Rnd 6 vs Tigers

[Draginzaaar]

Sele had a poor game imo, defensive issues & didn't take enough carries. He took less than lawrie but had more avg run meters/carry, which makes sense.

Imo he's still managing his calf & flanno wants him to concentrate on the defence with line speed & winning the ruck. I hope he can back up next game because we're a better side with him.

Marschke 0 mins. We should've got him involved in the game, Liddle should be playing 60ish mins imo.

You're wrong on Sele's and Lawire's average run metres. Lawrie had more carries, more PCM and more average run metres than Sele (10.3 to 9)

 

[kit66]

Lawrie made more PCM than de Bellin (33-27). He also ran for 132 RM from 13 runs to dB's 136 from 18 runs.

Yeah he goes alright in his best position - bench. JDB is twice the player Lawrie is -Lawrie makes 130 plus metres about twice a year. Sele will improve with a couple more runs and should keep the starting slot next to Frankie baby and both will keep Lawrie honest. Good to see BMM used as a prop and not 2nd row where he struggles - 20 minutes son, just run hard and give us 10 metres+ per run and hit hard, nothing fancy now.

 

[Wolfgang90]

You're wrong on Sele's and Lawire's average run metres. Lawrie had more carries, more PCM and more average run metres than Sele (10.3 to 9)

Na, you're wrong.

Sele: 9 runs/ 85 run meters = 9.44rm/carry
Lawrie: 13 runs/ 110 run meters = 8.46rm/carry

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[Wolfgang90]

Lawrie made more PCM than de Bellin (33-27). He also ran for 132 RM from 13 runs to dB's 136 from 18 runs.

Whats the source for your stats?

Nrl.com have JDB: 144rm & Lawrie: 144rm
Fox sports have JDB: 94rm & Lawrie: 95rm

Both sites have JDB with more PCM than Lawrie too.

You've also had the stats on Lawrie v Sele wrong in your other post...

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[Hound of Dracula]

it's a STAT-A-THON

 

[thebigredv]

it's a STAT-A-THON

78.6% of all statistics are made up.

 

[redv13]

Whats the source for your stats?

Nrl.com have JDB: 144rm & Lawrie: 144rm
Fox sports have JDB: 94rm & Lawrie: 95rm

Both sites have JDB with more PCM than Lawrie too.

You've also had the stats on Lawrie v Sele wrong in your other post...

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[redv13]

Not sure where they got Lawrie running for 144m unless he hopped the fence and grabbed a pie after one of his runs

 

[BLM01]

Yes you do. Weights are one of the best way, if not the best way to lose weight.

Muscle weighs heavier than fat
It is exercise that loses weight V mouth intake

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

How do they calculate the run from the kick off, if the fullback catches and passes to the prop who lets say receives the ball 5m in the in goal and then gets to the 20m line do they count that as a 25m or 20m run or don't count that run as part of the run meters?

 

[Dragon the chain]

How do they calculate the run from the kick off, if the fullback catches and passes to the prop who lets say receives the ball 5m in the in goal and then gets to the 20m line do they count that as a 25m or 20m run or don't count that run as part of the run meters?

It counts as part of total meters.

 

[OneEyedDragon]

That is where raw statistics can be very misleading. A lot depends on the position the player plays in, obviously the time spent on the field and what their specific role is. As Mark Twain is quoted as saying - " There are lies, damn lies and statistics".

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

yeap agree re Stats,basing everything on stats is misleading

 

[Dragon the chain]

That is where raw statistics can be very misleading. A lot depends on the position the player plays in, obviously the time spent on the field and what their specific role is. As Mark Twain is quoted as saying - " There are lies, damn lies and statistics".

Yes. the number of tackles made, for example, does not tell you if the player made good tackles or bad tackles. Making 30 poor tackles can have a very negative impact on your team.

 

[maestro1]

Not sure where they got Lawrie running for 144m unless he hopped the fence and grabbed a pie after one of his runs

 

[Kolum Kid]

yeap agree re Stats,basing everything on stats is misleading

Statistics can be presented any way you want to get the result you need.

 

[justadragon]

Yes. the number of tackles made, for example, does not tell you if the player made good tackles or bad tackles. Making 30 poor tackles can have a very negative impact on your team.

They do have the ineffective tackle stat on the NRL site

 

[Dragon the chain]

They do have the ineffective tackle stat on the NRL site

"Ineffective tackle" just means the attacker managed to offload the ball. In fact, you can make a very good tackle and it is counted as "ineffective" just because of an offload that wasn't your fault.

There is no public NRL stat for good/bad tackles or won/lost rucks.

 

[Draginzaaar]

Na, you're wrong.

Sele: 9 runs/ 85 run meters = 9.44rm/carry
Lawrie: 13 runs/ 110 run meters = 8.46rm/carry

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Not on the site I use, but anyway Sele needs to do more. And Lawrie should be playing Reggies.

 

[KogarahWarrior]

Yes. the number of tackles made, for example, does not tell you if the player made good tackles or bad tackles. Making 30 poor tackles can have a very negative impact on your team.

Also, it doesn't tell you who's first in when making the tackle. Obviously a player will have 30 tackles for no misses if he's the 2nd or 3rd in when the tackle is basically complete (aka Cam Smith)