R 'n' B ...

[OVP]

Rhythm and Blues Apparently. Yet there is zero Rhythm and even less Blues in their crap style of music. Why are these zombies allowed to exist ? ;-):lol:

 

[sydraider]

Maybe due to the fact there are plenty of zombies out there who keep buying the music :lol:

 

[LESStar58]

Old r&b i can dig and by old r&b i mean guys like otis, sam, stevie, marvin, the temptations, the 4 tops etc.

Unfortunately r+b is a term coined by industry types to label people of african-american or islander descent who can sing. it also applies to white girls in little shorts in bling who can sing as well.

If you black and you can sing you are automatically labelled an R&B artist. No racism intended on my behalf but thats just how I see it...

 

[hineyrulz]

Old r&b i can dig and by old r&b i mean guys like otis, sam, stevie, marvin, the temptations, the 4 tops etc.

Unfortunately r+b is a term coined by industry types to label people of african-american or islander descent who can sing. it also applies to white girls in little shorts in bling who can sing as well.

If you black and you can sing you are automatically labelled an R&B artist. No racism intended on my behalf but thats just how I see it...

agree 100% that not racist it's true.BTW the old r&b guy's could actually sing and play instruments.

 

[Twizzle]

Rhythm and Blues Apparently. Yet there is zero Rhythm and even less Blues in their crap style of music. Why are these zombies allowed to exist ? ;-):lol:

I agree

I dont get the blues thng, there is no blues in R&B

 

[Munky]

A black person singing pop is R 'n' B. Such a disgrace to the likes of B.B King.

Out of curiousity can Stevie Ray Vaughn be considered R'n'B? He played rhythm and he played blues.

 

[LESStar58]

agree 100% that not racist it's true.BTW the old r&b guy's could actually sing and play instruments.

The number of times people have played the "thats racist" card on me is unbeleivable. One of the girls at work like all the new stuff and she calls it R&B and I just say "its not R&B. just because they are black and have some sort of vocal ability doesn't make em R&B. R&B is a legitimate musical term from the 20s-60s/70s that was raped and pillaged by people who sing about how many biatches they've f**ked and how many SUVs they drive!"

"Thats racist Luke"

"If that makes me racist so be it"

I mean, I like "black" music. Old R&B/jazz/blues/soul/reggae when done well is good. But these people who try to reinvent it piss me off.They need to call it something else.... it needs to have it's own genre/label.... urban would be the best way to put it....

Sam Cooke would be turning in his grave if he heard what was being passed off as "R&B" these days....

 

[hillbillyjazzer1954]

I whole heartedly and enthusiastically agree with everything in this thread so far......well said gents

the crap they are passing off as RnB nowadays is pitiful and disgusting, and a huge slap in the face to the innovators of this beautiful form of music

 

[hineyrulz]

The number of times people have played the "thats racist" card on me is unbeleivable. One of the girls at work like all the new stuff and she calls it R&B and I just say "its not R&B. just because they are black and have some sort of vocal ability doesn't make em R&B. R&B is a legitimate musical term from the 20s-60s/70s that was raped and pillaged by people who sing about how many biatches they've f**ked and how many SUVs they drive!"

"Thats racist Luke"

"If that makes me racist so be it"

I mean, I like "black" music. Old R&B/jazz/blues/soul/reggae when done well is good. But these people who try to reinvent it piss me off.They need to call it something else.... it needs to have it's own genre/label.... urban would be the best way to put it....

Sam Cooke would be turning in his grave if he heard what was being passed off as "R&B" these days....

i get told the same thing,f**k em it's a disgrace it's even passed of as music let alone R&B.

 

[OVP]

A black person singing pop is R 'n' B. Such a disgrace to the likes of B.B King.

Out of curiousity can Stevie Ray Vaughn be considered R'n'B? He played rhythm and he played blues.

He is one of The Kings of REAL R 'n' B. However some insidious inside movement of crap artists seems to have taken hold over the music industry these days ;-)

I call them .....





TV executives looking for a quick buck from a DUMB audience !!

 

[donkey|rope]

R&B = Rhythm & Blues. Rhythm & Blues = Rock & Roll, but when middle (see. white) America commandeered it, they called it Rock & Roll. Then R&B became a synonym for Black music, with all 'Black" genres like Soul, Gospel, Funk, Disco etc all becoming enveloped in it. R&B as we know it today is just an amalgamation of blue-eyed Pop and a late 80's and early 90's style called New Jack Swing that combined elements of Hip-Hop with various “R&B” genres.

 

[Southernsaint]

I don’t call it R n B, I call it Click n Sway…

If you’ve seen any of their videos you’ll know what I mean…

 

[Thomo.]

good point OVP. very good point. lost its way

 

[miccle]

I never call it RnB and will NEVER, EVER acknowledge it. It's rap, or pop music.

R'n'B is one of my favourite styles of music in the entire world, from the greats like B.B. King and early Clapton right through to the artists still taking inspiration from it today.

The MTV sh*te has somehow stolen the name, computerised beats and ZERO blues involved. Blergh.

 

[Mad Dogg]

The way I see it, R&B and RnB are two entirely different things. R&B is the old style that actually stands for Rhythm & Blues, while RnB is the relatively new style where it's just simply RnB without the letters standing for anything in particular. Confusing, but that's how I've always look at it.

Pop has basically swallowed RnB up. A decade ago there used to be a fairly obvious difference between them, but as pop has changed it's been heading inexorably closer and closer to RnB. It was a deliberate move by the record companies as RnB was seen as 'cool', so all the pop singers were 'encouraged' to head in that direction. The likes of Britney and Christina in particular were extremely obvious in trying to change their image. Add that to the fact that, as mentioned by others, any black pop singers are automatically seen as RnB, and the lines between the two are blurring.

R&B is a legitimate musical term from the 20s-60s/70s that was raped and pillaged by people who sing about how many biatches they've f**ked and how many SUVs they drive!"

That's rap, not RnB. Although in saying that, rap is also moving closer to RnB as it's looking for more commercial success.