Rabbitohs and Maguire part ways

[Travitoh]

Only thing is I don't know if we have the right replacement......

We have a lot of young guys coming through and an inexperienced coach mightn't be good for that....

Geez it's been a year Travitoh and a lot to take in....

Now we can't just make Madge the scapegoat.... our recruitment team need to get their arse into gear...

Now the fact Farah is on 600k next season pisses me off big time....

George better pull out his finger along with the made of glass AR who gets 700k.

GI must fire too........

If anyone doesn't put in drop em to Norths and play a youngster.......

If we lose Crichton that will frigging cane us big time.....

Like you and numerous others, i would prefer an experienced coach but if it is Seibold then we can only get behind him and the team. End of the day every coaching appointment will come with a degree of risk.

I agree that Madge isn't the only one to blame and there are other areas in the club that needs to be looked at and held accountable too but at the end of the day it is Madges job to get the players to perform and in my opinion that hasn't happened in the previous two seasons. The buck will always stop with the coach.

 

[The Windsor Rabbit]

Rabbitohs and Maguire part ways
South Sydney Rabbitohs | September 5 2017 6:37PM


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The South Sydney Rabbitohs and Michael Maguire have agreed today to part company effective immediately.



Following a Board meeting today, the Club met with Michael and it was agreed that it was in the best interests of all parties that Michael's contract as Head Coach come to an end.



Rabbitohs General Manager of Football, Shane Richardson, said: "Michael helped deliver the premiership title in 2014 and for this we will always be indebted to him. He led us to the premiership victory, the 2015 Auckland Nines win and the 2015 World Club Challenge.



"However, we feel it's time for the Club to go along a different path in terms of the leadership of the team and the direction the team is taking, and they are the responsibilities of the Head Coach.



"Michael also feels it's in his best interest to head in a different direction in his coaching career.



"Michael is a great Head Coach and we believe he will go on to do a good job at another Club, but as I said, it's time for a change here at South Sydney.



"On behalf of the Club's Members we sincerely thank Michael for his efforts over the past six years. He will always be remembered as the Coach of our 21st premiership side, he helped bring this Club to a new level of professionalism, and we wish him and his family the best of luck for what lies ahead in his career and his family's future."



Michael Maguire joined the Rabbitohs for the 2012 season and coached 153 NRL games at South Sydney, the fourth-most in the Club's history.



http://leagueunlimited.com/news/30975-rabbitohs-and-maguire-part-ways/

Im excited for next season. will always have a place in my heart for Madge after the 21st but i feel it was time to move on and Siebold looks like he has a great CV so far so lets get behind him for 2018 and see where this ride takes us.

 

[The Windsor Rabbit]

Siebold was an assistant at Manly last year according to Tunks and he was shown the door mid season. That's bad form. He is a very poor choice for Maguire I believe. Change at Head Coach has been needed for 18 months or so but Siebold is not a good choice. He doesn't look in good shape and does not come across as the right replacement in terms of charisma, leadership and aggression. Many of you complain about Toovey in the English SL. But Toovey almost won Manly a GF and had them well placed the following season too up the top all the way. Reynolds needs to get kicked in the rear and Toovey may have clicked with him and triggered aggression and leadership into Alf. Reynolds is a crucial player for the team and here was a big chance for The Crisps to re-ignite Reynolds as a top player on a consistent basis. Siebold is not the person to do this IMO.

i dont want that manly scum anywhere near our great club. he inherited a great squad almost won a comp then ran them into the ground and got fired. Why was Siebold shown the door at manly? was it that he is a bad coach or is it cos of other reasons ?

 

[greg jay]

i dont want that manly scum anywhere near our great club. he inherited a great squad almost won a comp then ran them into the ground and got fired. Why was Siebold shown the door at manly? was it that he is a bad coach or is it cos of other reasons ?

The "scum" from Manly is an ex halfback you dope. Many was "run into the ground" primarily because of their AGEING ROSTER eg Lyons Stewart Mattai Ballin King etc etc and not Toovey. In case you have failed to notice Reynolds is always injured or overweight and sluggish. He NEEDS a coach who can challenge and motivate him because when he is on The Crisps fire up. Reynolds is absorbing a heavy chunk of The Salary Cap along with Inglis and The Burgess Bros and if Reynolds continues his downward slide the team is SUNK. I doubt that Siebold will revive Reynolds simply because he has NO HEAD COACH FORM while Toovey was a great halfback and has proven that he can Coach.

 

[Souths Till I Die]

The "scum" from Manly is an ex halfback you dope. Many was "run into the ground" primarily because of their AGEING ROSTER eg Lyons Stewart Mattai Ballin King etc etc and not Toovey. In case you have failed to notice Reynolds is always injured or overweight and sluggish. He NEEDS a coach who can challenge and motivate him because when he is on The Crisps fire up. Reynolds is absorbing a heavy chunk of The Salary Cap along with Inglis and The Burgess Bros and if Reynolds continues his downward slide the team is SUNK. I doubt that Siebold will revive Reynolds simply because he has NO HEAD COACH FORM while Toovey was a great halfback and has proven that he can Coach.

This is not true at all. Barrett was the one who inherited the f**ked squad. Toovey had a squad in its prime and failed to encourage junior development.
Manly could of continued their legacy if it wasn't for Toovey. Toovey is a great guy, was a great player but he's not a coach.

 

[greg jay]

This is not true at all. Barrett was the one who inherited the f**ked squad. Toovey had a squad in its prime and failed to encourage junior development.
Manly could of continued their legacy if it wasn't for Toovey. Toovey is a great guy, was a great player but he's not a coach.

No!!! When Barrett came in Fulton made a ton of changes!!! Do I need to list them all to you??? If Toovey is not a coach then explain these three things: 1. Many wanted him as SOO Coach including the guys on 2SMs Talking Sport 2. Toovey had a GF win until the last 6 or so minutes in 2013 3.He had Manly on top for almost the length of 2014. Oh and Toovey was Hasler's assistant when Manly won a GF. The one who cannot coach is Seibold he will be a total dud!!! What really fears me is that Furner is slated to quote "guide" Seibold!!! Help wanted sacking Maguire for Seibold will prove a terrible error. Seibold has no head coaching experience and he does not have the appearance of a football coach more a school teacher. This is scary and a bad move.

 

[greg jay]

Im excited for next season. will always have a place in my heart for Madge after the 21st but i feel it was time to move on and Siebold looks like he has a great CV so far so lets get behind him for 2018 and see where this ride takes us.

Where exactly is Seibold's "great CV"??? He has Zero Head Coach experience has been basically a school teacher and two other things sound the Shark Alarm on him: 1. David Furner is slated to be Seibold's "guide". Good luck with that... learning on the job that is no good as a substitute for Maguire; 2. Darius Boyd stated that Seibold in SOO is quiet among the players and seems to be able to communicate player roles etc BUT Boyd added that this has only been as an assistant and that the head coach role is far different.

 

[Souths Till I Die]

No!!! When Barrett came in Fulton made a ton of changes!!! Do I need to list them all to you??? If Toovey is not a coach then explain these three things: 1. Many wanted him as SOO Coach including the guys on 2SMs Talking Sport 2. Toovey had a GF win until the last 6 or so minutes in 2013 3.He had Manly on top for almost the length of 2014. Oh and Toovey was Hasler's assistant when Manly won a GF. The one who cannot coach is Seibold he will be a total dud!!! What really fears me is that Furner is slated to quote "guide" Seibold!!! Help wanted sacking Maguire for Seibold will prove a terrible error. Seibold has no head coaching experience and he does not have the appearance of a football coach more a school teacher. This is scary and a bad move.

This is so incorrect it's not funny. Manly had so many up and coming juniors that weren't groomed properly in first grade because of Toovey with gutherson and vave being two of their biggest. Toovey inherited a grand final winning squad. Toovey' 2013 manly squad was as good as the storms 2017 squad. People were calling for toovey to be head coach of SOO because they think his winning percentage as a coach is everything. You're a Maguire hater which is kind of funny considering that him and Toovey are basically the same type of coaches. Maguire inherited a fantastic squad which eventually grew tired of his military like training. Toovey left the squad in shambles before he left and because of Toovey, Fulton had to have a clean out. Toovey has failed to prove that he can build a squad from the ground up so I definitely don't want him as a coach. Seibold is unproven but has been a mentor under Hasler, Bellamy, Maguire and Walters. You were calling for maguire's sacking all year and now you're suddenly getting cold feet? The truth is that Maguire shouldn't of been sacked in the first place.

 

[Pommy]

The club just confirmed Seibold. How is that pronounced?

 

[Travitoh]

The club just confirmed Seibold. How is that pronounced?

Say-bold?

 

[Rabbit toes]

Sea bold.

Or soon to be known as dud

 

[callmack1]

Just been watching the press conference and stuff, I like Seibold already. I have faith.

 

[Souths Till I Die]

Just been watching the press conference and stuff, I like Seibold already. I have faith.

He is very professional. I was very impressed by the way he fronted the media. He has a lot of confidence as well. Hopefully this guy can turn our team around.

 

[Souths Till I Die]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...s/news-story/773379b2fc6e93f3fa4113ae2ca4ae89

For anyone that's interested in seibold.

 

[souths_reborn]

This is so incorrect it's not funny. Manly had so many up and coming juniors that weren't groomed properly in first grade because of Toovey with gutherson and vave being two of their biggest. Toovey inherited a grand final winning squad. Toovey' 2013 manly squad was as good as the storms 2017 squad. People were calling for toovey to be head coach of SOO because they think his winning percentage as a coach is everything. You're a Maguire hater which is kind of funny considering that him and Toovey are basically the same type of coaches. Maguire inherited a fantastic squad which eventually grew tired of his military like training. Toovey left the squad in shambles before he left and because of Toovey, Fulton had to have a clean out. Toovey has failed to prove that he can build a squad from the ground up so I definitely don't want him as a coach. Seibold is unproven but has been a mentor under Hasler, Bellamy, Maguire and Walters. You were calling for maguire's sacking all year and now you're suddenly getting cold feet? The truth is that Maguire shouldn't of been sacked in the first place.

I loved this post. And so it has started! The "Maguire Out" supporters are starting to panic now that we have appointed a new coach that is unproven. This is what I have been trying to say to all those people who constantly complained about Maguire; its very easy to sack him but finding someone who can do better is extremely hard. Personally, I would have kept Maguire on for the last year of his contract to help usher in and develop our younger players as he has a proven track record with doing that. Following that, then we can appoint someone new as it is much harder finding a coach who can work with young players than someone who can simply take a talented squad to success. Nevertheless this Seibold comes highly rated and from all reports is going to be one of those career coaches.

 

[souths_reborn]

Where exactly is Seibold's "great CV"??? He has Zero Head Coach experience has been basically a school teacher and two other things sound the Shark Alarm on him: 1. David Furner is slated to be Seibold's "guide". Good luck with that... learning on the job that is no good as a substitute for Maguire; 2. Darius Boyd stated that Seibold in SOO is quiet among the players and seems to be able to communicate player roles etc BUT Boyd added that this has only been as an assistant and that the head coach role is far different.

I get what your saying but remember, like in any job, you have to start somewhere. Craig Bellamy, Trent Robinson, Brad Arthur and many others were all assistant coaches before they got their first appointments. Whenever you are appointing a rookie coach there is always that risk element that things may not work out but its a necessary risk unless you want to appoint a coach who has failed at another club and hope that he has learnt from his mistakes.

 

[Travitoh]

After thinking about it, I've come to believe that the club had every intention of replacing Madge with Seibold.

Wow we've won 18 of our last 52 games. I didn't even realise how shocking we were.

This is a really damning stat in my eyes and suggests to me that Madge was given the opportunity this season to try to put things right but failed to do so.

There are 3 things that stand out to me beyond results in recent seasons
- The players that have left the club. Walker, McInnes and Luke amongst others signed on elsewhere despite being under contract at the club.
- Players who have left have gone on to perform better at another club than they were at Souths, almost immediately.
- Meanwhile, the players who have remained at the club have regressed despite being at an age where they should be pushing on with their talents and having the best years of their careers.

In my mind, these three factors to me point to a change in charge needed and i believe that the correct decision was made. Seibold being almost immediately announced as his replacement tells me that he is the man the club wanted to be in charge in 2018 and beyond. Only time will tell if it's correct or not but i do believe that we are better than results under Madge in the past 2 or 3 seasons suggest.

 

[Rabbits20]

After thinking about it, I've come to believe that the club had every intention of replacing Madge with Seibold.



This is a really damning stat in my eyes and suggests to me that Madge was given the opportunity this season to try to put things right but failed to do so.

There are 3 things that stand out to me beyond results in recent seasons
- The players that have left the club. Walker, McInnes and Luke amongst others signed on elsewhere despite being under contract at the club.
- Players who have left have gone on to perform better at another club than they were at Souths, almost immediately.
- Meanwhile, the players who have remained at the club have regressed despite being at an age where they should be pushing on with their talents and having the best years of their careers.

In my mind, these three factors to me point to a change in charge needed and i believe that the correct decision was made. Seibold being almost immediately announced as his replacement tells me that he is the men the club wanted to be in charge in 2018 and beyond. Only time will tell if it's correct or not but i do believe that we are better than results under Madge in the past 2 or 3 seasons suggest.

In ask the bosses which I just watched Richo said our cap was in a terrible way for 2016 and we had to get that under control which we have now done.

He said getting Sam back meant we had to let Dylan go and that we couldn't keep Brown or Keary as we couldn't afford them due to Sam.

He said he believes we made the right call and Sam is the man to lead us to 22 in the near future......

I believe players like Turner and Clark will just be used as depth next season and we will have our experience there with lots of the younger guys of which some we have seen this season.

I believe if Sutto stays on it has to be off the bench. His starting days are over but I sure see a bench role for him where he can go full throttle for say 35mins.

Seibold has also come out and said players have a choice (can't remember the words off the top
of my head) but he said he won't shirk away from the tough calls that have to be made.....


Richo said he believes our squad is a top 8 squad and that it's up to the coaches to get the best out of who we have)

I believe if we have a good run with injuries we could finish say 7th next season....

 

[Travitoh]

In ask the bosses which I just watched Richo said our cap was in a terrible way for 2016 and we had to get that under control which we have now done.

He said getting Sam back meant we had to let Dylan go and that we couldn't keep Brown or Keary as we couldn't afford them due to Sam.

He said he believes we made the right call and Sam is the man to lead us to 22 in the near future......

I believe players like Turner and Clark will just be used as depth next season and we will have our experience there with lots of the younger guys of which some we have seen this season.

I believe if Sutto stays on it has to be off the bench. His starting days are over but I sure see a bench role for him where he can go full throttle for say 35mins.

Seibold has also come out and said players have a choice (can't remember the words off the top
of my head) but he said he won't shirk away from the tough calls that have to be made.....


Richo said he believes our squad is a top 8 squad and that it's up to the coaches to get the best out of who we have)

I believe if we have a good run with injuries we could finish say 7th next season....

It's difficult to pinpoint an exact spot this far out but I'd say we should at least be in the 6-10 bracket i believe.

 

[Souths Till I Die]

I loved this post. And so it has started! The "Maguire Out" supporters are starting to panic now that we have appointed a new coach that is unproven. This is what I have been trying to say to all those people who constantly complained about Maguire; its very easy to sack him but finding someone who can do better is extremely hard. Personally, I would have kept Maguire on for the last year of his contract to help usher in and develop our younger players as he has a proven track record with doing that. Following that, then we can appoint someone new as it is much harder finding a coach who can work with young players than someone who can simply take a talented squad to success. Nevertheless this Seibold comes highly rated and from all reports is going to be one of those career coaches.

I was definitely worried about Madge as a coach for a while but I've noticed this year that his actually coached us into games. Some of the notable ones being the Melbourne storm game earlier in the year, the Brisbane game that we were robbed in, the Eels game in the last round. Maguire's simple gameplan was followed and it worked. I felt like if Reynolds returned to form things could of been a lot different. Oh well I hope he doesn't hate the club too much I have nothing but respect for the man. I've heard from people that know him personally that he's such a good, genuine bloke.