RAW Spoilers

[lockyno1]

that's not the point. i said, you may have thought some of the stuff was boring, but you can hardly call the show predictable.

it was one of the more unpredicatble shows in some time.

I get interested by "interesting storylines" with wrestlers that CAN WRESTLE! The results were predictable, same with the PPV!

 

[Ridders]

well according to your standards on what u find interesting (and wit the current standard of Raw) u mite as well stop watching WWE altogether

 

[lotm]

It was ALL over the internet for 2-3 days that those 2 were being brought back!

that's my point. if you actively search for the spoilers before the show is shown in australia (in fact, before it's even shown in the us), then you have no right to criticise the wwe for being predictable. you bring it on yourself.

The results were predictable, same with the PPV

it was predicable that the sd! superstars would go over the raw ones? or that flair would beat hhh in a cage? or that show and kane would be the tag champs? or mankind won? you could even argue that, because all the faces had won previously in the night, angle not winning was a surprise.

the wwe bring upon themselves some legitimate and deserved criticism, but this is ludicrous.

 

[lockyno1]

well according to your standards on what u find interesting (and wit the current standard of Raw) u mite as well stop watching WWE altogether

Look here are the people I find interesting

Angle
Benoit (as long as he is not WHC)
Kane
RVD
Jericho
Benjamin
Flair (respect what he has done for the company)
HHH
Rey
Eddie

Smackdown is the better show with more interesting storylines!

 

[thuganomics]

that's my point. if you actively search for the spoilers before the show is shown in australia (in fact, before it's even shown in the us), then you have no right to criticise the wwe for being predictable. you bring it on yourself.

Bingo. If you wanna be surprised, don't look at the spoilers.

 

[lockyno1]

that's my point. if you actively search for the spoilers before the show is shown in australia (in fact, before it's even shown in the us), then you have no right to criticise the wwe for being predictable. you bring it on yourself.


it was predicable that the sd! superstars would go over the raw ones? or that flair would beat hhh in a cage? or that show and kane would be the tag champs? or mankind won? you could even argue that, because all the faces had won previously in the night, angle not winning was a surprise.

the wwe bring upon themselves some legitimate and deserved criticism, but this is ludicrous.

I get them in my e-mails, so it is a bit hard not to read the spoilers. I try not to. I don't read the Smackdown ones, as that is the better show.

Flair- bit of a surprise, show and kane obviously they were pushing them, mandkind yeah bit surprising, Angle winning (I wish) but little Cena in in the match!

 

[lockyno1]

Bingo. If you wanna be surprised, don't look at the spoilers.

I get them in my e-mails. I try not to look at them but it is damn hard when there is 10 a day on the same topic!

 

[thuganomics]

Why do you have to open the e-mail? Or why dont you just un-suscribe?

 

[lockyno1]

Why do you have to open the e-mail? Or why dont you just un-suscribe?

I don't open them usually, the main part is in the heading of the e-mail. My mate in Florida sends me them, and considing he sends me the RAW and Smackdown shows early, I can't really say don't send them anymore.

 

[lotm]

i still don't see how your mate sending you spoilers makes it the wwe's fault that you find their product predictable.

i do agree, however, that sd! is the better show (especially with scsa leaving raw).

 

[Ridders]

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i still don't see how your mate sending you spoilers makes it the wwe's fault that you find their product predictable. do agree, however, that sd! is the better show (especially with scsa leaving raw).

hit the nail on the head

 

[lockyno1]

i still don't see how your mate sending you spoilers makes it the wwe's fault that you find their product predictable.

i do agree, however, that sd! is the better show (especially with scsa leaving raw).

I tend to read the RAW spoilers as CUURENTLY it is the inferior barnd with Cena as champ! If it was related to smackdown i'd watch the show first but RAW is silly currently with Cena and his rap rubbish!

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

:lol:

Found a video of Vader falling over

http://media.putfile.com/Vader-Falling

It was disgraceful the shape he was in jesus all that batista would have to do would be jog and he'd wear out vader in 30 seconds.

I laughed so hard @ that.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

i reckon it was a better episode compared to what they've been showing recently...i found some parts of it pretty unpredictable (who woulda guessed Batista would appear and go up against coach and the appearance of gold dust and vader was pretty surprising)

...i was just dissapointed that the mainevent got interupted; i reckon that could have been a good match (did anyone else notice that cena was getting booed occasionaly during the match)

You f**king kidding me right, I'd love to know what the go was with SC not showing, a f**king raught, a f**king cop out.

I mean jesus that would have been a big reason many people booked the PPV to see SCSA back in action.

And you liked it?

Joke.

 

[stuke]

how about how long it took Jimmy 'Superfly' Snooka to steady himself on the top rope...

 

[lotm]

I tend to read the RAW spoilers as CUURENTLY it is the inferior barnd with Cena as champ!

then you have no right to complain that you find the episodes predictable.

 

[bender]

how about how long it took Jimmy 'Superfly' Snooka to steady himself on the top rope...

Come on Stuke, it isnt about speed from the top rope. Look at the hang time the super fly gets from his top ropes, Even at his age, he still looks absolutely awesome in full flight. Far better than an Eddie Guerrero or RVD Frog Splash which doesnt look to have the same devastating effect, particularly the way RVD holds his ribs and acts like he does more damage to himself than his opponent, half the time.

 

[bender]

then you have no right to complain that you find the episodes predictable.

100% correct here lotm, it is no surprise that he is enjoying smackdown more than Raw, because he isnt looking at spoilers for smackdown.

If you look at spoilers, then you generally left with wrestling as a pure spectacle, which means you like watching the high spots (largely cruiserweights) and those wrestlers who give off the impression that they hit each move with perfection (Angle, Benoit, Hart etc). You miss out on viewing the skills of the older Wrestlers in full flight (hogan, Austin, Undertaker, Rock, Nash, Hall etc) These guys draw on the energy of the crowd, and their in ring skills are more appreciated when viewed with the entire buildup and interview skills. Essentially, they have sports entertaining skills rather than just sports wrestling skills. If you look at say Hogan v Rock with no sound and no buildup, it will look like a poor match, Turn up the sound, commentry pre match buildup and it was one of the greatest ever. Same Goes for Hogan/Andre and many other matches. It is unfair to judge the WWE's current product and lack of surprises as just a sports event when it is really a sports entertainment package. Saying that, I try not to read spoilers and the product is currently still pretty ordinary by past standards, although it has been improving in recent months.

 

[lockyno1]

100% correct here lotm, it is no surprise that he is enjoying smackdown more than Raw, because he isnt looking at spoilers for smackdown.

Well and the fact that most of the wrestlers I like are on Smackdown, hence better entertainment value. Plus Cena is champion on RAW and to put it plainly that bores the living daylights out of me! It is no wonder why I have not watched a main event in ages, Cena has been in most of them!

 

[stuke]

Come on Stuke, it isnt about speed from the top rope. Look at the hang time the super fly gets from his top ropes, Even at his age, he still looks absolutely awesome in full flight. Far better than an Eddie Guerrero or RVD Frog Splash which doesnt look to have the same devastating effect, particularly the way RVD holds his ribs and acts like he does more damage to himself than his opponent, half the time.

mate, to me he looked like he was wishing his trademark move didn't involve climbing to the top rope.

i will agree with you though that once he got himself up there he did 'fly' gracefully and impress and was much better than most of the current day wrestlers from the top rope.