Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Steel Saints]

In my opinion, the worst thing done in the deal or all deals recently is shafting the fans to pay for Kayo.

Yep. With the AFL getting exceedingly more, what will happen is that by 2025, most likely there will be a Kayo price hike.

NRL fans will be paying more and at the same time, fund the AFL deal.

 

[Perth Red]

Just one thing about Redcliffe being in a spot where there's no population growth, this is not exactly true. I live in the Moreton shire and it's fkn exploding with at least 2 master-planned new cities, one underway and another in the planning stages. Not including North Lakes.

TBF outside of the inner cities and regional australia I think everywhere can lay claim to being a population growth area in Australia!

 

[Perth Red]

Just a reminder where the rot started. Back with Grant and the NSWRl/QRL and clubs. The commission needed to appoint Samuels as chair and let him take a big stick to creating a genuine independent commission, not curtail to 2 states and the clubs and f**k up the way the game is run. Nature abhors a vacuum and Vlandys is the type of leech who will fill a leadership vacuum for his own interests.

Disappointed at the direction the ARLC has taken in the past 18 months, particularly the recent surrender by chairman John Grant to NRL clubs over funding, two of Australia's most prominent businessmen have resigned as commissioners.
Graeme Samuel, a former AFL commissioner and head of ACCC, will not stand for re-election at the ARLC's annual general meeting in February and CSR boss Jeremy Sutcliffe has already tendered his resignation, despite his term not expiring.
The decisions by Samuel and Sutcliffe to resign were made ahead of the clandestine meeting of the boards of the NSWRL and QRL in Brisbane on Monday at which they reached agreement on a joint demand for a representative each on the ARLC.

Should the NRL clubs also be successful in having two representatives on a proposed nine-person commission, the balance between independents and dependents would be five to four.
This is an unsatisfactory model for those promoting impartiality, particularly non-Sydney clubs who are fearful of the influence of the strong duo of chairmen on the board of the NSWRL

ARLC commissioners Graeme Samuel and Jeremy Sutcliffe resign from panel

Disappointed at the direction the ARLC has taken in the past 18 months, particularly the recent surrender by chairman John Grant to NRL clubs over funding, two of Australia's most prominent businessmen have resigned as commissioners.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Reflector]

Triple J is good if you want to constantly listen to rap or dance music, your name is Ocean and you want to listen to ‘sweet tunes’. It’s a shame because there is a lot of decent alternative music if you wish to find it.

But yes the perception does need to be changed

P.S I’m surprised people still listen to radio frankly

I don't have digital radio in my car so the J's are the best of a bad bunch. Occasionally I'll hear a song/ artist worth listening to further, aside from all the cookie cutter crap, not to mention the lame youth group-tier jokes and pretentious wokescolding from the presenters and guest panellists.

It's either that or I'll listen to Triple M for the league talk/ coverage, but I can only hear Bon Jovi so many times in a week. Just the weekend past, they played 'Aint No Second Prize' by Barnesy literally twice in the space of 2 hours at one point.

Saying that, Jordies' analysis of Triple J rings just as true now as it did when he did this takedown of them in 2018:

 

[Reflector]

'The J's' was good in the 90s and early 2000s... fell off a cliff in the last 12 or so years though. Hilltop Hoods can f**k off lol

The Hoods make rap music for people who wear Monster energy New Era caps and drive lowered Commodore's with Chevy badges on them.

 

[Reflector]

Totally. They were fine when they actually played a real eclectic range of music (rock, blues, heavy metal, some rap and some electronica)

Every time that I have turned on their station it sounds just like every other station.

Also, several of my friends and I are university graduates and predominantly follow League. Yes, there is a ‘bogan’ element and that is perfectly fine but the followers of the game are incredibly diverse in terms of ethnic, religious, education and financial backgrounds. It’s time for the game to market this reality a lot better

Wait- are you telling me there is other food I can eat besides KFC or Macca's?

You mean to say there are other ways I can spend my disposable income than VB and SPORTSSSSBET!!!!

???

Found the closet Rugby fan.

 

[Colk]

I don't have digital radio in my car so the J's are the best of a bad bunch. Occasionally I'll hear a song/ artist worth listening to further, aside from all the cookie cutter crap, not to mention the lame youth group-tier jokes and pretentious wokescolding from the presenters and guest panellists.

It's either that or I'll listen to Triple M for the league talk/ coverage, but I can only hear Bon Jovi so many times in a week. Just the weekend past, they played 'Aint No Second Prize' by Barnesy literally twice in the space of 2 hours at one point.

Saying that, Jordies' analysis of Triple J rings just as true now as it did when he did this takedown of them in 2018:

Somebody is still playing Bon Jovi. You give music a bad name is what the song should have been called

 

[Colk]

Wait- are you telling me there is other food I can eat besides KFC or Macca's?

You mean to say there are other ways I can spend my disposable income than VB and SPORTSSSSBET!!!!

???

Found the closet Rugby fan.

Rugby Union? Jesus no.

 

[Storm80]

Just one thing about Redcliffe being in a spot where there's no population growth, this is not exactly true. I live in the Moreton shire and it's fkn exploding with at least 2 master-planned new cities, one underway and another in the planning stages. Not including North Lakes.

Valid point, but it’s just not the biggest growth area for Brisbane suburbs in next 20 years. Those are inner south and western suburbs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-suburbs-with-the-biggest-projected-population-growth-over-the-next-20-years/news-story/8939c7b16f48b0c79de40d64d3035aae%3famp

its paywalled unfortunately

“South Brisbane’s population is expected to more than double in the next 20 years, with industry experts saying the government needs to look at dispersing populations going forward.”

Suburbs with the biggest expected population growth by 2041

• South Brisbane – 17,398 more people.
• West End – 14,755 more people.
• Rochedale – Burbank- 12,180 more people.
• Newstead – Bowen Hills – 12,004 more people.
• Upper Mount Gravatt – 10,570 more people.
• Pallara – Willawong – 9,655 more people.

It’s why they built the new subway from south to city. And guess where the new subway stops - right out the front of the Gabba.

I’m not saying north shouldn’t get a team eventually. But it shouldn’t be the 2nd team when Brisbane Lions are setting up in the south and west - exactly where the population is gonna be. That’s the threat to NRL junior development

Redcliffe is 39km from Lang park. Ipswich is 41km from Lang park. Inner south and west are the growth of Brisbane.

People say Ipswich is to far out of Brisbane to get a team, so wtf is Redcliffe getting one? It’s only 2km closer to Lang park than Ipswich.

Springfield is where lions new HQ is is 30km from Lang park 27km from Ipswich and 27km to Gabba. Inner south and west (even if it’s Mount Gravatt or rocklea etc) is the perfect place for a 2nd team to build over next 20 years. The river splits the city in half anyway - so give broncos north of the river and East Tigers or Brisbane Bombers south.

They won’t do it cause News Ltd wants south and west for broncos catchment without having to do any real junior development there. The Broncos are happy for a “little brother” to play 39km away.

So what do people who love Nrl but don’t like broncos in south and west do? Go for the dolphins and travel 70km to a game in Redcliffe?? They better off avoiding the gateway and just heading south 80km to Robina to watch the Titans. It’s ludicrous.

Growing up on GC in the late 80s/90s - Redcliffe wasn’t even really thought of as Brisbane. At least not to me or everyone I knew. Similar to Ipswich or like geelong to Melbourne. So it ain’t really a real “2nd brisbane” club more like a regional venture that appeases News Ltd owned Broncos.

And the dolphins will not help develop the game south of the river - nor do the Broncos so Brisbane Lions have free reign to dominate the south (new Gabba stadium with subway station in front of it) and west Springfield HQ.

NRL couldn’t have handed the south and west better to the AFL if they tried. I’m starting to think Beta PVL is actually an AFL stooge

 

[Munky]

I don't drive much any more but if I did I'd just download a random playlist generated off Spotify using a fave band/song/genre as the input every night.

f**k the same song six times a day with twenty minutes of ads per hour.

 

[Reflector]

Souths/Easts merging is about as dumb as Norths/Manly merging. In fact mergers just don’t work.

The game would have been a lot better to try and get Sydney teams to relocate. Hard to do of course

Of the Sydney clubs to relocate, Balmain Norths and Wests were the prime candidates.

Norths tried to do the right thing and got screwed.

Balmain had been looking at relocation for at least a decade and ended up getting frightened into a merger with Wests.

Bears to Central Coast, Balmain merge with Easts (QRL) as Brisbane Tigers and Wests full-time focusing on S-W Sydney as the Western Sydney Magpies would solve a whole lot of problems when it comes to preserving long-established RL brands and expanding to areas ready to grow as RL heartlands.

Going to the game yesterday, it's insane to think that back in 2000 we had people convinced that a merger between Souths and the Roosters would equal "progress".

If you think allowing those teams to relocate as listed means there's no chance at other teams in Qld or teams in W.A, NZ etc then your thinking is too small. This "not enough talent to sustain more teams" line is a load of bullshit spin from NRL club boards and coaches who don't want anymore scrutiny on their jobs.

 

[Perth Red]

Valid point, but it’s just not the biggest growth area for Brisbane suburbs in next 20 years. Those are inner south and western suburbs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-suburbs-with-the-biggest-projected-population-growth-over-the-next-20-years/news-story/8939c7b16f48b0c79de40d64d3035aae%3famp

its paywalled unfortunately

“South Brisbane’s population is expected to more than double in the next 20 years, with industry experts saying the government needs to look at dispersing populations going forward.”

Suburbs with the biggest expected population growth by 2041

• South Brisbane – 17,398 more people.
• West End – 14,755 more people.
• Rochedale – Burbank- 12,180 more people.
• Newstead – Bowen Hills – 12,004 more people.
• Upper Mount Gravatt – 10,570 more people.
• Pallara – Willawong – 9,655 more people.

It’s why they built the new subway from south to city. And guess where the new subway stops - right out the front of the Gabba.

I’m not saying north shouldn’t get a team eventually. But it shouldn’t be the 2nd team when Brisbane Lions are setting up in the south and west - exactly where the population is gonna be. That’s the threat to NRL junior development

Redcliffe is 39km from Lang park. Ipswich is 41km from Lang park. Inner south and west are the growth of Brisbane.

People say Ipswich is to far out of Brisbane to get a team, so wtf is Redcliffe getting one? It’s only 2km closer to Lang park than Ipswich.

Springfield is where lions new HQ is is 30km from Lang park 27km from Ipswich and 27km to Gabba. Inner south and west (even if it’s Mount Gravatt or rocklea etc) is the perfect place for a 2nd team to build over next 20 years. The river splits the city in half anyway - so give broncos north of the river and East Tigers or Brisbane Bombers south.

They won’t do it cause News Ltd wants south and west for broncos catchment without having to do any real junior development there. The Broncos are happy for a “little brother” to play 39km away.

So what do people who love Nrl but don’t like broncos in south and west do? Go for the dolphins and travel 70km to a game in Redcliffe?? They better off avoiding the gateway and just heading south 80km to Robina to watch the Titans. It’s ludicrous.

Growing up on GC in the late 80s/90s - Redcliffe wasn’t even really thought of as Brisbane. At least not to me or everyone I knew. Similar to Ipswich or like geelong to Melbourne. So it ain’t really a real “2nd brisbane” club more like a regional venture that appeases News Ltd owned Broncos.

And the dolphins will not help develop the game south of the river - nor do the Broncos so Brisbane Lions have free reign to dominate the south (new Gabba stadium with subway station in front of it) and west Springfield HQ.

NRL couldn’t have handed the south and west better to the AFL if they tried. I’m starting to think Beta PVL is actually an AFL stooge

Just ask yourself, who would news ltd prefer. A team called BRISBANE Firehawks playing FT out of Suncorp and representing a key part of the city of Brisbane, or a team called THE Dolphins playing part time at Suncorp and being nomadic in the far outer northern reaches. Hmmmm tell me again why we choose Redcliffe over Easts bids?

 

[Reflector]

You only have to listen to the morons on nrl360 who go on how about how DCE doesn’t fit in because he is intelligent and articulate Like this is some bad thing!

Plenty of other players have been intelligent and articulate and popular in the NRL community.

DCE doesn't fit in because he comes across as a boat-shoed, Penguin shirt tucked in, arrogant dickhead.

 

[Colk]

Of the Sydney clubs to relocate, Balmain Norths and Wests were the prime candidates.

Norths tried to do the right thing and got screwed.

Balmain had been looking at relocation for at least a decade and ended up getting frightened into a merger with Wests.

Bears to Central Coast, Balmain merge with Easts (QRL) as Brisbane Tigers and Wests full-time focusing on S-W Sydney as the Western Sydney Magpies would solve a whole lot of problems when it comes to preserving long-established RL brands and expanding to areas ready to grow as RL heartlands.

Going to the game yesterday, it's insane to think that back in 2000 we had people convinced that a merger between Souths and the Roosters would equal "progress".

If you think allowing those teams to relocate as listed means there's no chance at other teams in Qld or teams in W.A, NZ etc then your thinking is too small. This "not enough talent to sustain more teams" line is a load of bullshit spin from NRL club boards and coaches who don't want anymore scrutiny on their jobs.

The problem was that we had to reduce the teams after the Super League war. There was no way around it. Ideally you would have relocated 4 or 5 teams out of Sydney to replace the new entities that were forcibly shut down (Perth, Adelaide, Crushers etc) merge St George and Illawarra and bring in Melbourne.

16 teams would have been ideal but the game bent over to News Limited as they normally do.

 

[mongoose]

Just one thing about Redcliffe being in a spot where there's no population growth, this is not exactly true. I live in the Moreton shire and it's fkn exploding with at least 2 master-planned new cities, one underway and another in the planning stages. Not including North Lakes.

i guess so... SEQLD is a large conurbation - like Sydney/Central Coast/Newcastle/Wollongong. You could really put a team anywhere and there are people to draw support from.

 

[Vee]

Pvl has to go

Honestly Sco Mo would be a way better chairman

Scomo might have secretly appointed himself as ARLC Chairman for all we know.

 

[Jamberoo]

Its good to get a perspective of someone on both sides of the fence, sounds you like follow both codes closely. I don't really know much about how the draft works.

The stadium puzzle in Sydney is definitely a hard one to work out...

The only aim of a draft is too even out the competition and it would be a massive cultural shift in RL. It was accepted in by the Melbourne VFL clubs in the 1980s because the game was already being centralised and clubs were starting to move to central stadiums (all clubs were playing games at Waverley and/or MCG), and supporters were distributed almost evenly across the city. An AFL style draft would mean that NRL clubs are not permitted to have any junior teams (all junior RL and development would be run by the NRL), and the bottom placed club would have first choice of 18 year olds. So, this years, Wests could take any 18yo player from anywhere.

We are told that centralised stadiums can't work due to Sydney's hilly terrain and the lack of properley planned road or public transport s

Not sure the the NRL would ever be able to get that past the clubs even if they wanted to.

Valid point, but it’s just not the biggest growth area for Brisbane suburbs in next 20 years. Those are inner south and western suburbs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-suburbs-with-the-biggest-projected-population-growth-over-the-next-20-years/news-story/8939c7b16f48b0c79de40d64d3035aae%3famp

its paywalled unfortunately

“South Brisbane’s population is expected to more than double in the next 20 years, with industry experts saying the government needs to look at dispersing populations going forward.”

Suburbs with the biggest expected population growth by 2041

• South Brisbane – 17,398 more people.
• West End – 14,755 more people.
• Rochedale – Burbank- 12,180 more people.
• Newstead – Bowen Hills – 12,004 more people.
• Upper Mount Gravatt – 10,570 more people.
• Pallara – Willawong – 9,655 more people.

It’s why they built the new subway from south to city. And guess where the new subway stops - right out the front of the Gabba.

I’m not saying north shouldn’t get a team eventually. But it shouldn’t be the 2nd team when Brisbane Lions are setting up in the south and west - exactly where the population is gonna be. That’s the threat to NRL junior development

Redcliffe is 39km from Lang park. Ipswich is 41km from Lang park. Inner south and west are the growth of Brisbane.

People say Ipswich is to far out of Brisbane to get a team, so wtf is Redcliffe getting one? It’s only 2km closer to Lang park than Ipswich.

Springfield is where lions new HQ is is 30km from Lang park 27km from Ipswich and 27km to Gabba. Inner south and west (even if it’s Mount Gravatt or rocklea etc) is the perfect place for a 2nd team to build over next 20 years. The river splits the city in half anyway - so give broncos north of the river and East Tigers or Brisbane Bombers south.

They won’t do it cause News Ltd wants south and west for broncos catchment without having to do any real junior development there. The Broncos are happy for a “little brother” to play 39km away.

So what do people who love Nrl but don’t like broncos in south and west do? Go for the dolphins and travel 70km to a game in Redcliffe?? They better off avoiding the gateway and just heading south 80km to Robina to watch the Titans. It’s ludicrous.

Growing up on GC in the late 80s/90s - Redcliffe wasn’t even really thought of as Brisbane. At least not to me or everyone I knew. Similar to Ipswich or like geelong to Melbourne. So it ain’t really a real “2nd brisbane” club more like a regional venture that appeases News Ltd owned Broncos.

And the dolphins will not help develop the game south of the river - nor do the Broncos so Brisbane Lions have free reign to dominate the south (new Gabba stadium with subway station in front of it) and west Springfield HQ.

NRL couldn’t have handed the south and west better to the AFL if they tried. I’m starting to think Beta PVL is actually an AFL stooge

Why does the location of Lions training facility have any bearing on where the next NRL should be? Aside from maybe 500 - 1000 who may attend an AFLW game in Springfield, it has no relevance at all.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

can you elaborate, what do you mean by this?

The best seats on the halfway line of the western stand are reserved for the packages that include tickets to Dolphin Oval, which is too far away for someone from Logan or Ipswich.

 

[Perth Red]

The drums are def beating for Vlandys. If anyone has the balls to go after him hard we shall see. If both state leagues (and lets face it NSWRL are there already lol) and 10 clubs want rid of him then he can be removed.

 

[Wb1234]

With the origin crowds this year and no covid costs the game will record an even bigger profit than last year

this is whilst nrl clubs are getting more money from the arlc than afl clubs get and the arlc just invested in an asset which is showing an initial ten percent yield

and next year the dolphins will enter the nrl and soon become one of the biggest rugby league clubs on earth