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Satsok

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Sydney Roosters chief executive Steve Noyce will push for the NRL to consider banning field-goals in golden-point extra time when the 16 club bosses and chairmen meet at the annual CEO’s conference in Coogee this week.


A long-time opponent of the golden-point concept, Noyce watched in frustration as his Roosters were beaten by a 50-metre Chris Sandow field goal six minutes into extra time on Saturday night while across town Parramatta suffered a similar fate against rivals Penrith as they fell 23-22.
Although he has pushed for golden point to be scrapped before, the Roosters boss said that at the very least field-goals should be banned to prevent games from becoming what he described as a lottery in extra time.


“I think what happens is that you play one style of game for 80 minutes and then the next 10 minutes just becomes a lottery trying to kick field-goals,” he told NRL.com.


“I don’t really think that is what the game represents.



“My personal preference is to take a point each and gohome but if we have to play them during the competition rounds then make it a try. The extra time basically has different rules to the 80 minutes.
“It’s like the penalty shoot-out in soccer so I think it’s better to come up with the right answer.”


Statistics supplied by NRL Stats this week show that almost half of the 56 golden-point games played since the concept was first introduced in 2003 have been decided by a field-goal (27) with 14 decided by a try and six by penalty goal. Nine have ended in a draw.


But more telling is the fact that although only 27 shots have been successful, players have taken a massive 99 field-goal attempts during golden-point periods.


Noyce said he was disappointed that such thrilling games as those seen at the weekend should come down to a shootout.
“It’s something I’ve felt strongly about for a long time now and I was one of the ones that pushed for the [golden] try when I was at Wests Tigers,” he said.
“I’m not a fan of golden point in competition games. The current prize that you’re playing for is points and at the end of the day if you end up with one point each then that is how the game has panned out.”


Noyce also pointed to the fact that only six golden-point games have been decided by penalty goal as evidence that referees were reluctant to blow the whistle in extra time for fear of having a dubious decision decide the result.


Ironically, such a scenario took place in the first golden-point game ever played when Ben Walker kicked a goal to give Manly a 36-34 win over Parramatta at Brookvale Oval in 2003.


“There is enormous pressure on referees,” Noyce said. “When I was at Wests Tigers there was a game where Canberra kicked a goal to beat us in extra time but those games would be in the vast minority.



“I can understand why referees are loath to give penalties that may decide games. There is just something missing there and as I say I don’t know that… in a competition that is as close as this one is, one point could be the difference between making or not making the finals.”


Asked if his comments might be taken as sour grapes following Saturday night’s loss to South Sydney, Noyce said: “Well I have raised it previously so at least I’m consistent in my thoughts about it.



“It’s something I’ll bring up in the annual conference. Obviously it’s not going to change this year but we’ll see what happens.”


Noyce, however, might again have trouble pushing any changes through with many of those polled by NRL.com admitting that it wasn’t high on their agenda, while Parramatta boss Paul Osborne, whose team lost to a last-ditch field goal in extra time on Saturday night, insisted that the current system added excitement to the game.


“I think that, even though we were on the wrong end of it, I think it is quite exciting,” Osborne said. “I suppose there is an argument that you could consider a try but I think golden point in general is a good part of the game and makes it exciting.


“I’m still upset after the loss but to be honest I’m not really worried.”
Penrith back-rower Luke Lewis said he was happy for the rules to remain as they are.


“[As a player] it doesn’t bother me,” he said. “I’d rather come out a winner than finish with a draw, to tell you the truth.”

http://www.nrl.com/roosters-to-reopen-golden-point-debate-/tabid/10874/newsid/63842/default.aspx

Sydney Roosters, Definition of sore losers.
 

adamkungl

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Any advocate of Golden Try in my opinion is a moron. Sorry Noycey.

“I think what happens is that you play one style of game for 80 minutes and then the next 10 minutes just becomes a lottery trying to kick field-goals,” he told NRL.com.

What if the game is locked up at 70 minutes? Should we ban field goals then, too?

The extra time basically has different rules to the 80 minutes.

No, extra time has the same scoring rules as the first 80 minutes. What you and the other simpletons are proposing is changing the rules for extra time ffs.

For the record, I don't mind golden point, I don't mind the draw. Meh.

I do however think semi finals and SOO matches should have a full 10 minutes of non-sudden death extra time before playing golden point.
 
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Personally prefer the draw,it worked for 90 odd years.One point could get you into the Semis,as Sterlo stated on Sundays Footy Show,ie Paramatta in 2009,scraped into the Semis with one point. (A draw against us :( )
 

BunniesMan

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I'd also prefer a draw called at the end of 80 minutes. And if not that, I actually agree with the golden try argument.
 

Zigwaa

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Golden try ends the game but penalty goals or field goals the game continues til either try is scored deciding the winner or whoever has higher score at the end of the extra ten minutes. Gives the team a right of reply to field goal or penalty goal within the ten minutes.
 

Big Sam

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How about they extend golden point by 5 minutes and get rid of halftime too. 15 straight minutes of extra time would encourage teams to build up defensive pressure and thus territory instead of having field goal potshots from halfway.
 

Honkiest_Honky

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What the NRL need to do is make a win worth 3 points. It's pointless to play extra time and not have a winner... So if a game is drawn after 80min a point each then play sudden death until there is a winner who gets the extra point.
 

IanG

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Booo f**kin' Hooo!! Yeah it hurts when your team loses in Golden Point. As I witnessed against the Tigers. But it's great when your team wins
 

TiggaPlease

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Booo f**kin' Hooo!! Yeah it hurts when your team loses in Golden Point. As I witnessed against the Tigers. But it's great when your team wins

Disagree, It's pretty shit for regular season games TBH, I don't feel particularly good when my team wins in golden point. What's wrong with the draw?
 

themacemaceman

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Golden try ends the game but penalty goals or field goals the game continues til either try is scored deciding the winner or whoever has higher score at the end of the extra ten minutes. Gives the team a right of reply to field goal or penalty goal within the ten minutes.

Mate I like this idea. It adds another element to the game. When teams get good field position they will then have the dilemma of whether to take the field goal to get their nose in front, and then receive the ball back down their own end of the field from the kick off, or go for the knockout blow and go for the try.
 

SaraSassypants

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Sour grapes. So he wouldn't be complaining if Anasta had nailed one in the 80th minute, but it's different in the 81st? Field goals have been part of league since the beginning. Grand Finals were decided by field goals. Field goals in regular matches is no issue. It's exciting and good for the game.
 

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