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Put up or shut up, ASADA.

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Vin Fizz

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Yeah...lets come out and start talking about the issue in the media again. I mean it worked wonderfully well the first time. FMD these rses are trying to goad the players into talking. I see Ms Wilson has written an unusually contrite piece of shit today. Thinks we are shooting the messenger. She, and the other dickhead Kent claim they are messengers but then wind opinion and comment into the so called messages so they can claim innocence later on. They can control the agenda by what they run and they farggen know it. If they want to be messengers then dot points with facts thanks and no crystal ball stuff.
 
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Vin Fizz

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fed up with the bitchin of Rebecca wilson dont read her crap. noone else gives a shit
True in some ways but very ignorant in others Jacko. I reckon she wrote todays article aimed squarely at her detractors, many of whom are on here.
 

Special K

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She's the one keeping it alive. Along with a few of her friends but every day it's her retelling the same dribble.

Why do you guys even read it? Honestly. Half this forum have better "sources" than she does(no really!)
 

The Popper

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Our good friends at the Tele have now upped the ante. They say that two of our players went chasing Danks after he left to get some more goodies, and continued to take them. Who knows? But it's certainly a vendetta against our club (and ONLY our club despite other clubs longer involvement) by these people. :(
 

carcharias

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What happened to the 100's?

Let her write it
Nobody is reading anymore.

It is now almost June, if they had any real evidence they would
have used it by now.

A couple of blokes using peptides on the sly makes this whole shit fight comical.

Maybe they trying to score some of Jane Fondas wrinkle cream?
 

carinashark

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What sh@#$ me about the Tele is the way they make a headline based on two sentences then repeat pretty much all the other crap they have printed.
The way i see it from what I have heard is that ASADA do not have the resourses to continue the investigation and need big 'rollovers' by AFL/NRL players and they targeted the Sharks as a 'soft' target. We stay tough and fix the Dank stuff in house and they can F&%$# off back to Canberra. I would try to get Giveny back ( if he will) first up and then ask the others back , if they will.
 

spider

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...was-axed-by-club/story-fni3gol8-1226645988397

Ex Sharks doctor claims two Cronulla players contacted Stephen Dank for supplements after Dank was axed by club


TWO Cronulla players allegedly continued to contact sports scientist Stephen Dank for supplements after the club axed his role in 2011.

A statement by sacked Sharks doctor David Givney alleges the duo privately contacted Dank and 'used his various supplements on occasions.'

Givney was the doctor who raised concerns about Dank and his offsider Darren "The Gazelle" Hibbert allegedly providing supplements to the club for 11 weeks in 2011.

In the statement, which forms part of an independent document detailing the club's use of injections, tablets and peptide creams, Givney claims: "It was my thought that this was the end of the drama, but have since discovered that some players (names redacted) continued to privately have contact with Steve Dank and had subsequently used his various supplements on occasions."

Givney's statement is now in the possession of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and the NRL, and is dated February 13, 2013.

It is understood ex-Cronulla staff members have also revealed one player called Hibbert "the mechanic".

Hibbert has been alleged to be responsible for administering some of the four rounds of injections Cronulla players were given in 2011.

On the back of an independent document stating players were injected in the away dressing room at Shark Park, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt Cronulla players were also administered with injections in two corporate boxes at Shark Park and inside a kitchenette at the club.

Dank and Hibbert have repeatedly denied giving players banned substances.

Givney's statement does not suggest the substances were banned.

One of the players mentioned by Givney last night denied having any independent contact with Dank.

A lawyer for "various Cronulla players" denied any players had ongoing contact with Dank "for the purposes of obtaining prohibited substances".

Givney's statement says his growing discomfort at the use of supplements and Cronulla's association with Dank had become a "sore point" between Givney and club trainer Trent Elkin.

Givney recounts successfully urging coach Shane Flanagan to end contact with Dank after discovering some players using equine drugs.

"Since that time I have been told by Trent (Elkin) that he thought Dank was keeping me informed at all stages. In fact I had no contact with him at all," Givney writes. "It is worth noting that at no stage has any player produced a positive result to any banned substance from the ... tests that we've done."
 

spider

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Wasn't sure if Givneys statement had been posted.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/dr-david-givneys-statement/story-fni2flhh-1226645993731

Doctor David Givney’s statement dated 13/2/2013:

"This is a brief recollection, as best I can remember, of the events that took place early in NRL season 2011 regarding the use of supplements and our association with Steve Dank.

"I first should note that for some years my disinterest in various supplements and ‘alternate’ therapies had become a sore point between myself and Trent Elkin.

"He felt that we needed to embrace the new technologies more to be sure we weren't at any disadvantage compared to other clubs.

"During the early rounds I noticed a new face in the dressing room background. It was mentioned that he was assisting Trent with the new GPS system that the club was introducing.

"Over the next few rounds it was clear that this man, who I was told was a `sports scientist' was also assisting in the preparation of the pre and post game hydration preparations and supplements.

"I was never actually introduced to the man but was told it was Steve Dank. I was told he was just assisting and was not a paid employee of the Sharks.

"About this time Tony Bagnall informed me that Dank was preparing his `own' supplements for the players, so he was asked, through Trent, to provide an exact list of ingredients. This arrived via physio Konrad Schultz a week or two later and showed no substances on the ASADA banned list.

"When we played Manly at home I was approached after the game by the Manly medico Dr Paul Bloomfield who told he had previous dealings with Dank. His advice was to `get rid of him' as soon as possible.

"I attempted to do a bit of investigating of my own and found that Dank had worked at a number of clubs and had seemed to have been asked to leave many of them. I had a number of conversations with Craig Catterick (Parramatta trainer) and Dr Martin Raftery (ex St George) who both expressed their concerns. I told Shane Flanagan of these early concerns and he said he would follow up himself with friends at those clubs.

"Not long after Isaac Gordon presented with significant bruising after no trauma. (I took photos and still have these in my possession).

"I was most concerned and said we needed to do some blood tests. ``Not more needles!'' he said. (!!!) When I inquired as to which needles he was talking about he said that a number of players had been injected with `supplements' by a colleague of Dank's.

"This information was conveyed to Darren Mooney and Shane who informed Trent that no more injections were to be done and a meeting was organised to discuss the situation.

"The meeting was held at the Leagues Club and attended by myself, Darren, Konrad, Trent and Steve Dank. This was the first occasion that I was actually introduced to him. The meeting was not overly helpful _ I requested that all injections and `homemade' supplements be stopped but Trent became quite aggressive, stating that he "needed a doctor who was on the cutting edge, not just someone who turned up on game day.

"At the end of the meeting I tendered my resignation to Darren because I wasn't prepared to have someone who was totally unaccountable provide substances to our players without my knowledge. I was later contacted by Shane who said it was agreed the supplements would cease.

"Over the following week it was reported to me by Konrad that the players were given more of Dank's needles and supplements and when I quizzed some players, they said they were told `not to tell Doc'. It was at this time that Isaac Gordon showed me a photo of a supplement he'd been given which clearly stated `FOR EQUINE USE ONLY'. Obviously I hit the roof and informed Shane, who agreed that this was the last straw, and Dank's services ceased the next morning.

"Since that time I have been told by Trent that he thought Dank was keeping me informed at all stages. In fact I had no contact with him at all.

"It was my thought that this was the end of the drama, but have since discovered that some players, notably (NAME REDACTED) and (NAME REDACTED) continued to privately have contact with Steve Dank and had subsequently used his various supplements on occasions.

It is worth noting that at no stage has any player produced a positive result to any banned substance from the multitude of ASADA tests that we've done."
 
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