PNG's back.

[Pippen94]

Not a Pathers fan but if I were asked, I'd answer the same. I'm happy for the PNG people but what exactly is there to look forward to?
Crowds- only a 15k stadium
Players- most of them will come from weakening existing clubs
Every other week some unlucky club will fly a long distance to a 3rd world country where the players will at the very least be sweating their arses off for 2 competition points, it'll be the hardest game of the year to back up from . Then if you draw them at home, it'll be the lowest drawing home Crowd you can get.
And all at the cost of my taxes.
I'm not against a PNG team but am I looking forward to it? f**k no.

How shi..is Perth going to be. People don't even care about league there?! Lucky bears will be on board.

 

[Iamback]

Not a Pathers fan but if I were asked, I'd answer the same. I'm happy for the PNG people but what exactly is there to look forward to?
Crowds- only a 15k stadium
Players- most of them will come from weakening existing clubs
Every other week some unlucky club will fly a long distance to a 3rd world country where the players will at the very least be sweating their arses off for 2 competition points, it'll be the hardest game of the year to back up from . Then if you draw them at home, it'll be the lowest drawing home Crowd you can get.
And all at the cost of my taxes.
I'm not against a PNG team but am I looking forward to it? f**k no.

In this types of polls you often get non RL fans full stop. They'd here of the money outlay and be against it without researching it.

Add the people you mentioned and most would be in this boat

 

[Gobsmacked]

How shi..is Perth going to be. People don't even care about league there?! Lucky bears will be on board.

It will a good story getting the Bears back.
Unless they produce Storm level success, it'll take a decade before we see any real entrenched League support besides 10k expats changing teams.
NZ2 would have been epic, such a missed opportunity.

 

[Pippen94]

It will a good story getting the Bears back.
Unless they produce Storm level success, it'll take a decade before we see any real entrenched League support besides 10k expats changing teams.
NZ2 would have been epic, such a missed opportunity.

They missed out on nz2?! It's favourite for team 20.
As a league fan PNG, Ipswich, heartland teams over Perth, Melbourne everyday.

 

[Matiunz]

I think the other aspect with that NZ/AUS disparity being highlighted is that despite having a tax rate much lower than us and no capital gains (a much bigger deal for many players once on big money) talent has flowed out more than in.

Tough to know what that driver is but I've never understood it?
- managers/agents getting paid on pre tax income or their add on services (financial advisers etc) not being licensed?
- general lack of player education?
- is sponsorship just way higher in aus than offshore?

Could be having this exemption (which is a little different that NZ simply applying their tax rate) up in lights might help with points 1 and 2.

The main driver is the difference in league development and resources are much higher in Aus than it is in NZ. Realistically a player from NZ currently has a much better chance of making it if they move to Aus at an early age-
1. A higher level of competition at an earlier age 2.A better standard and much more resources level of coaching.
3. Schooling with a league program is vastly more common.
4. More opportunities for NSW or QLD cup than the 1 team NZ has.
5. NRL level you have the option of 9 clubs NSW to get the attention of 3 in SE QLD
6. Younger players the idea of a ‘big’ city is appealing to many.

 

[Wb1234]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_MRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fmelbourne-storms-plan-to-future-proof-roster-with-local-juniors%2Fnews-story%2F7056de25147d5b9c66125922795c76e4&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=ULTRALOW-Segment-1-SCORE&V21spcbehaviour=append

However, Storm manager of Football Ponissi says it’s a stable time for the roster as they ramp up the investment in bringing pathway players through to the NRL over the next two seasons.

Fa’alogo is one of the biggest stars to come through the club’s junior representatives pathways but they want more.

On Saturday the club’s four grades had an open training day at Pakenham, in Melbourne’s southwest, where of more than 120 players, 70 were Victorian.

A mass exodus of players in 2023 was a massive wakeup call for the Storm, who realised they needed to turn their attention to growing their own talent.

“As a club we knew we had to do something because we weren’t getting players coming through.”

As a policy, the Harold Matthews team (U`16s) is now entirely made of up Victorian players, and the goal is to bring them through to the NRL over the coming seasons.

“We’ve decided we want to give our players from Victoria the first crack at junior representatives with the Storm,” he said.

“We’ll select from the junior league down here. We’ve got a good crop over the next few years develop and the best of those can get an opportunity to continue up the pathway.

“There’s a few who might be considered this year but we had a strong NRL side this year.

“I’d say from 2026 onwards you’ll start to see players. Definitely 2027 and 2028.”

“It’s the transfer of players coming from the juniors into the NRL, that’s an area we have to improve. We haven’t done that as well as we can.

“That’s going to take time.”


Victoria would have one the smallest junior bases in the nrl and yet they are focusing on producing locals

The warriors covering nz would have potentially one of the largest junior bases in the nrl if they focused on being a development club

And png will be the biggest of all and they have been set up as a development club from day one

 

[Matt_CBY]

They missed out on nz2?! It's favourite for team 20.
As a league fan PNG, Ipswich, heartland teams over Perth, Melbourne everyday.

Okay Mr.Gallop

 

[Black Panther]

WA Bears and PNG should be squashed. No need for expansion.

 

[Matt_CBY]

WA Bears and PNG should be squashed. No need for expansion.

Lmfao. We have a new troll ladies and gentlemen.

 

[T to the T]

The amount of posters seemingly oblivious to teams travelling to Port Moresby in QCup for the past decade, is staggering. It's like the crime rate, weather, infrastructure issues only exist when there is an NRL side

QCup lives matter too!

 

[Murishido]

The main driver is the difference in league development and resources are much higher in Aus than it is in NZ. Realistically a player from NZ currently has a much better chance of making it if they move to Aus at an early age-
1. A higher level of competition at an earlier age 2.A better standard and much more resources level of coaching.
3. Schooling with a league program is vastly more common.
4. More opportunities for NSW or QLD cup than the 1 team NZ has.
5. NRL level you have the option of 9 clubs NSW to get the attention of 3 in SE QLD
6. Younger players the idea of a ‘big’ city is appealing to many.

That's largely about why more australia develops more.

Doesn't explain why someone, regardless of heritage, doesn't take the opportunity to make significantly more money for the same cap figure once developed.

Particularly players in their prime where it's a material difference without weakening what you can oay elsewhere.

Here we're talking about the png tax exemption being a cap advantage but it's tough to see that given the warriors have had a very significant cap advantage for decades.

 

[chrisD]

The population of PNG is not that much less than NSW+QLD. Given they're far more enthusiastic for league across the board than the NSW and QLD population, when professional pathways are in place we're basically doubling the base from which to draw potential players.

The atmosphere from their 15k stadium will make it better TV watching than any regular season Accor NRL game.

 

[Matiunz]

That's largely about why more australia develops more.

Doesn't explain why someone, regardless of heritage, doesn't take the opportunity to make significantly more money for the same cap figure once developed.

Particularly players in their prime where it's a material difference without weakening what you can oay elsewhere.

Here we're talking about the png tax exemption being a cap advantage but it's tough to see that given the warriors have had a very significant cap advantage for decades.

That’s assuming all things are equal which they’re not. It’s like saying why don’t all players play for Cowboys/Raiders/Knights as Accomodation costs are much cheaper etc which certainly doesn’t happen.
It’s 6% difference which is pretty quickly negated by generally having to pay overs to get players to move to Auckland.
Tax rates average out at about $23k per player but when you’re having to pay a journeyman $100k(often more) extra than they’d get at an Aus club a Marquee $300k+ it’s swallowed up and then some trying to be competitive on the player market.
That way of thinking has proven unsustainable which is why the club are desperate to become more of a development club

 

[Wb1234]

The population of PNG is not that much less than NSW+QLD. Given they're far more enthusiastic for league across the board than the NSW and QLD population, when professional pathways are in place we're basically doubling the base from which to draw potential players.

The atmosphere from their 15k stadium will make it better watching than any regular season Accor NRL game.

And the wages the nrl offers it’s basically making any png kids really really wealthy overnight

 

[MugaB]

WA Bears and PNG should be squashed. No need for expansion.

Why bother coming to the expansion threads to speak this garbage... fkn what a waste of time you are... KAUFUSI!!!!!

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Why bother coming to the expansion threads to speak this garbage... fkn what a waste of time you are... KAUFUSI!!!!!View attachment 97564

you two panthers fans should fight for ultimate supremacy

 

[marshall stalin]

I wonder from when PNG will be allowed to sign players, coaches and support staff. Obviously they will need time to assemble a roster, coaching and support staff for their entry into the NRL in 2028.

From 2026 perhaps at least?

 

[Perth Red]

I wonder from when PNG will be allowed to sign players, coaches and support staff. Obviously they will need time to assemble a roster, coaching and support staff for their entry into the NRL in 2028.

From 2026 perhaps at least?

Murmurs the expansion clubs may be able to sign players 12 months before other clubs, but seems to have been caboshed by the other clubs.

Players' union boss Clint Newton has told AAP he is open to working with the NRL and clubs to create exemptions for expansion clubs, to help them build competitive rosters.
But V'landys was adamant on Thursday the November 1 rule would work for PNG, and would not prevent them from forming a competitive team.
"Absolutely (it will be enough time)," V'landys said.


Players’ union boss Clint Newton said the NRL should consider amending contracting rules for expansion clubs in a bid to prevent issues around recruitment.
NRL rules prohibit clubs from approaching contracted players until the final year of their deal, meaning PNG would have to wait until November 2026 to start any negotiations.

Albo ‘delighted’ as NRL unveils historic PNG expansion team

Two Prime Ministers have shaken hands to bring the $600m creation to life, but some questions linger.

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