PNG's back.

[Wb1234]

I knew you were an ignorant dickhead, but thinking that the PMs aim is to create 'junior pathways' for Rugby League is AFL fan levels of stupid

Well under the current pm it is
lol

 

[Canard]

Well under the current pm it is
lol

He couldn't give two f**ks about RL. This is geo- political posturing.

And with Trump gutting funding to USAid (Aid stands for Assisting International Development in this case) they Yanks aren't pitching in anymore either.

 

[John bird]

That's the question so many have been asking, why have very few League players from PNG played in the NRL? Is having their own NRL club suddenly going to change that?

Yes because a big part of the 30 man squad will have to be made up of kumuls.

 

[Wb1234]

He couldn't give two f**ks about RL. This is geo- political posturing.

And with Trump gutting funding to USAid (Aid stands for Assisting International Development in this case) they Yanks aren't pitching in anymore either.

He’s a regular at Souths games

Probably goes to more games than you lol

 

[Det.Wojciehowicz]

Claiming Albo doesn't care about League is demonstrably false. He is a genuine Bunnies fan and doesn't just claim to be one to gain votes.

 

[greg]

Claiming Albo doesn't care about League is demonstrably false. He is a genuine Bunnies fan and doesn't just claim to be one to gain votes.

 

[Canard]

Claiming Albo doesn't care about League is demonstrably false. He is a genuine Bunnies fan and doesn't just claim to be one to gain votes.

He isn't giving money to the PNG for Rugby League, it's purely for geopolitics.

Or do you genuinely believe that Albo has a vision for a Development officer on every corner in PNG?

 

[Det.Wojciehowicz]

He isn't giving money to the PNG for Rugby League, it's purely for geopolitics.

Or do you genuinely believe that Albo has a vision for a Development officer on every corner in PNG?

I'm not referring to PNG, just the fact that he is a genuine League fan. My cousin has been friends with him for more than 40 years and I can assure you he truly loves Rugby League.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Have souffs changed colours?

 

[Det.Wojciehowicz]

Wow! Some people truly revel in their stupidity.

 

[Canard]

I'm not referring to PNG, just the fact that he is a genuine League fan. My cousin has been friends with him for more than 40 years and I can assure you he truly loves Rugby League.

So you are not referring to PNG which was the topic of discussion in the PNG thread?

 

[Det.Wojciehowicz]

So you are not referring to PNG which was the topic of discussion in the PNG thread?

Yep, someone else made the claim about Albo so I was answering that.

 

[bazza]

That's the question so many have been asking, why have very few League players from PNG played in the NRL? Is having their own NRL club suddenly going to change that?

I reckon it may be due to visa issues especially compared to NZ
If a 15 year old kid in NZ is a good prospect he can move to Australia easily to get into an NRL clubs program - either with help from the NRL club or from his own family. Would be hundreds of examples of this in the last 20 years or so. This is due to NZ being able to move freely between Oz and NZ

If you are in PNG you would need some sort of visa to come to Australia and probably too much hassle for NRL clubs (who won't have any recruiters over there anyway). I note that there are a few PNG players in the school system who I assume are maybe from wealthier families who can afford to send their kids to Australia for high school.

 

[Perth Red]

I reckon it may be due to visa issues especially compared to NZ
If a 15 year old kid in NZ is a good prospect he can move to Australia easily to get into an NRL clubs program - either with help from the NRL club or from his own family. Would be hundreds of examples of this in the last 20 years or so. This is due to NZ being able to move freely between Oz and NZ

If you are in PNG you would need some sort of visa to come to Australia and probably too much hassle for NRL clubs (who won't have any recruiters over there anyway). I note that there are a few PNG players in the school system who I assume are maybe from wealthier families who can afford to send their kids to Australia for high school.

yeh it is an issue for kids. Hull KR want to bring 3 PNG teens over every year but they have been thwarted so far in doing it by the UK Govt. Unless kids are getting into the top systems at 16-18 the chances of them developing to NRL standard are very slim. If we can build world class jnr programs in PNG, and WA, that match NRL clubs systems there is no reason at all that payers wont get developed. Take 5000 kids anywhere in the world and put them in the right systems and you will see top grade players emerge.

 

[Wb1234]

yeh it is an issue for kids. Hull KR want to bring 3 PNG teens over every year but they have been thwarted so far in doing it by the UK Govt. Unless kids are getting into the top systems at 16-18 the chances of them developing to NRL standard are very slim. If we can build world class jnr programs in PNG, and WA, that match NRL clubs systems there is no reason at all that payers wont get developed. Take 5000 kids anywhere in the world and put them in the right systems and you will see top grade players emerge.

Did someone steal your account bc this doesn’t sound like you at all

 

[Perth Red]

Did someone steal your account bc this doesn’t sound like you at all

I have my moments. Though when you agree with something Ive posted I have to double check it

Like I said as long as you have 3000-5000 jnrs playing the game there will be enough cream to pick out the top 20 every year. Then it just comes down to quality of coaching, training, nutrition, and all the other stuff that goes into turning a 16 year old into an NRL player.

Of course physical attributes of the population play a big part as well, hence why so many Maoris and Islanders make it in RL. Helps if your 185cms, 100kg and fast at 18!

 

[Wb1234]

I have my moments. Though when you agree with something Ive posted I have to double check it

Like I said as long as you have 3000-5000 jnrs playing the game there will be enough cream to pick out the top 20 every year. Then it just comes down to quality of coaching, training, nutrition, and all the other stuff that goes into turning a 16 year old into an NRL player.

Of course physical attributes of the population play a big part as well, hence why so many Maoris and Islanders make it in RL. Helps if your 185cms, 100kg and fast at 18!

PNG has millions of kids to pick from

And the money that is being thrown at them is serious and they are taking a long term approach

I’m not fussed if the nrl side doesn’t win comps which they won’t. But the juniors will benefit the game as a whole not just png

And then you have the benefits of a stronger int comp

Everyone is focused on the nrl without thinking what png and nz2 can do for international rugby league

 

[bazza]

yeh it is an issue for kids. Hull KR want to bring 3 PNG teens over every year but they have been thwarted so far in doing it by the UK Govt. Unless kids are getting into the top systems at 16-18 the chances of them developing to NRL standard are very slim. If we can build world class jnr programs in PNG, and WA, that match NRL clubs systems there is no reason at all that payers wont get developed. Take 5000 kids anywhere in the world and put them in the right systems and you will see top grade players emerge.

I suppose the best thing for PNG to get more NRL players would be to have a national level U16/18/20 competition for the best players with quality coaches. Not sure if the logistics, finance and skills are currently there

Short term would be to get 1-2 PNG players into each NRL clubs U16 or equivalent junior program with a scholarship to do year 11-12 at an Australian high school and/or university. At best you get some NRL players at worst you have some PNG people with a higher education

 

[Perth Red]

I suppose the best thing for PNG to get more NRL players would be to have a national level U16/18/20 competition for the best players with quality coaches. Not sure if the logistics, finance and skills are currently there

Short term would be to get 1-2 PNG players into each NRL clubs U16 or equivalent junior program with a scholarship to do year 11-12 at an Australian high school and/or university. At best you get some NRL players at worst you have some PNG people with a higher education

From what I've seen it starts at a young age. probably 7 or 8 and having your amateur club coaches well trained in basic skill development. Then as kids get into 12-15 they need to be filtered into academy type set ups for the most talented, then at 15+ they need to be in elite programs and playing in comps against the other best kids in the country. Retaining kids as they hot their early teens is also a key issue, a lot of talent gets lost at that age as they move to try other sports or find girls and other distractions. End of day ist a pyramid witht he fatter the base the more cream coming to the top, alongside the quality of development pathways.
Most clubs have Jnr bases around 3000-5000. Each club produces probably around 2-3 players coming into the first 30 a year out of those bases. Maybe 1 or 2 of those will go on to represent their club or another one.
IF PNG can get its jnr amatuer clubs and comps improved (I mean some of them arent playing in boots!) and then have the scouting to pick the best kids and bring them into elite systems at those early teens then they will certainly have the base to produce a number of first graders there is no doubt.

The PNG club has 3 years to get these systems happening or rely on trying to get reserve graders up to NRL standard, or importing a squad. Its not very long. If they take the cream of 13-15 year olds now then its 2033-36 when we are likely to see them make first grade for the PNG club.