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R8 team v Eels: Nightingale fullback, Tagive winger

Breathingfire

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What exactly did Soward say and when?
Bennett chose Nightingale for fullback; now I know that he's clueless but he may even (on rare occasion) have better judgement than you. Why not wait and see?

You've missed the point. Im not debating whether he can play fullback. He will make a good fist of it and not let anyone down (as i mentioned earlier). What i am debating is-

1. the reason he was picked at fullback, which i see as Bennett going with a safe option. Stanley is untried at fullback and throwing a young player into that position with no previous experience can be dangerous. Nightingale is obviously safe under the highball etc.

2. Nightingales ball playing ability. It just doesn't feel right. Substituting Boyd with a player in the mould of Nightingale just doesn't feel right. Can you really see Nightingale running perfect lines and throwing perfect passes left and right, or creating something out of nothing? I can see him running around in circles and throwing lollipops. Stanley has the creativity and natural ball playing ability to be 100 times more effective in that position. Nightingale is one of the great wingers of the game and takes alot of pressure of our forwards. That is his strength. Morris was another who was tried at fullback and we all saw how that went. Some players are just specialist wingers.

3. why every time something is mentioned about the fullback position, you start carrying on about what a superstar fullback Nightingale is. And i fail to see it. I do however understand that this is just a difference of opinion and that is ok. It just appears that you are a bit obsessed with this idea of nightingale at fullback and Nightingale is this and nightingale is that. It just seems a bit starry eyed, thats all. But i could be wrong. I don't know you so apologies if im wrong.

And yes you are quite right. I should just wait and see. Hopefully Nighty puts egg on my face.
 
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Divine

Bench
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He'll be able to pop up where he pleases in attack and have an offload at the end of it. Boyd has his own style and Nightingale definitely has his.
 

Cagey Mac

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You've missed the point. Im not debating whether he can play fullback. He will make a good fist of it and not let anyone down (as i mentioned earlier). What i am debating is-

1. the reason he was picked at fullback, which i see as Bennett going with a safe option. Stanley is untried at fullback and throwing a young player into that position with no previous experience can be dangerous. Nightingale is obviously safe under the highball etc.

2. Nightingales ball playing ability. It just doesn't feel right. Substituting Boyd with a player in the mould of Nightingale just doesn't feel right. Can you really see Nightingale running perfect lines and throwing perfect passes left and right, or creating something out of nothing? I can see him running around in circles and throwing lollipops. Stanley has the creativity and natural ball playing ability to be 100 times more effective in that position. Nightingale is one of the great wingers of the game and takes alot of pressure of our forwards. That is his strength. Morris was another who was tried at fullback and we all saw how that went. Some players are just specialist wingers.

3. why every time something is mentioned about the fullback position, you start carrying on about what a superstar fullback Nightingale is. And i fail to see it. I do however understand that this is just a difference of opinion and that is ok. It just appears that you are a bit obsessed with this idea of nightingale at fullback and Nightingale is this and nightingale is that. It just seems a bit starry eyed, thats all. But i could be wrong. I don't know you so apologies if im wrong.

And yes you are quite right. I should just wait and see. Hopefully Nighty puts egg on my face.

I’ve been watching RL for 47 years.
Gasnier (that’s Reg) had me starry eyed and Lord Ted on a good day was thrilling. Boyd runs the lines that Bennett has taught him to run, his passing game is okay and he’s developed into a brilliant fullback.

I’ve seen (mostly on TV these past couple years) all of Nighty’s NRL games and seen what he can do with opportunity. When I get the time I watch most games at least twice and review varying perspectives of players contributions. Florence isn’t Boyd but he’s the best that I’ve seen in our squad from a fullback perspective. Stanley is yet to prove himself under pressure, Goodwin is totally unproven IMO, BMoz is not as reliable (but still my #2 option at fullback).

There are many in this place that are more starry eyed about Bosen and Stanley than Nightingale who is IMO the game’s best winger at the moment and by that qualification alone, potentially a damned good fullback
 
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saints4ever

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For the next three weeks that boyd is out id like flo playing 1 for the following:
1 safe as a chastity belt under the high ball.
2 his weird running style in the middle of the field with wingers on both sides for support could be interesting.
3 will offer back up potential more so than ball playing, so makes our halves have more responsibility.
4 lets style keep doing his utility role, all experience for next year.
5 gives peni, a fast, 6 ft plus guy a chance outside gasnier.
 

Ritzley

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As much as I hate to step into the middle of the Cagey Mac / Breathing Fire stoush, I hope Tagive gets a run. Met him at the fan day in Brisvegas last year and we had a great chat - seems like a decent fella and was keen to show what he can do. Now, ding ding round three....
 

watatank

Coach
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that game where he came off the bench he came on to play fullback...made a couple of very nice kick returns
 

macdragon

Juniors
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WIN news showed footage of training in a story on Tagive. They were practising what looked like a familiar sweeping second man play to the left. The lynchpin: Style. Bennett has done it a couple if times this year with Rein and Gower. They get practice doing media and the real starter gets no pressure.
 

Dea

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Regardless of who runs out I can't wait. And the good thing about it all is that we potentially get a chance to see a glimpse of next year. Give us something to work for or know we have to find elsewhere.

Best thing of all... We have options who have potential. Can't wait till Sunday and see not only who runs out but how well they play.
 

Cagey Mac

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I heard on 2gb that Sowie injured his ankle at training yesterday and that he's 50/50. Also that Style has been training at FB but will go to 5/8
Interesting to see what eventuates
 

dragonzero

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I think it because Bennet loves mind games, expect to see him when state of origin come around though
 

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