Rams already get sack record.

[kurt faulk]

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They said they were going to break the sack record before the season. Well it only took them 5 weeks to break it. 1 sack in 5 games is the fewest in 5 games in the history of the nfl.

The league is sending a message to Gregg Williams - f**k you. The refs will not call holding on any oline that holds rams defenders. There can be no other reason because I have seen it so many times this season.

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[abpanther]

Quinn wasn't held yesterday, Staley just rode his outside speed rush every time. He really needs to develop a counter move

 

[nick87]

Quinn has gone against Staley, Peters, Smith, Kalil and Collins

3 of those 5 are 3 of the very best in the game, maybe even THE 3 best LT's. Certainly in my mind they are all top 5. One of them is a former top 5 pick and very talented LT, the over is a thorough professional LT.

It aint like he's gone against scrubs

 

[kurt faulk]

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If Quinn wasn't held then I don't know what holding is. I never knew you're allowed to hook a defender around the neck when he's about to pass you. What's your explanation on the boldin td when Donald got held back right in front of the ref? I mean it should be right in his view.

When I get back I'll dig up the photos of 3 refs looking at Langford getting tackled to the ground before romo hits dez on that long td.3 refs looking straight at it. Nothing.


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[abpanther]

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If Quinn wasn't held then I don't know what holding is. I never knew you're allowed to hook a defender around the neck when he's about to pass you. What's your explanation on the boldin td when Donald got held back right in front of the ref? I mean it should be right in his view.

I don't know man but it's probably the same as Ray McDonald getting tackled when he burst through the line on a 3rd down play. Also probably fairly similar to Jenkins getting away with a hold on Crabtree on 3rd down.

Officials miss calls, it happens, but from what I saw of Quinn he wasn't being held, he was being ridden to the outside almost every time.

 

[nick87]

Calls get missed every game
they could call holding on every damn play if they wanted too

Rams arent getting any worse treatment than others

 

[kurt faulk]

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The game was as good as over when they let Jenkins get away with that hold. They're like nrl refs, they try to even it out at the end so nobody can question them.

However the Phantom opi by cook and the phantom hold by tjmac on 3rd down which extended the drive which ended with the boldin td were all when the rams were in the lead. The only holding call on the Whiners oline came on a running play that got stuffed for negative yardage. They can't make this stuff up.

I'm not saying it's only the rams. The refs have been atrocious this season in so many games. But the rams get screwed by selective flags to such an extent it's beyond a joke.

 

[abpanther]

You're kidding if you didn't think that was a hold on McDonald, f**k me the replay was clear as anything

Probably also worth nothing that the Rams got away with a bloody chokehold on Cunningham's TD run but hey, forget about that one

 

[kurt faulk]

Calls get missed every game
they could call holding on every damn play if they wanted too

Rams arent getting any worse treatment than others

1 sack in 5 games. Worst start in the history of the nfl. You do the math. There have been some truly awful teams in that time. I'm guessing this rams dline isn't worse than all of them.

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[kurt faulk]

You're kidding if you didn't think that was a hold on McDonald, f**k me the replay was clear as anything

Probably also worth nothing that the Rams got away with a bloody chokehold on Cunningham's TD run but hey, forget about that one

No way it was a hold. Are you thinking about the same play?

And yes they let them have a bone but when they continued dominating they reeled them back in very quickly.

WWNFL.

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[abpanther]

No way it was a hold. Are you thinking about the same play?

Are you talking about the play where McDonald held Davis on the crossing route?

That was a definite hold

 

[kurt faulk]

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Who here thinks the Cowboys oline is so good that Murray is doing something only Jim Brown managed to do? That party/orgy bus was a great idea by jj.

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[abpanther]

I think coming into the season most thought that the Cowboys Oline was pretty good

Kurt, I agree with you that there is definitely biased officiating at times, particularly in relation to East Coast teams I've seen it for sure.

But in relation to Quinn, I just think teams are scheming for him now

 

[kurt faulk]

Are you talking about the play where McDonald held Davis on the crossing route?

That was a definite hold

I'm not sure who it was but it wasn't a crossing route. It was a 3rd down play that extended the boldin td drive. Next set of downs they score.

The rams aren't good enough to overcome all of this. Hell their dc left jj on an island with 30 seconds to go in the half with the Whiners on their 20 yard line. Who doesn't keep a deep safety in that situation?

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[abpanther]

The rams aren't good enough to overcome all of this. Hell their dc left jj on an island with 30 seconds to go in the half with the Whiners on their 20 yard line. Who doesn't keep a deep safety in that situation?
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Yeah that was a bit strange, but come on man Jenkins has to have more brains than to bite on a double move at that stage of the half

 

[nick87]

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/seattle-and-st-louis-pass-rush-disappeared/