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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

Wb1234

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yes Brisbane should get another side but lets wait a bit, no need to rush them in, especially not based on some reactive decision to counter AFL. Believe it or not, RL has been strong in every single corner of Brisbane for the last 30+ years with only 1 team there. Perth or NZ2 should be next.
Imo broncos lost a lot of fans to afl post super league

we used to average 60k or so between two clubs almost 30 years ago

the dolphins are going to light a fire under the broncos ass
 

The Great Dane

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Is it really one or the other? Is it worth sacrificing and alienating an existing fan base for another?
The Americans have clearly shown that it depends on the fanbases.

It can be worth doing if you're replacing an existing fan base with a bigger, richer, and/or more passionate one, especially if you're moving a team that is struggling.

Nobody in their right mind would say that the Lakers relocation from Minneapolis to LA or Swans move to Sydney were bad ideas for example. Both resulted in great outcomes for the teams, their leagues, and their sports in general, and there's no reason why that sort of success couldn't be replicated in the NRL.

It's not going to happen in the NRL though, or at least not in the foreseeable future.
 

The Great Dane

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BTW, the only team in the NRL that I'd seriously suggest should at least consider seriously threating relocation ATM is the Raiders.

The state of Bruce stadium is seriously undermining their business and the government has outright refused to rectify that issue for over 15 years at this point. It doesn't look like there's going to be any real movement on a new stadium any time soon either, and if there is it'll be a rebuild of Bruce mainly funded by the Federal Government, which wouldn't be a great outcome.

From the point of view of the Raiders, and Brumbies for that matter, publicly exploring relocation options could be a great way to force positive change for the clubs. Either the ACT gov commits to a new stadium in the city by the end of their current lease or they relocate into a city that's offering them a better deal, either way the clubs would benefit.

They'd never even consider actually doing it though. Our sports industry simply isn't aggressively capitalist enough to pull shit like that, even if it'd be good for them.
 
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Look those who keep advocating or suggesting relocations of Sydney teams to elsewhere constantly overlook the one issue, namely the respective clubs' finances. For most Sydney based NRL teams, its financial bed rock is its leagues club. They tend to underwrite the operations of the football club. In fact some of them have it that the directors of the leagues club control the football club, or some have it that the football club appoints some of the directors of the leagues club.

As such, if you moved the football club out of the city of that leagues club, you start undermining the club, as eventually, you will get people advocating for the leagues club to sever its financial ties to the rugby league club. I suspect people would, in the longer term, resent money being spent on an organisation nowhere near them.

Hence teams like the Tigers (Wests Ashfield), Bulldogs (Canterbury Leagues), Eels (Parramatta Leagues), Penrith (Panthers Leagues), Roosters (Easts Leagues) would be committing financial hari kiri if its links to its leagues club was severed. You can say "oh but they will earn new corporate support, new fans" etc etc, but that will take quite some time to grow to replace a revenue stream, and also an asset bedrock that the leagues club provides for those clubs.
 

Wb1234

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BTW, the only team in the NRL that I'd seriously suggest should at least consider seriously threating relocation ATM is the Raiders.

The state of Bruce stadium is seriously undermining their business and the government has outright refused to rectify that issue for over 15 years at this point. It doesn't look like there's going to be any real movement on a new stadium any time soon either, and if there is it'll be a rebuild of Bruce mainly funded by the Federal Government, which wouldn't be a great outcome.

From the point of view of the Raiders, and Brumbies for that matter, publicly exploring relocation options could be a great way to force positive change for the clubs. Either the ACT gov commits to a new stadium in the city by the end of their current lease or they relocate into a city that's offering them a better deal, either way the clubs would benefit.

They'd never even consider actually doing it though. Our sports industry simply isn't aggressively capitalist enough to pull shit like that, even if it'd be good for them.
Raiders are rich

they don’t even need football club revenue to be higher with their leagues club and property assets
 

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