Peter Schwab resigns as Hawthorn Coach

[CyberKev]

Peter Schwab has announced that he will be finishing-up as Hawk coach at the end of this season...

Well done, Peter, your Frawleyesque sacrifice for the club will now allow us to pursue the experienced candidates on offer.

Expect the club to push heavy to the hoop for one Terry Wallace, who will now be at short odds to sign with the club prior to season's end.

I was surprised to hear that the rebel faction at Glenferrie had not sounded him out as of yet. The rebel faction should have started sounding out all possible options several weeks ago!

Matthews remains my white whale for the job, but given that he is likely to stay put in Brisbane, Wallace would be next on my list.

That shouldn't, however, preclude the rebel faction from entering into discussions with Lethal's management. As I see it, the fact that they are an unsanctioned rebel body, should mean that they could do this without the club incurring a fine.

CyberKev

 

[Cricketer]

Richmond better pull their finger out and sign Wallace if they want him badly, I'd prefer Eade but I think the club wants Plough - it will be an interesting few weeks!!

 

[meltiger]

Plough would choose Hawthorn over Richmond ... Shit ;-)

 

[CyberKev]

Plough would choose Hawthorn over Richmond ... sh*t ;-)

I wouldn't bet on it, Craig.

My gut feeling is that Wallace would leap at Adelaide before either Hawthorn or Richmond, but Craig still appears to have the front running there. Mind you, a few more weeks like the last two and that will all change.

The view that Wallace would want to go to Hawthorn before Richmond would be predicated on his lengthy playing career there, but elides the reality that there has been an ever simmering hostility between Wallace and the club since he departed. There is another view that Wallace wouldn't be keen to go to Richmond because of its well documented financial woes, but given that we can't be certain of Hawthorn's short-to-medium term strength in this area, I don't expect it to be a telling factor.

That being said, it would appear that Wallace is number one on both clubs hitlists. Eade certainly carries greater tactical nous than Plough, but Wallace would seem to be the harder hitting of the two.

If I had to lay money on it now, I'd say that it will be Wallace to Hawthorn, Eade to Richmond, and Craig to stay on in Adelaide.

I've all but given up on my Matthews to Hawthorn fantasy and see Wallace as the next best in line for the job, although I wouldn't say there's a significant difference between him and Eade.

Just as long as the 'Old Boys Club' doesn't pass both of them over for Ayres!!!!

CyberKev

 

[chileman]

When was the last time Hawthorn picked up the wooden spoon, would have to be back in the 60's wouldn't it???

 

[CyberKev]

When was the last time Hawthorn picked up the wooden spoon, would have to be back in the 60's wouldn't it???

1965, although even then we had a better year than we're having now!

Richmond & the Bulldogs are the only clubs that can deny us the dishonour this season.

With 6 games remaining, we can afford to win 3 and retain the priority pick, but we cannot beat the Kangaroos this week, will get smashed by Brisbane, and would need divine intervention to get over Melbourne & Geelong.

The only 2 games that appear remotely winnable are Richmond & the Hounds, and if we were to win those two without Richmond winning any it may come down to a matter of percentage.

Highly unlikely in any event, and the board will no doubt already have cleared a space in the cabinet for the spoon.

CyberKev

 

[chileman]

:shock: 1965....geez that sure is a long time between bitter drinks....no wonder there is a bit of lynching going on at the club!

 

[CyberKev]

:shock: 1965....geez that sure is a long time between bitter drinks....no wonder there is a bit of lynching going on at the club!

There'll be a good many more nooses to come yet, Old Son!

Mind you, while things are bad, they're not quite as bad as performances suggest.

For mine, the club (as a collective) has dropped its head and dropped the ball. Ostensibly, the structural deficiencies apparent in the side have snowballed into an overall confidence crisis.

This is the most telling reason for Schwab's ousting, as he had lost the players entirely, and to a degree where there was little prospect of him being able to get them back.

The appointment of a new coach should be accompanied by the appointing of new board members. 8-9 players will need to be axed, with a lot of considered thought put into the draft period. It is likely that many of the replacements will need to be groomed at Box Hill in 2005, which means that the club needs to forget about making the finals next year. Had Schwab been kept on, he would surely have made some soft options with a view to sneaking a finals place next year, but the new coach must be given the freedom to tough option his choices at the draft table.

Its not a particularly pretty picture, but as I've made clear previously, most clubs in this competition are painfully average, which means that the Hawthorn club doesn't have a huge gap to get across in order to catch (and indeed overtake) most of the clubs in the competition. Smart choices and concerted effort could well have the club back in the finals mix as early as 2006...

CyberKev

 

[meltiger]

:shock: 1965....geez that sure is a long time between bitter drinks....no wonder there is a bit of lynching going on at the club!

There'll be a good many more nooses to come yet, Old Son!

Mind you, while things are bad, they're not quite as bad as performances suggest.

For mine, the club (as a collective) has dropped its head and dropped the ball. Ostensibly, the structural deficiencies apparent in the side have snowballed into an overall confidence crisis.

This is the most telling reason for Schwab's ousting, as he had lost the players entirely, and to a degree where there was little prospect of him being able to get them back.

Exactly the same as what we are seeing at Richmond mate. It's not that the team is bad - We showed against Brisbane with Matty out there that we can play, it's just that Frawls lost the players last year after the Knights sacking.


Personally, I think the one that gets Wallace will play finals next year.

 

[meltiger]

"With Matty NOT out there" I mean ;-)

 

[CyberKev]

Personally, I think the one that gets Wallace will play finals next year.

I don't think Hawthorn will play finals next year whoever they get

Funnily enough, Craig, 9 out of every 10 "Monday Experts" that I talk to assure me that Eade is the better coaching proposition...

Go figure...

CyberKev

 

[meltiger]

Personally, I think the one that gets Wallace will play finals next year.

I don't think Hawthorn will play finals next year whoever they get

Funnily enough, Craig, 9 out of every 10 "Monday Experts" that I talk to assure me that Eade is the better coaching proposition...

Go figure...

CyberKev

Eade is a better Tactician ... Wallace a tougher coach.


As much as I respect Eade, look at how Goodes has come on since he left ...


It's Wallace for mine.

 

[choc_soldier]

Another week... another heavy loss for the Hawks.

What the HELL is going on down there? :shock:

 

[CyberKev]

Another week... another heavy loss for the Hawks.

What the HELL is going on down there? :shock:

While Schwab is allowed to continue at the helm, these sorts of scorelines will continue to materialise.

Dunstall & Dicker have to bite the bullet today and tell Peter to "GO YE!"

If we can write off the final year of his contract, then we can write off the final 5 weeks of this season, and Donald McDonald should be installed as caretaker coach, effective Immediately!

You know you've officially bottomed out as a team when opposition hard men (ie Glen Archer) express sympathy for you in the national media

The players, with few exceptions, look as if they'd rather be anywhere other than on the paddock, and Schwab gives a similar impression from the box. His coaching was dismal again on the weekend, and quite aside from the damage he is doing to overall team morale, it is clearly evident that he is killing young talents Hodge, Bateman & Williams softly with his song!

It may be in our favour to be losing matches at the moment, but it isn't in our best interests to be getting belted, as all it can achieve is the scaring away of potential coaches and sponsors.

Get Schwab out of there!!!

Coaching matters aside, media reports arising in regard to the club's medical staff and processes are equally horrific!

Consider this:

* Far and away the worst record in the comp with soft tissue injuries over recent years.

* Suggestions that the club is misguided in its handling of the dreaded OP injury.

* The consistent playing of "great white hope" Hodge while injured, culminating in the ludicrous situation of him playing for weeks with stress fractures in his foot earlier this season!

* The misdiagnosing of Campbell Brown's shoulder break last season, with club medicos allowing him to drive home with the problem!

* The misdiagnosing of Doug Scott's broken leg earlier this year, prompting the club to allow him to play matches for a number of weeks, further exacerbating the problem!

Cooee let me tell ya, the club needs the football equivalent of a royal commission, and it needs it NOW, not during the off-season.

The Hawthorn Football Club... Its like a never-ending amateur hour :evil:

CyberKev

 

[Up the mighty Phins]

You wish is granted, Cyberkev.

 

[CyberKev]

You wish is granted, Cyberkev.

Tis indeed, Phins Old Son!

Of course, given that Donald McDonald has been our forwards coach for the past two seasons, and we've had the worst forward line in the comp over the past two seasons, its quite possible that this will end up being one of those Wishmaster movie type scenarios 8-[

CyberKev