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RL independence day arrives - NRL Independent Commission announced for November 1

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fourplay

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So the QRL didn't turn up to the game? Is this true or is it a beat up?

If true, they must have their back up because of Searle and Co, and chucked a hissy fit and didn't show to a match of that magnitude. Petty.

Actually not petty, as that is what Blazer Wearers do, just looking after themselves.

Maybe someone forgot to tell Ribot that the match was on. That must have been it.

It's true.. The DT reported it aswell but said the QRL didn't turn up because they have a grudge against Searle because of his push for the Independent Commission.

It's just another example of the willingness of these people to spite rugby league for their own little self interests and grudges.
 

Loudstrat

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So why do you want to put the boot into everybody who supports the "concept" of an Independant Commision, when you too do not know what the plan is.

I think until we see what the written objectives of the IC are, and conditions placed around how much money goes where, it's very hard to say that it's not a good thing.
And just as hard to say it is a good thing.

It's not like it will happen without everybody buying in, and people aren't stupid enough to sign off on somethign that will kill the game.
8 Clubs signed up for Super League - and forfeited round 1 1996.

^ exactly. To think that all these different organisations wouldn't put in place a system that protects the game is stupid.
So why haven't they? Is there a date set for when they will? Is there a draft plan of how they will do it?

Thanks in advance for supplying the link tyo these documents.

The problem at the moment it the QRL and ARL are simply refusing to even concider it. They aren't even trying to suggest things to make it work. Why? because they don't want to be locked out of power. Very petty.
The ARL under Love are not, and neither is the NSWRL. The QRL is being stubborn, and doesn't want to be locked out of power. Who can blame it? No one has come up with a decent alternative outside looking after 16 rich clubs.

Parties need to agree to a structure, then get on with working out all the details.
When there is a structure to agree too - or even consider - mabe we can move forward. But how can you agree to a structure without knowing the details?

As I see it, the clubs and News Ltd are more stubborn than the ARL/QRL - because they have not bothered to address any of the concerns they have. It's simply take it or leave it - with a raft of petty crap like "they didn't come to our micky mouse game" whinges, and a lot of bagging in the press.

The QRL are smart enough to realise that they hold the keys. And until someone from the pro IC movement comes along to try and thrash out the problems, the QRL is right in saying "Get stuffed".
 

bartman

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It's true.. The DT reported it aswell but said the QRL didn't turn up because they have a grudge against Searle because of his push for the Independent Commission.
Well there's a surprise! News Ltd reporting something to make it's own proposals and agenda in the rushed clubs-only IC look good...
 

El Diablo

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Well there's a surprise! News Ltd reporting something to make it's own proposals and agenda in the rushed clubs-only IC look good...

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Parra

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The thread title should at least be honest:

"Clubs vote to take control of the game before 2010 season"
 
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If it was the QRL conference it would have been organised months ago, well before any of this nonsense. But that little fact doesn't suit the News agenda. If the QRL had been at the game, up in the private boxes with all the other officials drinking crownies News Ltd probably would have reported the QRL reps were on a junket at the game's expense and they need to be booted out of the game.
 

Bluebags1908

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Wel, well, well what do we have here?

It didn't take long for the clubs self-interest to rear it's ugly head didn't it?

There is talk of shifting the All Stars game to the week of the Grand Final. Of course the hidden agenda is to avoid injuries to players prior to season start.

Never mind the enormous good publicity the game got in a traditionally quiet period for the game. Never mind that it started off the season with a bang. Never mind that the game drowned out the start of the Stupid 14's.

A sign of things to come?


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...y-need-to-change/story-e6frg7mf-1225830281299

All Stars match date may need to change
  • <LI class="byline first ">Stuart Honeysett <LI class="source ">From: The Australian
  • February 15, 2010 12:00AM

THE two clubs hurt most by Saturday night's inaugural NRL All Stars match have questioned whether there is a better spot for it on the calendar.


The exhibition event was guaranteed a future after 26,000 fans turned up to Gold Coast's Skilled Park to watch the Indigenous team score a late try through Jamie Soward to narrowly hold out the NRL All Stars 16-12.

However, much of the post-match talk centred on the injuries suffered to Brisbane captain Darren Lockyer (biceps) and Newcastle fullback Kurt Gidley (leg), which prompted questions about the concept's future.

Lockyer was forced off the field midway through the first quarter after injuring his arm, while Gidley appeared to have suffered a serious leg injury after being crunched in a tackle by Indigenous forward and Knights teammate Cory Paterson.
Both Lockyer and Gidley will have scans today to determine the extent of the damage, but Gidley is considered the more serious of the two cases.

The Knights captain is believed to be suffering a hamstring problem at best, and at worst a serious knee injury.
Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen said the game and the night had been a resounding success and deserved to be retained, but administrators would face a challenge to find a better place for the game in an already jam-packed season.
"People get hurt in all sort of trials and you can't blame the concept for someone getting hurt -- it's just another game of footy," Cullen said.
"The timing of the match is probably the debatable thing, but then again, when do you have it?
"The back end of the season is always busy with rep football, and I think they've started something, and it was a huge success and the positives far outweighed the negatives, so there's no reason not to go forward with it next year."

While Lockyer should be fit for the Broncos' opening game of the season against North Queensland at Suncorp Stadium next month, the same can't be said for Gidley, who will probably miss the Knights' first round match against the Bulldogs at ANZ Stadium.
There were initial fears that Newcastle's most valuable player might have suffered anterior cruciate ligament damage, which would have sidelined him for six months, but it is believed now that he may have only injured his hamstring.

Despite nearly losing his key playmaker for the season, Knights coach Rick Stone said he was still behind the All Stars game.
"I'm not anti the concept, that's for sure. I don't know about the timing or when the better timing would be," Stone said.
"I was happy enough for my players to play in it, and if my players were keen to play in it again next year, I don't think we'd be holding them back."

Gold Coast chief executive Michael Searle, one of the driving forces behind the All Stars game, said the match should stay put for the next few seasons but could eventually be moved to accommodate a new television deal.

The NRL is considering making broadcasters bid separately for regular season and representative games for the next TV deal.
By that stage the All Stars game could be a marquee event worth bidding for.

Speaking after the game on Saturday night, All Stars coach Wayne Bennett said it reminded him of the inaugural State of Origin match played in 1980.



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nr...-1225830264234

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All Stars, Grand final in bumper gala

* By Dean Ritchie
* From: The Daily Telegraph
* February 15, 2010 12:00AM

BUOYED by its resounding success, the All Stars game could soon be played the day before the NRL Grand Final as part of a gala weekend of football.

The match between the Indigenous and NRL All Stars may be shifted to emulate the NFL Pro Bowl which this year was played a week before the Super Bowl.

The rugby league community yesterday hailed the success of the inaugural match, won 16-12 by the Indigenous side on Saturday night at Skilled Park.

Gold Coast Titans chief executive and match organiser Michael Searle said the game would need to stabilise for a year or two before possibly being shifted to Grand Final weekend. The match would boast players from all clubs except those contesting the decider.

It would create a feast of NRL, with the possibility of the Grand Final being played in Sydney and the All Stars game in Queensland. The only negative could be the All Stars detracting from the decider.

"The players would rip and tear given their season is over. The weekend would be a highlight for rugby league," Searle said.

"I haven't spoken to [NRL chief executive] David Gallop about it yet. It may not come until the next TV deal [in 2012]. The game isn't part of the current TV deal.

"But when that comes, it could be played at the end of the season, maybe the day before the Grand Final, or even the Friday night before the Grand Final.

"I would like to keep the game on the Gold Coast for at least the next two years."

The game on Saturday night was torrid and passionate, with injured stars Kurt Gidley (knee/hamstring) and Darren Lockyer (upper arm) having scans today.

The most concern centres around Newcastle skipper Gidley.

Canterbury coach Kevin Moore praised the concept but felt it could be played the weekend before the premiership kick-off, which is generally a free weekend. "Players probably need a few hit-outs in trials before playing in a match of that intensity," Moore said yesterday.

"It would mean the players don't get a free weekend, but that's professional sport.

"You could give the players who play in the game less time in the trial games. But they would then be prepared for such a match."

SCG Trust CEO Jamie Barkley said he would love having the game played at the SFS.

"Should the game rotate between Queensland and NSW, we would love to have it at the SFS," Barkley said. "The game is a great way to showcase rugby league at the start of the year."

Despite the injury to Gidley, Knights coach Rick Stone wants the match as a regular part of the calendar.

"It was a helter-skelter game, the pace of the game was really up," Stone said. "The timeslot isn't bad. Players can play in the game and then have a rest from a trial."

Manly coach Des Hasler said the game could be taken overseas.

"It was fast and intense. There will be a few sore boys this morning," Hasler said. "I think the concept is fantastic. They just have to keep the concept fresh, maybe take it overseas. You could take that game to the world."
 
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m0nty

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Wel, well, well what do we have here?

It didn't take long for the clubs self-interest to rear it's ugly head didn't it?

There is talk of shifting the All Stars game to the week of the Grand Final. Of course the hidden agenda is to avoid injuries to players prior to season start.

Never mind the enormous good publicity the game got in a traditionally quiet period for the game. Never mind that it started off the season with a bang. Never mind that the game drowned out the start of the Stupid 14's.

A sign of things to come?

The clubs organised the game in the first place, you nong!

Fair dinkum, next we'll be hearing the clubs caused the earthquake in Haiti.
 

Bluebags1908

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The clubs organised the game in the first place, you nong!

Fair dinkum, next we'll be hearing the clubs caused the earthquake in Haiti.

Thanks for pointing that out to me Einstein. I know the clubs organised it, and good on them for doing so.

It still highlights my point though - the first sign of inconvencience and they want to look at changes.
 

Jankuloski

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Broncos are planning not to train in pre-season next year as Justin Hodges has hurt himself in pre-season training.

You've heard it here first ;)
 
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Well they harpooned the Sevens, one of our major international development tools, for the same reason so clearly the clubs don't care how important or beneificial an event if for the game to undermine it and even force its cancellation if they think it might harm their own activities in any way. Make no mistake, the clubs will only support a concept long term if it benefits them. They better find a way to make this concept profitable or in some other way beneficial to all the clubs or it won't last. They're already talking about playing it on grand final weekend, which is clearly the worst idea ever, so it will only mess up the international season and not the club season if players get hurt. Not to mention what it might mean for the PM's XIII game which is already a tradition of sorts, helps PNG RL and is already aimed at benefiting an even more disadvantaged people that have given a lot to RL despite very little assistance from overseas in the past.
 

bartman

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But ECT, we simply must give 100% control to the NRL clubs for electing the Independent Commission of the code before this season starts, because... well, because... um, you know... ah... gee?

*scratches head* Because News Ltd tells us it's a good idea? :lol:
 
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