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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

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Last nights TV ratings showed why AFL is worth more to advertisers. They have a much more even spread of viewers. AFL 64k in Sydney and 100k in Brisbane. NRL dominated in Sydney, just beats the AFL in Brisbane but only 35k in Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide combined. So, although the overall eyeballs are similar, national advertisers get a better coverage of more markets via AFL on Ch7.
I get what you’re saying but if you get the same amount of eyeballs viewing your product on an a commercial, does it matter where those eyeballs live? Money is money. There’s opportunities for growth in other markets, I guess
 

The Great Dane

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I get what you’re saying but if you get the same amount of eyeballs viewing your product on an a commercial, does it matter where those eyeballs live? Money is money. There’s opportunities for growth in other markets, I guess
Depends on the product, it's consumer base, and the target demographics, but generally speaking if you're a business in a position where you can afford to pay for advertising slots on primetime TV then you're going to expect pretty solid national coverage.
 

Billythekid

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I get what you’re saying but if you get the same amount of eyeballs viewing your product on an a commercial, does it matter where those eyeballs live? Money is money. There’s opportunities for growth in other markets, I guess
Yes, yes it does. The thing is for these big companies they don’t just advertise during the game. They want to be associated with a national brand which they can show in all forms of advertising.

It’s why so often when you see a big brand in Australia making an ad they often choose to use an AFL ball or something AFL branded.

The game might not rate in NSW or QLD but people are absolutely aware of the swans and lions.

These companies want to run one advertising campaign and not one for the AFL states and one for the NRL states and that leaves only 1 option.
 

T-Boon

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Yes, yes it does. The thing is for these big companies they don’t just advertise during the game. They want to be associated with a national brand which they can show in all forms of advertising.

It’s why so often when you see a big brand in Australia making an ad they often choose to use an AFL ball or something AFL branded.

The game might not rate in NSW or QLD but people are absolutely aware of the swans and lions.

These companies want to run one advertising campaign and not one for the AFL states and one for the NRL states and that leaves only 1 option.
true and ratings are one thing but the reality is that the swans are the biggest football club in Sydney.
 

Perth Red

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Toyota and nab pay $21mill for afl naming rights, telstra pay $12mill for nrl rights. reality is companies want a national sport. We have to get perth and Adelaide in and soon. The good thing is if we can carve out a strong niche in those two cities in next ten years, add in brisbane3 then we have the edge as we have all major capital cities plus most of the countries larger regional cities represented. We need some aggressive expansion plans though.
Vlandys can’t deliver that, he can’t see beyond Sydney and brisbane. I’d be appointing a new chair and ceo with the main purpose of expanding the game ready for the 2028 tv deal.
 
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Toyota and nab pay $21mill for afl naming rights, telstra pay $12mill for nrl rights. reality is companies want a national sport. We have to get perth and Adelaide in and soon. The good thing is if we can carve out a strong niche in those two cities in next ten years, add in brisbane3 then we have the edge as we have all major capital cities plus most of the countries larger regional cities represented. We need some aggressive expansion plans though.
Vlandys can’t deliver that, he can’t see beyond Sydney and brisbane. I’d be appointing a new chair and ceo with the main purpose of expanding the game ready for the 2028 tv deal.
It's not just V'landys who cannot see the importance of having a national footprint. All 16 NRL clubs and state bodies are just as guilty.
 
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Profits of boom​

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys has hit back at clubs and groups in the game he says are trying to undermine him through “personal attacks” that are “misleading and opportunistic”.
V’landys has also taken a shot at the bloated AFL in a stinging return of serve to an item in this column last week.
V’landys is being hammered by club bosses about everything from the AFL’s mammoth $4.5 billion broadcast deal to the state government’s change of heart on stadium funding, and even his explanation for delaying Taylan May’s two-game ban to next year, saying it was “for the fans”.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys.

V’landys has sent this column an email promising to have the last laugh, while laying out what he says are the huge benefits to clubs and players that have resulted from the recent work of the commission.
“In 2019, the 16 NRL clubs as a group recorded $38 million in losses,” he wrote. “During COVID, when the NRL increased net funding to clubs from $29 million to $86.4 million, it meant that the 16 clubs as a group made approximately $30 million in profit when other businesses and sports were incurring heavy losses. This was on top of the $144 million per annum the NRL paid the players on behalf of the clubs.
“For the next five years we have proposed a 140% increase in funding to clubs as compared to 2019. It’s expected players are going to receive a 19% increase, 12% adjusting for expansion. Not bad considering most employees are on average receiving a 3% increase.
“Yet a minority, rather than being appreciative, are demanding more. However, what is disappointing is they have a strategy to personally attack me and the NRL in order to achieve their unrealistic demands. The NRL next year will have record revenues and a cost-effective operation, which will make record distributions to players and clubs.
“To single out broadcast in isolation is misleading and opportunistic. Firstly, the AFL’s new broadcast deal does not start until 2025. It finishes in 2031. Before 2025, the NRL will likely have done a new broadcast deal. This will mean more distributions to clubs and players and a cost-effective operation. Also, a substantial part of the AFL revenue goes to operational costs. The NRL operational costs are now 25% of its revenue. In stark contrast, the AFL operational expenses in 2021 were 47% of its revenue.

“Infighting inside the game has always held us back. Attacking the game to achieve a better result for one stakeholder group comes at the cost of the overall game. Ironically, damaging the game will hurt all of us in the future.”

 

Colk

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Profits of boom​

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys has hit back at clubs and groups in the game he says are trying to undermine him through “personal attacks” that are “misleading and opportunistic”.
V’landys has also taken a shot at the bloated AFL in a stinging return of serve to an item in this column last week.
V’landys is being hammered by club bosses about everything from the AFL’s mammoth $4.5 billion broadcast deal to the state government’s change of heart on stadium funding, and even his explanation for delaying Taylan May’s two-game ban to next year, saying it was “for the fans”.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys.

V’landys has sent this column an email promising to have the last laugh, while laying out what he says are the huge benefits to clubs and players that have resulted from the recent work of the commission.
“In 2019, the 16 NRL clubs as a group recorded $38 million in losses,” he wrote. “During COVID, when the NRL increased net funding to clubs from $29 million to $86.4 million, it meant that the 16 clubs as a group made approximately $30 million in profit when other businesses and sports were incurring heavy losses. This was on top of the $144 million per annum the NRL paid the players on behalf of the clubs.
“For the next five years we have proposed a 140% increase in funding to clubs as compared to 2019. It’s expected players are going to receive a 19% increase, 12% adjusting for expansion. Not bad considering most employees are on average receiving a 3% increase.
“Yet a minority, rather than being appreciative, are demanding more. However, what is disappointing is they have a strategy to personally attack me and the NRL in order to achieve their unrealistic demands. The NRL next year will have record revenues and a cost-effective operation, which will make record distributions to players and clubs.
“To single out broadcast in isolation is misleading and opportunistic. Firstly, the AFL’s new broadcast deal does not start until 2025. It finishes in 2031. Before 2025, the NRL will likely have done a new broadcast deal. This will mean more distributions to clubs and players and a cost-effective operation. Also, a substantial part of the AFL revenue goes to operational costs. The NRL operational costs are now 25% of its revenue. In stark contrast, the AFL operational expenses in 2021 were 47% of its revenue.

“Infighting inside the game has always held us back. Attacking the game to achieve a better result for one stakeholder group comes at the cost of the overall game. Ironically, damaging the game will hurt all of us in the future.”


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Perth Red

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V’landys is being hammered by club bosses about everything from the AFL’s mammoth $4.5 billion broadcast deal to the state government’s change of heart on stadium funding, and even his explanation for delaying Taylan May’s two-game ban to next year, saying it was “for the fans”.


that summarises nicely his latest f**k ups. Well done weidler lol
 

Steel Saints

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I guess the question that needs to be put to PVL is , "why did you prematurely extended Fox's contract when the game was in lock down during a pandemic?

And....

"Do you feel you were "played" from Nine and Fox executives after the announcement of AFL's $4.5 billion deal?
 

Colk

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I guess the question that needs to be put to PVL is , "why did you prematurely extended Fox's contract when the game was in lock down during a pandemic?

And....

"Do you feel you were "played" from Nine and Fox executives after the announcement of AFL's $4.5 billion deal?

He has already answered the first question (poorly I might add) by saying that Foxtel needed the content.

I don’t know about the second question but he seemed to take credit for fumbleball’s deal, so maybe that is his response
 

Iamback

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I guess the question that needs to be put to PVL is , "why did you prematurely extended Fox's contract when the game was in lock down during a pandemic?

And....

"Do you feel you were "played" from Nine and Fox executives after the announcement of AFL's $4.5 billion deal?

The players have asked for a 47% share of Revenue.

The $11m salary cap etc comes in as just under $300m, Which would put the total Revenue around $600m

Not sure the TV deal is as bad as has reported in that case
 

Iamback

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I get what you’re saying but if you get the same amount of eyeballs viewing your product on an a commercial, does it matter where those eyeballs live? Money is money. There’s opportunities for growth in other markets, I guess

WIN/NBN couldn't charge the same for commercials as Ch9 can. So Ch7 selling to Adelaide/Perth is more valuable overall.

Then the extra breaks
 

Iamback

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Can't post the link but here is the breakdown the players are asking
 

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Steel Saints

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The players have asked for a 47% share of Revenue.

The $11m salary cap etc comes in as just under $300m, Which would put the total Revenue around $600m

Not sure the TV deal is as bad as has reported in that case

The TV deal could have been a hellova lot better if it was done at a more appropriate time.
 

Iamback

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The TV deal could have been a hellova lot better if it was done at a more appropriate time.

When though?

End of 2022 the TV deal expired, Easy to say we should of waited but deals are started 2 years out to forward plan.

2 years out was 2020. Which was covid times, last year the comp was moved to QLD

So was only marginally better time
 

Perth Red

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The players have asked for a 47% share of Revenue.

The $11m salary cap etc comes in as just under $300m, Which would put the total Revenue around $600m

Not sure the TV deal is as bad as has reported in that case
Total revenue in 2019 was $553mill. We know betting revenue has gone up and tv has gone up a little bit. Be interesting to see how the predicted $48mill increase is broken down.
 

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