Question for Queensland fans!

[Broncomum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8upGTJDcA&feature=related

Watching this, at 50 seconds in, you see a good view from behind the line. Farah definitely changes his stride to play at the ball with his foot; that is NOT a natural step or change of direction. It's actually a potential disaster for injury if not careful.

So he did play at the ball.
Keep watching, 1:22, 1:40 & 1:50 you see the space between ball & hand/arm once the foot dislodges the ball. Next contact with the ball is a try.

 

[Broncomum]

Subsequently the ball rebounded off Inglis's arm.

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I don't think it did come off his arm. ^^ see above.

 

[Eels Dude]

It was a try.

Its no different to a player stripping the ball. They play at it, its fair game, who ever land on it scores.

In order for a ball to be stripped, the player needs to have control of it in the first place. Inglis was still in the process of getting a hold on the ball when it came into contact with Farah's boot. If he had full control of it it wouldn't have come out so easily.

 

[HowHigh]

I love how QLDers actually believe it was a fair decision

If it was the other way around they'd be crying conspiracy about trying to give nsw a win becuase they've lost the last 6

 

[Mr Fourex]

I don't think it did come off his arm. ^^ see above.

...at around the 1.04 mark I thought it rolled up his forearm

 

[Mr Fourex]

I love how QLDers actually believe it was a fair decision

I love how the OP and other NSW fanbots will congratulate a QLD'rs post if they have the same doubts as them that it was a no try

....and everyone who disagrees, is an idiot.

 

[Broncomum]

...at around the 1.04 mark I thought it rolled up his forearm

From all angles, I can't see contact with the arm. I see the ball spinning momentarily in one spot, caused by the spin the foot put on it, then it spins off forward away from Inglis. The spin created by the shoe gives a topspin effect on the ball.
If it was in contact with his arm, instinct would see Inglis' hands at least momentarily move upwards to the ball, but they don't.

 

[hellteam]

Farah played at it for sure. He knew where the ball was and he put his foot there to dislodge it.

Inglis did knock it on after that when it hit his arm though

 

[cornerposter]

sounds like there's plenty of doubt. Benefit goes with the attacking team - game over.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Does Bill Harrigon's say on the try mean nothing?

"I will break it down, Greg Inglis had possession of the ball and was trying to score a try. Robbie Farah has decided, 'I need to do something to prevent the try' and he has changed his gait and dislodged the ball with his leg.

"When it's dislodged it has come off the forearm of Greg Inglis but it is a rebound not a knock on because he didn't play at the ball.
"The ball was laying on the ground and he (Inglis) put his hands on the ball and that's the reason it was a try."

Clear as crystal to me.

 

[Eels Dude]

People bringing up Bill Harrigan's opinion as evidence as to why it was a legitimate try... :lol:
He has a proven history of defending his refs when they make bad calls.

Now let's now ask Schapelle Corby whether smuggled drugs into Bali again...

 

[Eels Dude]

sounds like there's plenty of doubt. Benefit goes with the attacking team - game over.

Plenty of doubt = No try

Some doubt = Try

 

[Zoidberg]

I love how QLDers actually believe it was a fair decision

If it was the other way around they'd be crying conspiracy about trying to give nsw a win becuase they've lost the last 6

And if it was the other way around you'd be saying it was a try!

 

[Canard]

People bringing up Bill Harrigan's opinion as evidence as to why it was a legitimate try... :lol:
He has a proven history of defending his refs when they make bad calls.

Funny how until Ricky Stuart was called out on a lie, that Blues fans were using "Harrigan said it wasn't a try" as one of their main arguments.

 

[icewind]

I love how QLDers actually believe it was a fair decision

I love how NSWers generalize that Qlders believe it was a fair decision.

I don't think it was a try, i think it was a knock on. Whether Farah played at it, well the video ref ruled he did. I have no problem with that. Whether that was dangerous or not.... well I suppose change R Farah to B Slater and I would be intrigued to see what the opinion of fans would be on that one. But IMO I think it was a knock on and I wouldn't have blown up if it was ruled knock on 20m tap or maybe a Qld penalty

Then again you're in Penalty try area there and that makes things complicated.

We still would have won, though.


If you really want an example of a more obvious knock on leading to a try, think Game III 2006, NSW leading 8-0, Brett Finch puts up a bomb. Hilarity ensues. Of course that didn't decide the game either. Qld came back from behind. Again.

 

[Hutty1986]

We should have offered a free tat/case for everyone conversion/penalty Toddy kicked

 

[Bulldog Force]

This morning on the news, Bill Harrigan said that what happened was that Farah played at the ball with his foot and Inglis didn't knock on because he didn't play at it, it was a deflection. Doesn't that kind of sound redundant? How can they say Farah played at the ball with his foot, then say that Inglis didn't play at it with his hand?

 

[Karl]

BF - its easy when you think about it.

GI had a ball kicked into him. It rebounded off him without him playing at it because he could not possibly have played at it as it came off Farah's boot and hit him pretty much instantaneously. The fact that he had the ball and was trying to ground it BEFORE farah kicked it loose and dislodged it is irrelevant. The impact with GI's forearm was part of the act of dislodging the ball. Once dislodged the ball was free and live and GI grounded it.

Simple.

 

[Hutty1986]

Karl, are you actually Hollywood?

 

[betcats]

BF - its easy when you think about it.

GI had a ball kicked into him. It rebounded off him without him playing at it because he could not possibly have played at it as it came off Farah's boot and hit him pretty much instantaneously. The fact that he had the ball and was trying to ground it BEFORE farah kicked it loose and dislodged it is irrelevant. The impact with GI's forearm was part of the act of dislodging the ball. Once dislodged the ball was free and live and GI grounded it.

Simple.

If you put Cecchin on for game two i'll find out were you live hollywood!