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Ref and Bunker Decisions

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Also can the referee's stop asking the players if they want to challenge the decisions?

I suspect they are doing that to stop them from whingeing. Its basically code for "you think it a bad call? Then challenge it. If you won't? Then shut the hell up."
 

Wb1234

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It happens this time every year as we enter the business end of the NRL season as clubs and coaches go looking for any little advantage they can get.

Most often it will involve them trying to put pressure on the referees.

Last week colleague Dean Bulldog Ritchie reported that Canterbury officials had been compiling a dossier on senior referee Gerard Sutton.

It was revealed that the Bulldogs had won just four from 21 games since Good Friday, 2015, and two from their past 16 matches under Sutton.

So to save all the other clubs from going to the same trouble of compiling their own dossiers, we’ve done the homework for them.

Six-again, play on.

We’ve taken the stats from the last four years, leading up to round 21 season, for all 17 clubs.

As it turns out Sutton is not necessarily Canterbury’s ‘bogey’ referee.

In fact they have never won a game under Ziggy Przeklasa-Adamski, who has controlled five of their games in the last four years.

At the other end of the scale there are clubs that have unbeaten records under certain referees.

The Penrith Panthers have never lost under Chris Butler in seven games.

The Rabbitohs also have perfect records under Chris Sutton and Chris Butler.

Obviously the struggling clubs, like the Bulldogs before this year, have the worst percentages because they lose more often.

The Wests Tigers have only a 10 per cent record (one win in 10 games) under Peter Gough.

The Dragons are just 14.3 per cent under Ashley Klein (one win from seven games).

Team | Referee You Want | Referee You Don’t Want

Brisbane Broncos | Peter Gough 75% | Adam Gee 30%

Canberra Raiders | Chris Sutton 84.6% | Todd Smith 33.3%

Canterbury Bulldogs | Liam Kennedy 40% | Ziggy Przeklasa-Adamski 0%

Cronulla Sharks | Chris Sutton 84.6% | Ashleigh Klein 41.2%

Dolphins | Chris Buttler 80% | Peter Gough 20%

Gold Coast Titans | Peter Gough 55.6% | Chris Buttler 18.8%

Manly Sea Eagles | Peter Gough 57.1% | Chris Sutton 20%

Melbourne Storm | Peter Gough 87.5% | Adam Gee 53.3%

Newcastle Knights | Grant Atkins 60% | Chris Sutton 28.6%

North Queensland Cowboys | Chris Buttler 80% | Chris Sutton 25%

Parramatta Eels | Peter Gough/Todd Smith 66.7% | Adam Gee 27.3%

Penrith Panthers | Chris Buttler 100% | Todd Smith 55.6%

South Sydney Rabbitohs | Chris Sutton/Chris Buttler 100% | Grant Atkins 36.8%

Sydney Roosters | Grant Atkins 70% | Gerard Sutton 36.8%

St George Illawarra Dragons | Gerard Sutton 50% | Ashley Klein 14.3%

New Zealand Warriors | Liam Kennedy 60% | Gerard Sutton 16.7%

Wests Tigers | Adam Gee 41.7% | Peter Gough 10%

At the end of the day the worst clubs have the worst percentages because they have the worst discipline.

And the best clubs have the best percentages because they have the best discipline.

It’s as simple as that.

And as for the Bulldogs, it’s not as if they need to be leaking dossiers.

Their performance against the Broncos on Saturday afternoon was magnificent.

You look back at their record from around 12 months ago.

In round 18 they were thrashed and bashed 66-0 by Newcastle.

Most thought they were facing a long, slow and painful rebuild over a number of years.

Dare I say it – a five-year-plan.

Somehow Cameron Ciraldo has fast tracked it all.

The victory over the Broncos was as impressive as any performance I’ve seen from any team this year.

DOGS OF AWE as the headline screamed on the front page of the Sunday Tele sports section.

No Stephen Crichton, no Josh Addo-Carr, no Max King and no Jaeman Salmon. No bloody worries.

This football side is headed for the top four and anything can happen from there.

And they don’t need any help from the refs.
 

mave

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I can only hope Scotty Penn has Mrs Klein's phone number.

It should be his first call tomorrow morning
 

txta2

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Thats a joke an ex ref can be in that position at Souths. IF they had beaten the SHarks the integrity of the game would now be under the microscope.
Its corrupt.
 

Chimp

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It’s ridiculous that it’s taken a social media blowup from Sharks fans for the NRL to realise this was an issue.
I can’t believe employees of the NRL aren’t required to disclose any links to clubs to avoid conflict of interest issues.
it would be interesting to know how many Souths games she’s been involved in since Gavin has been at Souths, and to look at her decision making in those games (if there are any).
Ridiculously inept from the NRL.
 

Chimp

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They weren't worried two years ago
I wasn’t aware of this. That makes it even worse - serious questions need to be asked of Annesley.
1 - Why was it ok back then? Allowing that to happen was a ridiculous decision - it’s an obvious conflict of interest risk. Even without questioning her integrity, you just get rid of the risk anyway, if nothing else but to avoid the perception/question…
2 - Why has he now changed his stance? Can her integrity no longer be trusted? Or does he admit they got it wrong previously?

Annesley is out of his depth and the game is poorer for it.
 
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Edit - Sorry, just posted the same story as Yobbo before I saw he posted it.
 
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Thats a joke an ex ref can be in that position at Souths. IF they had beaten the SHarks the integrity of the game would now be under the microscope.
Its corrupt.

You do realise that this happens in a number of sports. In the US, many ex-officials are employed by NFL and NBA teams. TV networks often have an ex-official available during the coverage to explain decisions made during the game.
 

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