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Queensland steal 4 more players!!!

Bluebags1908

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Contradictory much? You can accept a bloke playing for a place his parents lived but not a bloke playing for the country HE lives in. Genius.

Yes, that's right - because blood is thicker than water. And in the instance of these born and raised Kiwis that are magically 'Aussies' it is especially true if you have lived in your mother country for longer than you have in Australia. How can you be born to Kiwi parents, grow up and live most of your life there, and magically after 3 years or whatever living in Australia they are 'Aussies'? What a joke! If I go and live in Japan for 15 years I might learn to love Japan but it doesn't make me Japanese.

As for Nightingale and other heritage players, where your parents are from means a great deal more than where you "live". Because it is where my BLOOD is from and it means something more because it is my family, my genetics, and my heritage.
 
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Yes, that's right - because blood is thicker than water. And in the instance of these born and raised Kiwis that are magically 'Aussies' it is especially true if you have lived in your mother country for longer than you have in Australia. How can you be born to Kiwi parents, grow up and live most of your life there, and magically after 3 years or whatever living in Australia they are 'Aussies'? What a joke! If I go and live in Japan for 15 years I might learn to love Japan but it doesn't make me Japanese.

As for Nightingale and other heritage players, where your parents are from means a great deal more than where you "live". Because it is where my BLOOD is from and it means something more because it is my family, my genetics, and my heritage.
You don't know if you're coming or going. On one hand Petero is okay because he moved here as a 3yo. So his blood obviously isn't as important. And on another hand you seem to think a player born and bred here should play for a country he may have never been to. If blood is so important I guess only Aboriginal people can play for Australia, or are they out too because they migrated here tens of thousands of years ago? If you're saying no one from another country can come to Australia and consider themselves Australian then I'm afraid Pauline Hanson that you are going to have a lot of talking to do to get yourself out of that. But while we're at it, name one player who has EVER played for Australia having only lived here for 3 years. I can guarantee you you won't come up with any. And worst of all you're imposing your idea of identity on other people. If only you understood how ironic this is. Someone telling another person what THEIR identity is and should be.
 

hutch

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The all mighty dollar no other reason. If Teo, Uate, McGuire etc considered themselves Australian they wouldn't of taken the field for another country. How many here would play for another country?? I wouldn't

If they same money was offered for a fijian international as a SOO player Uate doesn't switch.

Agree about teo and uate but maguire is a different scenario. The ONLY reason he played for Samoa is because he wasn't yet good enough for qld and aus. He publicly stated at the time that he would play to honour his mum and he is a few good years off making qld and aus. Change the rules and we can stop this farce, you simply shouldn't be allowed to play for more than one country! His playing for Samoa is a joke to our sport when they should of picked someone who would play for them for their career but are more interested in a quick fix!

And the hunt argument has been done to death on here, but IMO there is nothing wrong with his allegiance to Australia. He moved here as an immigrant aged 11, went through the grades in rugby league and will live here the rest of his life. He chose Australia, he has every right to play for Australia and to be an Australian. Plenty go the other way (foran, cayless etc), he made his choice and stuck to it.
 

deluded pom?

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Agree about teo and uate but maguire is a different scenario. The ONLY reason he played for Samoa is because he wasn't yet good enough for qld and aus.


And therein lies the problem. Players are seeing the PI nations as second best to Australia. A fallback if they are not good enough to be a Kangaroo but also a way of playing international RL if they aren't quite good enough for the green and gold yet. Oh, and be careful Bluebags. You're on the brink of being called a racist by ECT. Just tell him you can't be a racist because you have a black mate. That always shuts him up. ;-)
 
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Actually it just proves what a racist you are. But the poms still can't see that. That's the thing about being a bigot, they generally don't realise they are. Which is why poms have been denying the Australian identity of so many Australian players like Civoniceva for years and years. Now that they are desperately buying players like Chase and Heighington to play for them because they're not good enough to play for their home countries the poms are in quite a bind. They don't know what to think. I guess at least Heighington is white. They can probably stomach that.
 
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You lot started this years ago and it still goes on, but now the boot is on the other foot and you're trying to squirm out of all the ignorant bullshit about Australia "stealing" Polynesians and Melanesians, even though every single player who has played for Australia is an ARL junior, in light of the fact that Ingerlund is now ringing in ARL and NZRL juniors. Face the facts. You've always been wrong and now you lot look like idiots.
 

roughyedspud

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You lot started this years ago and it still goes on, but now the boot is on the other foot and you're trying to squirm out of all the ignorant bullshit about Australia "stealing" Polynesians and Melanesians, even though every single player who has played for Australia is an ARL junior, in light of the fact that Ingerlund is now ringing in ARL and NZRL juniors. Face the facts. You've always been wrong and now you lot look like idiots.

lmao.....if you say so kermit..


its about time you faced the facts...you are the biggest prat in world RL and everyone on every one of the major RL forums knows that when you start to lose a argument you resort to claims of racism...highlighting just how sad and pathetic you are......


now please you away cos your making us all dumber by posting here.
 

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