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Quade

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I would love to see Link as coach but that won't happen for another year or so.

Deans has a pass mark.

Wallabies ranked number 2 in the world
Came 3rd in the World Cup
Beat Wales 3-0
Beat South Africa 5 out of the last 6 times they've met.
Beaten Argentina at home.

On the downside, the Wallabies have lost to both Scotland and Samoa at home.

I really don't think the coach is the issue. It's the mental fragility of the players that has let us down. The silly kicks and dumb game plan. Dean's doesn't tell Beale and Cooper to chip kick while in their 22. Then you can look at the injuries. A massive toll. Would NZ have been unbeaten in the RC if they had lost a complete team of players from their roster? Probably not.
I agree with most of that, though we are now number 3. Also, the AB's have ridiculous depth in all positions. They could fieled 2 teams (maybe 3) in the RWC and concieveably go through undefeated. Deans (just) gets a pass mark but we should have the best available coach at the helm. He isn't that person. As Hooch said - we should be making plans for the next RWC and if Deans isn't a part of those plans, then he should go now.
 

Thomas

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I agree with most of that, though we are now number 3. Also, the AB's have ridiculous depth in all positions. They could fieled 2 teams (maybe 3) in the RWC and concieveably go through undefeated. Deans (just) gets a pass mark but we should have the best available coach at the helm. He isn't that person. As Hooch said - we should be making plans for the next RWC and if Deans isn't a part of those plans, then he should go now.

No, beating Argentina at home put the Wallabies up to 2.

http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html
 

Timbo

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Cooper to quit Australian rugby: reports

Updated 22 minutes ago

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-19/quade-cooper-at-aru-headquartersjpg/4380490

Quade Cooper is believed to be on the brink of quitting Australian rugby after being offered only an incentive-based contract by the ARU.
Three weeks after being fined $40,000 and apologising for his criticism of the ARU, the sidelined Wallabies playmaker has received an offer believed to be well below what he and his representatives expected.
Cooper's manager Khoder Nasser was reached by Grandstand but gave no comment, only saying there would be a press conference to announce Cooper's future "early next week".
The fly half has already signed a three-year deal with Queensland and appeared keen to remain in Australia and win back his Test jersey, but the small top-up offer again puts his future in the code in doubt.
A year ago, Cooper received one of the biggest contracts the ARU handed out when he re-signed for 12 months after leading the Queensland Reds to the Super Rugby title through both his smarts and skill.
Now the boot is well and truly on the other foot for the talented five-eighth.
His stocks nosedived significantly when he criticised the Wallabies culture as toxic in September following a disappointing performance against Argentina.
His contrite apology following the code-of-conduct hearing where he copped a $60,000 fine, including $20,000 that was suspended, and a suspended playing ban hasn't guaranteed he'll play for the Wallabies under Robbie Deans next year.
The ARU's negotiation team, headed by high-performance manager David Nucifora, has been looking to cut total player payments for the past 12 months and seem to be setting an example with the Cooper situation.
The 38-Test back had a much-improved ARU offer on the table from July to September which went unsigned.
Now, even if he wanted to play overseas in Europe or Japan, he could not start a full-time offer until August at the earliest when the northern season starts.
Australia's 20-14 win over England at Twickenham on the weekend has strengthened Deans's shaky position as coach heading into next year's British and Irish Lions series.
For Cooper to receive any financial gain from the ARU under its current offer, he will need to be selected by the New Zealand-born coach and cement himself in the Test team again.
While the ARU and Cooper's camp would not comment on Monday, the Queensland Rugby Union reiterated it is confident he will honour his new contract with the Reds.
But to play Super Rugby in 2013, Cooper must sign some form of ARU documentation otherwise he will not be registered for Queensland.
Deans's man management has been identified as one of his weaknesses as Wallabies coach, but bringing an in-form Cooper successfully back into the fold could offer a win-win for both men.
First, though, Cooper must sign with the ARU.
ABC/AAP


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-...tralian-rugby3a-reports/4380486?section=sport




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I wish he'd just bugger off and be done with it. Can't tackle, has a whinge every time things don't go exactly his way. You're not bigger than the game Quade and I'm sick and tired of you telling us you are.


Barnes doesn't have his attacking flare, but is a much better defender and organizer, and has a superior kicking game. I'd rather him in the 10 any day of the week.


Just leave Quade. See how well you go in Japan or in the NRL without everyone telling you how awesome you are every day. We'll be better off without you.
 

Twizzle

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he'll follow the money imo and there is more money in European Rugby than there is here in League,

he'd have to learn how to tackle to play league and surely no one will be throwing big dollars at him from league right now
 

ozbash

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he'll follow the money imo and there is more money in European Rugby than there is here in League,

he'd have to learn how to tackle to play league and surely no one will be throwing big dollars at him from league right now

Dont know about Euro rugby, he has a reputation and would probably earn more in oz..

Khoder eh, says it all..
 

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