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Redneck Redfaces 2

ed-grimley

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Finally, something worth talking about, Mary has just about finished his book of excuses. Let's hope getting involved with player contract negotiations was the reason a wheel fell off his coach's chariot after getting away to a good start

Be great to see the Dragons justify their existence once again, must admit I jumped on the 'Mary Merry-go-round' when it was brand new, McGregor's choice of bells and whistles turned out to be mediocre at best. After all, Bellamy claims he doesn't have anything to do with negotiations and Meninga has servants to buy in the food . . . if the two most appreciated coaches at the moment don't get their hands dirty what the f**k was Mary thinking
That's because he doesn't know where the shop is.
 

ed-grimley

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Show me someone in McKinnon's position that wouldn't see his only recourse as sueing and I'll show .you an idiot . . . Merry Xmas one and all
Right on. McKinnon doesn't have anything against the parties he' suing - he just needs to look after his future.
 

Cloudsurfer

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Right on. McKinnon doesn't have anything against the parties he' suing - he just needs to look after his future.

All fine...nothing against McKinnon & his right to secure his future.
Maybe someone can clarify though whether in order to sue a corporate body and get a favourable result an individual also has to be sued as part of that? If so, the randomness of the actual circumstances seems unjust for McLean imo. If not, its highly unfair to ruin a second person's future (because ruin it, it will) and I hope McKinnon is not looking at Mclean's advances in the game and holding him accountable for what might have been for him personally - understandable, but two wrongs don't make a right
 

T-Boon

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Maybe someone can clarify though whether in order to sue a corporate body and get a favourable result an individual also has to be sued as part of that? If so, the randomness of the actual circumstances seems unjust for McLean imo. If not, its highly unfair to ruin a second person's future (because ruin it, it will) and I hope McKinnon is not looking at Mclean's advances in the game and holding him accountable for what might have been for him personally - understandable, but two wrongs don't make a right

I like the way the lawyers have done that.
McKinnon and his lawyers can't really know or prove what tackling techniques are employed by the coaching staff in Melbourne. So they sue the tackler who will now have to defend his position by dragging in as co-defendents the guys who taught him to tackle that way.
Thats McLean's defence. "I was just doing what I was taught by Bellamy and or the wrestling guys etc. So if I am at fault it is really them at fault".
McKinnon and McLean can bring down the whole dirty "dark arts" business.
 

POPEYE

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This is the wrong thread for 'Like' chasers ol' mate, it's designed to entertain, opinions are not sought to be agreed upon nor changed. I doubt you'd understand Jim Jefferies when he said the only reason Oscar shot his girlfriend through the door was because he wasn't able to kick the f**king thing down

Like Jim I'm trying to get a response from reasonably thought out diatribe laced heavily with crypticism, no place for evangelistic posturing or slow witted attempts at sarcasm here ol' mate . . . you'd do better in Club forums where 'likes' are much more easily accrued
 

POPEYE

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Hayne this, Hayne that . . . never ceases to amaze me how much of the media know so little about the game. Apparently Titans' players are 'not sure they want Jarryd as part of their leadership group' because he's not taking training seriously. Surely by now even every red-headed stepchild has realized the bloke only ever wanted to be a f**king show pony with as little effort as possible

Don't get me wrong, hats off to Hayne I say, not many players who really don't want to play the game get the kudos he gets . . . look at poor ol' Semi. The real media revelation should be "Why would any team want Jarryd in a 'leadership' role"

Can you imagine; "Listen up fellas, we'll all wander around in the background looking like we're dreaming of screwing Charlize while the meatheads up front who really like RL create a window for us to shine through . . . remember, the team doesn't have to win if you do it right"
 

POPEYE

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I don't often agree with Ikin but imo he's right about extending Jason Taylor's contract into '18, he gives the obvious reasons for doing so. What's not as obvious to some people is the fact that Taylor's tenure shouldn't rely on how well Tedesco/Moses/Brooks/Woods perform

Tedesco is an accident waiting to happen whilst he walks on water, Brooks is average more often than not and Woods is not as special or irreplaceable as people imagine . . . there are plenty of big pig hunters ready to amaze in the front row, ask Sticky

Moses is worth Taylor hanging his coat on, he could become another Maloney who plays better in his own little world. To not give Jason a chance to dig around, albeit his own grave, for more than just this Tigers' Big Four is to give him no chance at all
 

POPEYE

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Elgey says although he's a little apprehensive about the 9's he's still keen to test his knee and remind the RL world of his presence, unnecessary imo and bordering on dumb. Who has forgotten his talent and why risk playing a different game that requires perfect knees from the get-go

Ol' mate Hayne was rejected by Fiji RU 7's because he wasn't fit enough, probably not good enough to oust anyone either, imo the point of the 9's is overlooked because of media 'opportunities'. I say it every year but nevertheless . . . the 9's should be a catalyst for discovery not redemption

Alright to throw a robust cool head like JT or Cronk into the mix to steer the ship but the more of the 9 that are unknown the better. If you think the piddling amount of prizemoney or the glory of winning is more advantageous than unearthing new talent enjoy the 9's as they stand. Then again, I'm one that will watch every moment of the carnival no matter who is on show
 

POPEYE

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All you St Illawarrians can breathe easier, McCrone is ready to save the day and 'add to his 140'. Widdop consoles Hutchinson with 'your best years are ahead' and Nona/Duffy 'could' come into calculations

I'm sure Dragons' fans don't mind waiting . . . lost for f**king words am I
 

Hutty1986

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All you St Illawarrians can breathe easier, McCrone is ready to save the day and 'add to his 140'. Widdop consoles Hutchinson with 'your best years are ahead' and Nona/Duffy 'could' come into calculations

I'm sure Dragons' fans don't mind waiting . . . lost for f**king words am I
Long f**king season ahead pops.
 

POPEYE

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I'm starting to warm to the idea of Benji having a go in the Centres where if he does kick it should be for himself, a bit of fancy maneouvring reminiscent of Phil Blake would be a breath of fresh air for the game. Providing of course any f**k ups affect him alone and the team doesn't have to hinge its game on him

Unfortunately I can't see a primadonna pairing of Marshall/Milford ever being coordinated and it would be optimistic to imagine Benji keeping his distance when a smart head is needed. Hopefully he'll cruise around out of harm's way and catch the opposition, as well as spectators, by surprise

If it all goes pear shaped and Benji fails to impress don't ever feel sorry for the bloke, Zoe would be the best antidote for depression I've ever seen
 

POPEYE

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Speaking of hosting prima donnas, Flanagan lived up to my expectations of a supercoach in the making by not allowing any into the house, so what's he thinking giving Segeyaro a key to the door. By beating Bellamy in Wankerland's be-all end-all game maybe he imagines himself equally as gifted at reconditioning used players . . . maybe Mortimer is not enough of a challenge

Since I've always been a big fan of Flanagan I see no reason he can't do with Segeyaro what he did with others, turning discards into single minded demons could become his forte. Anyway, the Sharks are now in my 'out' tray so I don't give a shit if James The Untrustworthy does an 'Ennis' or not

Top of my 'in' tray are Parramatta and hopefully Arthur is not letting Segeyaro near the joint
 

matrightyeh

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I'm starting to warm to the idea of Benji having a go in the Centres where if he does kick it should be for himself, a bit of fancy maneouvring reminiscent of Phil Blake would be a breath of fresh air for the game. Providing of course any f**k ups affect him alone and the team doesn't have to hinge its game on him

Unfortunately I can't see a primadonna pairing of Marshall/Milford ever being coordinated and it would be optimistic to imagine Benji keeping his distance when a smart head is needed. Hopefully he'll cruise around out of harm's way and catch the opposition, as well as spectators, by surprise

If it all goes pear shaped and Benji fails to impress don't ever feel sorry for the bloke, Zoe would be the best antidote for depression I've ever seen
im with ya def needs a go in there
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POPEYE

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Proctor says that his best is yet to come and a few knob polishers who know sfa about RL will say not before time. The bloke did exactly what was asked of him in Melbourne and is underrated by dopes because he was a team man, something too deep for them to understand

By 'best is yet to come' he undoubtedly means he thinks he'll be expected to show the way and not just be a reinforcement. Of course his doubters will blame him if the Titan's don't live up to expectations but that will only happen if Proctor doesn't get the support he'll ask for

Ryan James preferring a fork over a saddle is a big step towards the creation of a 'culture', something Proctor has always relied upon and will propagate given the chance. Henry will want Kevin for what he brings, not what he carries . . . f**k I hope he goes gangbusters and '17 is an Arthur & Henry extravaganza
 

POPEYE

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Can't say I feel sorry for DCE, a great talent burdened with too heavy a load of his own making, pity he's a catalyst for Manly's regression to 'ordinary'. Still, which is more the pity, he could win the Dally M if he stops feeling sorry for himself, the award sometimes favours a player with no competition from his team mates

The Seagles desperately need another Cliffy if a cultural renaissance is to occur, someone who takes no f**king prisoners, DCE would certainly make a good offsider but he is no Maloney . . . who will do anything for a big enough carrot which Manly are short of thanks to DCE

In the old days Arko would have simply put horses' heads in the beds of Cronk, Smith, Thurston, Slater, Inglis etc. The salary cap was created to prevent that but like the f**king Cane Toad has replaced something insidious with something just as

So, making the man who is spoken behind his back as overpaid Captain of a club that thrived on 'all for one, one for all' is just about as f**king dumb as the Cap & M's combined. I'm surprised Manly hasn't done what Sticky did, then again he didn't have a million dollar boat anchor to pull up and polish
 

POPEYE

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Hats off to Hook, Penrith are still sending players that don't need to play in the 9's but there are many that are available but not allowed. If the 9's were held at season's end top names would be needed to boost an audience, unnecessary this time of year when ridgey didge RL supporters will be glued to screens for anything they can get

We know Jabba thrives on hodgepodge so wouldn't it be nice for him to discover new talent to throw into his mix. Why Penrith are sending Cleary for instance is beyond me, if ever a player needed to be shielded from excesses it is the bloke they can't do without

Winning the 9's might look good on the resume of a bottom dweller, I wouldn't criticise Brown for sending his best but I'm sure Panthers' supporters are expecting more of '17. I imagine Hook is stuck between a rock and a hard place, it's a shame that a great coach down on his luck for years has to pander to such chicanery . . . then again there are at least 8 other coaches in the same boat
 

Nice Beaver

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Can't say I feel sorry for DCE, a great talent burdened with too heavy a load of his own making, pity he's a catalyst for Manly's regression to 'ordinary'. Still, which is more the pity, he could win the Dally M if he stops feeling sorry for himself, the award sometimes favours a player with no competition from his team mates

The Seagles desperately need another Cliffy if a cultural renaissance is to occur, someone who takes no f**king prisoners, DCE would certainly make a good offsider but he is no Maloney . . . who will do anything for a big enough carrot which Manly are short of thanks to DCE

In the old days Arko would have simply put horses' heads in the beds of Cronk, Smith, Thurston, Slater, Inglis etc. The salary cap was created to prevent that but like the f**king Cane Toad has replaced something insidious with something just as

So, making the man who is spoken behind his back as overpaid Captain of a club that thrived on 'all for one, one for all' is just about as f**king dumb as the Cap & M's combined. I'm surprised Manly hasn't done what Sticky did, then again he didn't have a million dollar boat anchor to pull up and polish

Too harsh on DCE.

The easy way out is to jump on the bandwagon pops.

I'd love to see Thurston win a comp with Kane Linnett as his fellow half.

DCE has been down on form, no doubt. But there have been extenuating circumstances outside his control that have led to it.

Predicting a big season from him with an actual half supporting him.

Look how he played with Lyon in the 6 for a handful of games last year. And he is not a genuine 6 either!

Year before, Foran phoned it in. He was playing at around 40% capacity.

One bloke can't do it all. Just ask JT pre-Morgan/Coote.
 

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