Referee for the 4N Final

[hutch]

shouldnt we be using the "best ref"? I'm not syaing Archer's the best mind you but having some nuffy from england doesnt make things any better. given the game's also being played between two sides who's players mostly paly in the NRL woudlnt it make sense to have an NRL ref?

hence the problem, the players and coaches want nrl interpretations. we shouldnt have different interpretations, rugby league should be governed by the same rules, the same amount of refs and the same interpretations no matter where it is played.

 

[Springs]

So show us the ton of ridiculous decision Silverwood made last week. I think in this tournament Silverwood has been beter than Archer. I think Silverwood has reffed 3 (?) games between Australia and New Zealand, none have been controversial, especially not completely incompetent like Archer in the England game, so what's wrong with this week?

 

[myanonymoususername]

It's a joke that Archer gets the final. After his previous performance he should have been crossed off the ref's list for the rest of the tournament. That was diabolical, and his grand final performance was also poor.

Silverwood went ok last week. He is neutral and good enough for the final.

 

[johns_reds]

if you think archer is going to be bias for australia the what stops him from being bias to his club every week in the nrl? who cares who the ref is, they should be impartial.

 

[ozbash]

there's been times i think that the SL refs cant be any worse than the NRL ones, then i see them do an international.....

It doesnt matter how good or bad a ref is, he has to be neutral.

You can thank the NRL for the lack of quality refs, we had one accepted to ref NRL games, the NRL offerred him $35 k a year as a professional ref and he had to find his (and his families) way to oz as well as accomadation etc etc.

ARL/NRL dont want neutrals...

 

[The 18th Man]

It's the 'RLIF' that are doing this.

Hence why I am asking them to add "Appoint neutral ref to any International fixture in the future". I should have been more clear in my original post.

 

[deluded pom?]

if you think archer is going to be bias for australia the what stops him from being bias to his club every week in the nrl? who cares who the ref is, they should be impartial.

But when he (and Clark) make decisions like he made in the Australia v England game it calls his imartiality into question, whether that's deserved or not. if it had been a neutral ref who had made the same decisions as Archer made then there wouldn't be anywhere near the amount of stuff on forums or on websites as there has been.

 

[Hindyscrack]

Only seems to be a problem with the English supporters.

I for one couldn't care who reffed the final. At this level you would hope that the referees were neutral and impartial regardless of the nationality.

Most of the hoo-haa has come from over this side of the world due to a bad performance in the Australia v England game, which had no impact on what the final result would have been.

In the end, the massive majority of players in this game are from the NRL. Let an NRL ref take charge.

 

[The 18th Man]

Only seems to be a problem with the English supporters.

I for one couldn't care who reffed the final. At this level you would hope that the referees were neutral and impartial regardless of the nationality.

Most of the hoo-haa has come from over this side of the world due to a bad performance in the Australia v England game, which had no impact on what the final result would have been.

In the end, the massive majority of players in this game are from the NRL. Let an NRL ref take charge.

Very broad statement to make.

I, as do quite a few Australian and NZ fans of the game, have a massive problem with no neutral ref being appointed (do we really need to list reasoning for this? It's pretty cut and dried). I am not sure how you can mark a comprehensive argument for NOT appointing a neutral ref.

Sure, there is an argument that we have the best refs in the world right here in Australia (up for debate), though doesn't make it right when appointing them to officiate a International fixture involving Australia let alone a Four Nations final.

 

[deluded pom?]

Was Silverwood any worse than Archer when he's reffed the Trans Tasman Tests in the past?

 

[Evil Homer]

I would rather have a neutral clown referee the game than the best ref in the world from one of the competing countries. The fact that Archer has shown that he's barely up to refereeing a professional match is irrelevant. There was a neutral ref available, and the ARL have chosen to appoint their own man. This invalidates the inevitable Australian victory. I would feel pretty stupid if England were in the final and the RFL appointed an English ref.

 

[Evil Homer]

Only seems to be a problem with the English supporters.

That's because a lot of Australians (not all) have absolutely no f**king idea about international sport.

 

[Meth]

Would rather a neutral in this instance.

If Archer was a great referee, I wouldn't care. There are better Australian referees. I would rather Hayne

 

[Th1rteen]

Only seems to be a problem with the English supporters.

Yes that is why there are people from Australia, New Zealand, Wales that all have a problem with Archers appointment.:roll:

 

[Weels]

It may be embarrassing having Archer as the ref, but until such time that the poms, and the once were's can provide a ref with some idea of what it takes to be a halfway decent ref for this faster paced game, we are always going to have this argument. Gawd I love this game.!!!

 

[Coastbloke]

Doesn't seem too hard in other parts of the League world...

http://canadarugbyleague.com/news/article.php?id=10066

 

[deluded pom?]

It may be embarrassing having Archer as the ref, but until such time that the poms, and the once were's can provide a ref with some idea of what it takes to be a halfway decent ref for this faster paced game, we are always going to have this argument. Gawd I love this game.!!!

What about the fact that Archer has come from a two ref system. Is he fit enough to take control on his own? is this a reason why he tends to slow the PTB down when reffing on his own? You seriously think Archer is a halfway decent ref? :sarcasm:

 

[roughyedspud]

i think they are forgetting that silverwood was joint world ref of the year


yeah the kiwis are saying that they don't matter who's ref...................until archer DICKs them

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=475105

that post was posted a week or so before the england v australia game.........read it from the beginning.......we saw it comming.....and it happened.....

archer and the ARL will not let what in 2008 happen again...............mark my words

 

[Coastbloke]

Archer is a suitable ref....

If....

The final was England vs Kiwis or PNG or anyone out of those 3...

But they aren't the teams so he's not the right Ref..

 

[kiwileaguefan]

no...i've decided it is funny..


with a neutral ref,the kiwis conceded the same number of points (34) against australia while score just 6points more than we did against a technically weaker australian....

we lost away to australia...and apparently the world is falling in on english RL.....

the kiwis lost at home to australia...and apparently all is rosie


NZ are going to get DICKED @ suncorp......with the help of archer

then you'll all realize its not australia & NZ.....then way behind it's england......its australia......then NZ& ENG