbury will not name the players who breached the code of conduct. Justice in league is anonymous and random.

State of Origin is league's showcase. People who gave up on league clung to these mighty representative confrontations. Now they ring radio stations to say enough is enough. Every part of the game has been soiled. Channel Nine must fear for its ratings. Perhaps fittingly, it is only the hard-core fans who will stick. Sponsors and families won't.

If rugby league is to start to recover at all, then it must start all over again.

The Australian

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rugged

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All of us here love the game, but the players aren't respecting the game or the fans.
 
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The players have never respected their fans.. If you see them out on the town, most are too upthemselves to chat to you.. They feel as if they are above you..
 

ucantseeme

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what a load of crap. free tickets to the footy indeed.

how can such a trivial thing be sensationalised too such a high degree.

what gasnier said on the phone was a bit grubby but the way the media have responded has been absolutely sickening. :evil:
 

DIEHARD

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This bloke is the sports editor of the Australian isn't he? He could at least to try and be a bit objective and not wave his AFL flag at every chance. The AFL are just as worse even more so in cases. I can't believe people like this are even allowed into journalism. :x :x :x
 

DIEHARD

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That's bullshit not even the majority of players think that.

You have to understand sometimes players aren't going to be your best buddy when you see them out and about. Because everyone knows them. Try living like that!

I wont have the majority of players damned for the actions of a minority, a group of disgusting individuals that are present in any social sphere, just amplifed in the sporting world.
 
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Whether you like it or not, he 100% right about our code (let's forget AFL for a second) people at the top are loath to make the hard decisions.

Case in point if taking a mobile phone into Origin camp is a sackable offense (they have said it is) why was Anthony Minichiello not sacked immediately yesterday. He should have been gone before Gasnier.

Eight players have broken Origin rules yet 2 find themselves out and the rest in. The whole lot of them should have been sacked. One in all in, in my book.
Willie Mason is a prime example of someone who continually does stupid irresponsible things but other than a fine here and there, he has not really been punished properly.

I have no sympathy for Minichiello actually I am disappointed in him not because he took his phone to camp, that was stupid. But because he stood there and lied to 2 people that went into bat for him and then had them defend him publicly and he also had his fans defending him whilst deep down he knew he was lying.

Every player as well as the security guard assigned to the team and Geoff Carr have to held responsible and all of em should have been sacked.

One interesting point was that all the players were from city teams.
 

Saint 60

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The press lol

Gould is the coach and supremo (in his own mind) -- hes to blame


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They were selling Goats and Balloons at a Shire pub ---
Goats and blowing equipment hmmmm
 

JW

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Patrick Smith is a androtop. Already established.

Nonetheless, he raises some valid and interesting points in his article.

However, I still to this day, will not except his references to the entire sport when speaking about these incidents.

What a society we must live in. For every 5, 6, 7 or 8 fools that are used to represent a community of people and of sport, 500, 600, 700 or 800 who are blessings to the community are consequently painted with the same filthy brush by people like Smith.

I agree with his comments about certain individuals, but I strongly disagree with almighty comments and suggestions about the sport.

Cheers.
 

DJ1

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The problem has actually come about by Gallop decision to put the responsibility for the off field behaviour of players and fans onto the clubs.

The result from this precedent is that now the administration of the game will be totally answerable for all future actions and must also be seen to be dealing with the situation effectively.
 

Razor

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You have to understand sometimes players aren't going to be your best buddy when you see them out and about. Because everyone knows them. Try living like that!

People have to think how they would react if countless people they didn't know kept going up and wanting to talk with them while they were with a group of friends.
 

Bengal

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DJ1 said:
The problem has actually come about by Gallop decision to put the responsibility for the off field behaviour of players and fans onto the clubs.

The result from this precedent is that now the administration of the game will be totally answerable for all future actions and must also be seen to be dealing with the situation effectively.

Iagree with you and with JW also.
 

choc_soldier

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JW said:
However, I still to this day, will not except his references to the entire sport when speaking about these incidents.

That's what pisses me off most about this article, and past articles by him.

A few unexcusable actions by a handful of players (which does break my heart and test my patience as a fan of the greatest sport of all), and he tars the brush across the whole code.

I think he should worry about what's going on in his code - players caught drink driving, dealing in drugs and their own sex allegations.

Leave stuff like this to people who know what they're talking about. Patrick Smith ain't one of them.
 

t-ba

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What are you worried about? Whenever P Smith opens his trap like this, the AFL is rocked by a similiar scandal.

I Don't read the Australian purely on account of Patrick Smith (And sent an email to that effect) and I couldn't be bothered with the Big Lout. The Only People who read the Australian Are Southerners, Mexican Expats and upper-middle class Twats. For the Sports editor of something that is meant to have a national focus, he is a joke. I wish we had administrators like Demetriou and Mcguire who opened their traps whenever the slightest insult is heaped upon their code or bias against it is raised, because P. Smith would be out of the Job by now.
 

Anonymous

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Razor said:
You have to understand sometimes players aren't going to be your best buddy when you see them out and about. Because everyone knows them. Try living like that!

People have to think how they would react if countless people they didn't know kept going up and wanting to talk with them while they were with a group of friends.

I would love it. I bet they don't complain when the girls come up to them. They just get their phone numbers for later, class acts that they are.
 

gaterooze

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Patrick Smith... if any code is sick, it's the one which pays a woman $200,000 to shut up after 3 of their players follow her into the woods and rape her, leaving her out in the dark.

A few league players acted like boofheads this week, but seriously, SERIOUSLY, is anything they did any different from what most young guys their age do on a night out? Yes, they were stupid and vulgar, yes they should have realised what kind of notice would be attracted, but Smith's article makes me more sick than what actually took place.
 

Iafeta

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What is wrong with his comments? Its the truth, every month theres another crisis. Salary cap, rape, visiting brothels while in camp, signing other players names, players wanting out of deals, johnny raper jokes, drug claims, not paying cabbies... He's having a go at a head honcho who does for all intents and purposes, whether we like it or not, whether its written by an AFL guru or Bob Hope, seems oblivious to the publics perception of the players behaviour.

Until we realise that the codes players do need massive education (they should NOT need it but its obvious they do), then to ignore these sorts of comments and base them as being league bashing is sending rugby league for more pitfalls.
 

Kaz

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Chicken_Hunter said:
The players have never respected their fans.. If you see them out on the town, most are too upthemselves to chat to you.. They feel as if they are above you..

Not all players are like that.
 

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