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mxlegend99

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If the stars took unders to keep the team together they could but now aday everyone wants the money which is fair enough as careers aren't long.
After each premiership the value of them would go down for each player as far as contracts sacrificego.

Luai as an example. Has 3 premierships. Is a 4th / 5th or whatever really worth the ~$500k a year he would be sacrificing to stay? At the start of his career a premiership with his mates might have been. But now its just another ring.

I mean we couldn’t even keep Critter and Turuva on nearly equal money to what Tigers and Bulldogs threw at them. They had their mates here, success, similar money and still happily left for teams that fought for spoons while they were winning premierships. How does that happen?
 

Penrith fan

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I'm talking more about the fact that Penrith should be given some extra salary cap arrangement because they have grown their own players through their own system.

Penrith deserve an advantage because they have worked hard to develop players for the last 10 years.

It was the same argument for the Melbourne Storm in the day. Greg Inglis, Cooper Cronk. Cameron Smith and Billy Slater were all home grown products that the Storm nurtured and then they have to give players up, players they have spent 10 years developing since they were kids.

The system favours mediocrity and doesn't favour teams who really work hard and develop their own players. There is no attempt to reward excellence. More likely in today's modern society, those people are brought down.

But the whole of society is like that now. There is no real reason to try. Gen Z or whatever they are called are dropping out. Sigma Males won't even talk to women any more for fear of being labelled a misogynist.

And Jim Chalmers wonders why the birth rate is so low? He and his have created this woke society where men and women can't even talk in a playful way.

Because social media, smartphones, internet and the "everyone gets a participation certificate" generation, has dumbed down society so much.

Wokeness, and all the snowflakes that howl when people speak their minds have destroyed any debate.

Before the advent of all our modern-day technology it was required otherwise one or one's clan or tribe may not have survived. In those days fight or flight was part and parcel to the equation. Common sense and logical thinking were a requirement, or your tribe or clan could be destroyed and wiped out by another or a pandemic or epidemic.

Common sense today no longer so common as psychologists and philosophers have decided as to what it should and shouldn't be. Not to mention all the rubbish one reads on the internet. Today it can be construed in many different ways.

Most of which make society bland and biennial.

We should always reward excellence.



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After each premiership the value of them would go down for each player as far as contracts sacrificego.

Luai as an example. Has 3 premierships. Is a 4th / 5th or whatever really worth the ~$500k a year he would be sacrificing to stay? At the start of his career a premiership with his mates might have been. But now its just another ring.

I mean we couldn’t even keep Critter and Turuva on nearly equal money to what Tigers and Bulldogs threw at them. They had their mates here, success, similar money and still happily left for teams that fought for spoons while they were winning premierships. How does that happen?

It probably reflects that players are not all the same. Some just want money, some just want to win comps, some just want to play a certain position, some just want to play for a certain coach, some just want a new challenge, some want a certain lifestyle - or a combination of these. That's life, and all people have differing wants and needs.
 

This Year?

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PENRITH are taking over the NRL one club at a time.
Tonight we witness the inaugural PENRITH v inner-eastern PENRITH match.
Bitches be cryin' about kompensayshun, but we're being rewarded by having the privilege of witnessing more PENRITH.
 

Fangs

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I had a coffee at RAW bar in Belmore today. And all of them are backing the Panthers tonight.

Didn't see a single Dogs jersey either I'm afraid.
 

Frailty

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its more like the Panthers shouldn't have to give up ground they have gained due to better processes

it shouldn't be a communist system.

if you find a niche in the market, like the Panthers have, you should be allowed to use it to prosper not have to give up when you have developed to those who are mediocre.
Tell me you don't know what communism is without saying you don't know what communism is.
 

MugaB

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, but I still believe they were hard done by with the cap thing. Sure they broke the rules and it is what it is, but the stupid system is what allowed it. They developed all those players, other clubs all had just as good a shot it them if not better, but Storm put in the work and got punished for it.


You say we need to sit down and relax. Maybe we should make bred not bought T Shirts like some numpty club did in the 2000's cant for the life of me recall who it was, maybe you can help me? They lost 3 or 4 players iirc.

In closing you should all be really sucking our dicks and saying thank you. If it wasn't for the clubs that put in the resources to find and develop players the rest of the shit clubs would have nothing to pay overs for. In the case of your club they at least are now putting the systems in place to get back to developing instead of raping the hardworking clubs..
Although I agree with the thank you after dick sucking statement, the rest doesn't compute.

Regarding the storm, what the fk is going on here, the storm didn't have to pay their big four humongous salaries to stay, so its not the same thing, they ended up doing it coz each of those wanted big money and wanted to stay, hence yahts hiding in garages, none of them took less (unders) to keep their dominant side going.... SO fuɔk THE greedy merkins
They got what they deserved, we are actively losing players because we aren't willing to breach our cap..
The players who leave us are ok with leaving coz they know they are getting what they are worth elsewhere, and know they cant stay, we don't need compensation on the salary cap that's not what it was brought in to do...
It was brought so that clubs don't overspend and drive themselves into massive debt over multiple million dollar players on the squad... it was also mean to work alongside a draft, but f**k that, we aren't built like that, survival of the fittest is relatalible and engrained in RL..
If Penrith want compensation they can get it via transfer fees, and government subsidies, for the actual junior competitions, get them to pay for kits for clubs, insurance for lower grades, all the extra shit parents need to pay, so little Jimmy can become a local Gladiator... government can build more stands at the stadium or upgrade the facilities around it...
What's happening at Penrith regarding juniors can work at other clubs too, they've all just been too lazy to do it, infact the NRL are basically incentivising the clubs to do it, cowboys and titans getting their reserve grades instead of using feeder clubs, the storm building actively an actual junior base, its slowly happening, redcliffe got the 17th licence, with a edict that they MUST spend a certain amount on their local junior comps, to produce more of their local crop for future, its just the way the clubs are being set up for the future, Penrith were the self driven lightning rod, that is winning comps coz they did it 1st, soon all the clubs that follow that trend will be up there on the summit also, only have to look at what gus is doing at the dogs now, to see it fruition in 4 years time
 
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Penrith fan

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Penrith are the greatest team we have ever seen and will keep on winning without Nathan Clearly.

How lucky we all are to live in the era of the great Penrith Panthers.
 

Wb1234

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four straight rests on a dodgy hammy

he will be fresh though like last year for a title tilt as long as they finish top four
 

Penrith fan

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Penrith will still win without Ivan's son Nathan.

you just put a player in a Panthers Guernsey, and they grow about 9 inches taller and run 2 times faster and hit 3 times stronger.

It's the jumper and the fact they still play for their people in their region.
 

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