What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

Iamback

Coach
Messages
17,655
What I don’t understand is the constant negativity surrounding the extended tv deal.
yes it’s not ideal .
& please correct me if I’m wrong .,But IIRC when the comp was halted at the start of covid it was renegotiate or be in breach of contract for failing to supply the product?
We had very little $$$ to see us through an unknown length of a shutdown period.
So they renegotiated from a very weak position .
Hence the deal we ended up with .
Breach of contract or new deal.

& as anyone knows who has been in negotiations for $$$ EBAs or similar .
you must have something to offer in exchange for more $$.

we had very very little.

im sure PR will put his own spin on it but I’d love to see what he would negotiate with.

I see it as we had to extend to be able to expand the game - that could be pushed back but extending gets it done sooner.

A few reports at the time had the $400m the NRL mentioned as being cash only, $450m as the total.

The figures certainly seem to back that up.

Which would be a $50m increase over last year and the game gets to expand to have a 9th game to sell.

Given the lack of competition around that seems like a decent enough deal, certain not a cheap mates rate some would have you believe
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
66,496
So @Perth Red - I think the main question people really want to put your way… Accepting your view that the Covid TV deal could potentially have been more fruitful for the NRL, overall, are you willing to admit PVL is doing a great job?
Finances are better than ever, expansion has happened succesfully with dolphins, with further expansion in the works, Vegas appears to be an initiative that is going very well.
Can you give PVL the credit most on here believe he deserves?
Ive said it plenty of times, theres some great stuff happening for the game right now, and a lot of it is due to Vlandys pushing stuff through. For me the two most notable are the investment in revenue generating assets, something others have tried but clubs have clawed back and stopped happening, and bringing in a new club, again others have talked about but failed to deliver. There has also been a lot of sht happen during his reign, stuff that most other leaders have been got rid of for a lot less.
I'll give him this, he knows how to play the game, giving the clubs a massive hand out was a smart move as hes bought their loyalty. Giving tv a super sweet deal, great move for him, he's bought their loyalty. Hes not daft.
 

Iamback

Coach
Messages
17,655
Ive said it plenty of times, theres some great stuff happening for the game right now, and a lot of it is due to Vlandys pushing stuff through. For me the two most notable are the investment in revenue generating assets, something others have tried but clubs have clawed back and stopped happening, and bringing in a new club, again others have talked about but failed to deliver. There has also been a lot of sht happen during his reign, stuff that most other leaders have been got rid of for a lot less.
I'll give him this, he knows how to play the game, giving the clubs a massive hand out was a smart move as hes bought their loyalty. Giving tv a super sweet deal, great move for him, he's bought their loyalty. Hes not daft.

Still going with the shit TV deal lies hey?
 

Canard

Immortal
Messages
34,759

Iamback

Coach
Messages
17,655
10,000 female players is the big news for me in this.

This is clearly a growth area, and can unlock some serious corporate dollars and broader fan base for the game.

Also watching NRLW, compared to most other female sports, it feels like the standard of play is far higher (notably so then AFLW for example)

NRLW Alone is the big one for me.

Souffs in most metrics are Sydney's biggest club.

Melbourne

Warriors

All don't have a team so getting that comp to having the same sides as the NRL will help big time.

3 match stand alone Origin this year too will be huge
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
66,496
Including contra there was a $90m increase of Media, gaming and licensing. That isn't a big enough increase?
alas with the figures buried in licensing we dont know how much of that is tv related, only that contra has gone up from $24mil to $34mill.
 

colly

Juniors
Messages
1,046
The issue is the AFL was in the same position, and copped similar cuts over the 2020-2022 period, and got similar increases for the 2 years to 23-24 - but still only extended for 2 years, where the NRL went for 7, and went to tender for the following years, instead of just handing it to the incumbents - because somebody had to protect the broadcasters - thats not a joke, it was part of Vlandys reasoning
It would be more accurate to say the NRL sold a 7 year contract with Foxtel Kayo.
While TV seen out their low COVID years/remaining and sold ( the NRL ) a 5 year deal towards Nine Entertainment.
 

Iamback

Coach
Messages
17,655
The issue is the AFL was in the same position, and copped similar cuts over the 2020-2022 period, and got similar increases for the 2 years to 23-24 - but still only extended for 2 years, where the NRL went for 7, and went to tender for the following years, instead of just handing it to the incumbents - because somebody had to protect the broadcasters - thats not a joke, it was part of Vlandys reasoning

That assumes that the NRL was a bad deal and rushed though.

Of the $78m cash and $10m extra contra under the broad unbrella

TV would be what

$40m cash
$10m contra?

That is a reasonable increase for continuing with 8 games a round
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
66,496
Yes we do TV was/is $115m cash with $15m contra/other
Plus $32m pa for NZ TV. It's known
thats just FTA and is the same cash wise as the last deal. $5mill contra increase. We dont know how much of the Sky nz is contra. Theres been a $10mill increase so we know $5mill is from Nine and the other $5mill is skynz and/or Fox increase.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
66,496
That assumes that the NRL was a bad deal and rushed though.

Of the $78m cash and $10m extra contra under the broad unbrella

TV would be what

$40m cash
$10m contra?

That is a reasonable increase for continuing with 8 games a round
no way of knowing how much of the $76mill is tv or not. Its unlikely to be $40mill cash as we know Ch9 is no cash increase , sky nz is $12mill cash/contra and at best Fox was $20mill cash for dolphins.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
66,496
Rugby league boss Peter V’landys has set his sights on expanding to England and turning the league into a major hotel operator – and handed his board a big pay rise – after the sport reported record revenue driven by broadcast and wagering fees.

Talking down rivals, including rugby union and soccer, and declaring his chief executive to be one of the best in any business, Mr V’landys on Wednesday laid out an audacious vision to the NRL’s 17 clubs at the league’s annual meeting.

The NRL reported revenue of $701 million, an increase of 18 per cent, and an operating surplus of $58.2 million, a 7 per cent fall, for the year to October 31. The revenue rise was driven by broadcast partners Foxtel and Nine Entertainment, the publisher of The Australian Financial Review, product fees from bookmakers and a $20 million uptick from sponsorship, game receipts and investment income.
Mr V’landys and his fellow seven commissioners – including high-profile investor Gary Weiss, former Queensland premier Peter Beattie and Sydney silk Alan Sullivan, KC – were handed a $400,000 pay increase, bringing the total pool to $1.2 million.

Mr V’landys declared CEO Andrew Abdo “one of the best chief executives in any industry” as he laid out his plan to grow the game, including a proposal to grant tax-free status to Australians involved in bringing Papua New Guinea into the NRL fold.
“To be making three consecutive profits ... is an extraordinary result, especially if you compare us to other sports,” Mr V’landys said. “Excluding the AFL, who are performing strongly, you’ve got rugby union [with] an $80 million loan that it’s relying on to stay solvent, rugby union clubs going broke, A-League clubs going broke.”
The NRL’s asset base has also increased, the accounts showed, up 29 per cent to $260.1 million. The league has already started buying hotels and currently owns three: The Quest Hotel Woolooware Bay in Sydney, the Mercure Sunshine Coast and Gambaro Hotel in Brisbane. It plans to expand the portfolio.

“The surplus is for reinvestment,” Mr Abdo said. “That new revenue stream will not only result in more funds available for distribution – more to clubs, more to players, more to grassroots football – it will future-proof the game against an impact on other revenue.”

Mr Abdo said buying hotels was about cost and revenue synergies. Mr V’landys said he expected the hotels to generate a 10 per cent annual return on investment.

“So far, all three [hotels] are bought in vicinity to where we play grassroots or elite rugby. The plan is to grow quite significantly using rugby league IP and our major events, which we place in these markets to drive the performance of these assets,” he said.


The other element of the growth plan is building the NRL’s offshore fan base.

The most ambitious part of the strategy – two matches in Las Vegas at the same venue the Super Bowl was played last week – will be played on March 2.

The intent is to capture more of the hundreds of thousands of Australians living in the United States to pay $US160 ($242) for the NRL’s subscription app, Watch NRL. It now has 3000 US users.

“Even if we just got a small percentage of them, that’s $25 million extra revenue,” Mr V’landys said. “We’re aiming for much higher than that, naturally.”
The matches between Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and South Sydney Rabbitohs, and the Sydney Roosters and Brisbane Broncos, will be broadcast on Fox Sports 1, the Murdoch family-controlled Fox Corp’s main cable sports television network. Mr V’landys said he wanted to be on Fox Sports 1 every week, but no deal has been signed.

“If we can get 1 per cent of the market in America ... that’s 3 million subscribers,” he said. “It’s a big strategy, it’s a big risk. It could be a game changer.”

Another element is plans to secure an NRL team in PNG, among the largest of South Pacific nations, where rugby codes are hugely popular.

Mr V’landys signalled he also wants to penetrate the English market. “We already have Super League and there’s hardly a [Watch NRL] subscription sold in England,” he said. “So we’re going to attack that market as well.”

Britain has its own national competition in rugby league, though it is generally considered the third most popular version of football after rugby union and the dominant soccer code.

 
Top