Ron Massey Cup / Sydney Shield 2017

[Timmah]

Booting this up as a new thread. Expecting the draws for both comps along with ISP, Ball and Matts early in the new year.

 

[Timmah]

RMC is looking like a very small competition in 2017 - only eleven teams by my count:

Auburn Asquith
Blacktown Workers
Cabramatta
Concord-Burwood
Guildford
Hills Bulls
Mounties
St Marys
Wentworthville
Western Suburbs

Gone from 2016 are Kingsgrove and Windsor.

 

[Timmah]

SS is looking at a 12-team competition this season

Asquith
Belrose
Blacktown Workers
Cabramatta
East Campbelltown
Guildford
Hills Bulls
Mounties
Moorebank
St Marys
Wentworthville
Western Suburbs

Auburn, Peninsula & Windsor are gone, with only Moorebank coming in.

 

[rightleftin]

RMC is looking like a very small competition in 2017 - only ten teams by my count:

Asquith
Blacktown Workers
Cabramatta
Concord-Burwood
Guildford
Hills Bulls
Mounties
St Marys
Wentworthville
Western Suburbs

Gone from 2016 are Auburn, Kingsgrove and Windsor.

Where are the excess Bulldogs NSW Cup players going to play if Auburn is not in RMC?

 

[Timmah]

Good question - perhaps Moorebank's inclusion in Shield is to offset that?

 

[rightleftin]

Good question - perhaps Moorebank's inclusion in Shield is to offset that?

I had assumed that the situation at Parramatta ie NSW Cup players go to Wenty RMC and NYC go to Guildford SS would be mirrored by NSW Cup players to Auburn RMC and NYC to Moorebank SS with Auburn not entering SS but if several of the NSW Cup are going to play SS every week, Moorebank will be odds on to take the SS title.

 

[Timmah]

Edit: never mind I understand you now. Yeah Moorebank will be a shoe-in if thats how it's gonna operate

 

[Tigers1986]

Peninsula left the competition? A shame as they were decent competition.

 

[Timmah]

Peninsula left the competition? A shame as they were decent competition.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...7/news-story/768a218d538fcdff05c93b1126e4cb61

 

[Joker44]

I believe it is the other way around. Auburn will be in RMC. Moorebank will replace Auburn in SS. Excess Bulldogs NYC to Moorebank and excess Bulldogs NSW CUP to Auburn RMC.
Brad Morrin is coaching Moorebank SS in 2017

 

[Tigers1986]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...7/news-story/768a218d538fcdff05c93b1126e4cb61

That's a shame. You have a region begging for a team to represent them in that division and they can't get the resources needed. This is, once again, where the NSWRL let's them all down with their misorganisation of their lower tier competitions. Shield could be something amazing, same with RMC.

 

[Timmah]

@Joker44 is correct, I've got updated information on that - Auburn are out of SS replaced by Moorebank. Makes most sense.

 

[paulmac]

What happened to Windsor? Gone from NSW Cup to not even having a SS team.

 

[Tigers1986]

Windsor are gone because Phil Gould hates Brent Kite and didn't want him as coach, Windsor told him to f-off and had their funding removed by Penrith. With St Marys' return to the fold, Penrith have decided to explore those avenues.

Is there any truth to a resurgence of Glebe or was that all a pipe dream? Even heard whispers of Balmain-Ryde Eastwood entering the competitions.

 

[kbw]

I would like to see Kingsgrove fill in that spot in SS to prevent a bye

 

[kbw]

Windsor are gone because Phil Gould hates Brent Kite and didn't want him as coach, Windsor told him to f-off and had their funding removed by Penrith. With St Marys' return to the fold, Penrith have decided to explore those avenues.

Is there any truth to a resurgence of Glebe or was that all a pipe dream? Even heard whispers of Balmain-Ryde Eastwood entering the competitions.

I heard it was more related to Windsor upsetting their major sponsor who pulled funding. I would be surprised if Penrith were funding them much at all

 

[rightleftin]

I heard it was more related to Windsor upsetting their major sponsor who pulled funding. I would be surprised if Penrith were funding them much at all

The major sponsor apart from the Leagues club would have been Dick Prior's Cooks Plumbing, which switched its funding to Hills District when Kite replaced Brad Prior as Windsor coach.

As Auburn are in RMC and not SS, Timmah's numbers change to 11 for RMC and 12 for SS.

 

[Timmah]

Yep, updated those at the top.

@Tigers1986 can confirm 100% the teams in the 2nd and 3rd posts are in the respective comps this year, no extras or less.

Draws should be out Mon / Tue next week

 

[Tigers1986]

So no Glebe? That's a shame.

NSWRL don't really make the RMC that attractive then do they. Should have The Entrance back with support from the CRL. Bring in Ryde Eastwood again. Get in Shellharbour. Promote the game widespread like the old Metro Cup used to. Diluting the teams just makes it more of a joke.

Great news about the draw though. Need to schedule my Magpie adventures

 

[rightleftin]

Ryde Eastwood will never come back. They were a 2 team club, rarely having anything below Metro Cup, so with no juniors they would sign up a dozen guys with 1st grade experience every year. The restrictive rules on experienced players in RMC in its various names means that Ryde Eastwood would simply become a funder of the Tigers.

In Shellharbour's second season in JBC, St George had no reserve grade team which meant that players switched between NRL and Shellharbour on a weekly basis - Wendell Sailor, Ben Rogers, Jon Green, Matt Prior and Ben Ellis. Thus Shellharbour made the semis.

Shellharbour then moved into NSW Cup with a beefed up contingent of St George players but after a few years they found that they could not continue to finance their share of the JV.