Round 1 v Sharks

[Roosters rule]

Cole will be a vital cog in your system, if he stays fit. He has limited FG experience and you can tell he is adjusting to the pace of the game. Trying to survive, trying to belong in FG. His game would be very simplified at the moment as he adjusts and learns.
He will slowly build confidence and then try things in attack. He won't have the flair of Blaize or the craftiness of Toelau but he will still be viable 6 with attacking upside.
You are in the good position of players fighting for spots.

 

[Stinkfinger]

i have no issue with Kennedy's play but it doesn't sit well with me that its a knock on to Lindsay Smith when he maintains possession of the ball - he only loses the ball because Kennedy knocks it out.

IMO the ruling should be clarified:

if the defending player makes contact with the ball whilst the attacking player is in the act of scoring a try, causing the ball to be dislodged from the attacking player = play on, 6 again to the attacking team

if the defending player makes contact with the attacking players hand/arm (no contact is made with the ball), dislodging the ball from the attacking player = knock on against the attacking player.

im still dirty on the Peter Wallace knock on up in Brisbane 10+ years ago - that was the same situation

It depends on whether Kennedy was playing at the ball or making a tackle. It looks pretty clear he was playing at the ball.

 

[Pjf04b]

The jerseys looked pretty good.

 

[Hooked]

The jerseys looked pretty good.

A nice touch of class. Especially the 4 strips!

 

[Luke Bowden]

Back from Vegas, what a great trip! I’ve been to Vegas at least half a dozen times, but that was easily the best. The NRL did a magnificent job.

Boys played well, I’ve not watched the replay yet, but I thought they looked good considering the preparation.

Best Penrith Jersey ever! Seeing it around Vegas and then on the field, it just looks tough. It has a real Premiers feel, I don’t now to describe it. I’m sure it’s not to everyone’s taste, but I love it.

Good start to the year guys! Footy is back baby!

 

[Luke Bowden]

Exposed? Everyone but Ivan and @Luke Bowden know it

Don’t involve me in your shit post

 

[Kilkenny]

It depends on whether Kennedy was playing at the ball or making a tackle. It looks pretty clear he was playing at the ball.

 

[Kilkenny]

It depends on whether Kennedy was playing at the ball or making a tackle. It looks pretty clear he was playing at the ball.

Do we actually know the correct ruling. Should it have been a try or was it a correct ruling.

 

[Kilkenny]

It’s interesting, I haven’t watched a full 80 minute replay, but i thought all things considered it was a good win and overall a really good performance for a round 1 game. I also thought it was a good contest and i am surprised some seem to suggest otherwise.

 

[snickers007]

Do we actually know the correct ruling. Should it have been a try or was it a correct ruling.

Here are the relevant sections from the Rugby League Laws of the Game

Knock on (definition)
"to knock the ball forward towards the opponents’ dead ball line with hand or arm while playing at the ball."

Accidental strike (definition)
"when a ball strikes a player who makes no attempt to play at the ball."

Restarting play at 20m
"The game is restarted with an optional kick from the centre of the 20m line if a player infringes in an opponents in-goal area"

Note on Stealing Ball
"If there are two or more defenders effecting the tackle and the ball is stolen a penalty should be awarded except if the player in possession is attempting to ground the ball for a try"

Note on Losing Possession
"If a tackled player loses possession of the ball at the moment of impact with an opponent or with the ground, play shall proceed unless stopped for some other reason, e.g. the ball has been knocked forward."

Note on Opponent touches ball
"By ‘touching’ the ball is meant intentionally playing it with any part of the person when it is not held by an opposing player. A ricochet or rebound does not count as a ‘touch’."


There is nothing related in the NRL Laws Interpretation document that I can see (although the latest version I can find is 2020, so who knows).


My read on the play is that Kennedy knocks the ball from Smith's hand as he is attempting to score. Smith had control of the ball until it was struck. Once struck, the ball moved forward towards the dead ball line.

Based on the above laws (and my viewing of the incident), the interpretation must be that striking the ball in possession of a player attempting to score a try is not classed as "stealing", nor is it "touching".
They have applied the 'Losing Possession' note.

The closest related occurence of this that I can remember was from Eels v Bulldogs in 2022 when Matt Burton knocked the ball from Mitch Moses' hands from behind as he was trying to ground it. In this instance the decision was the same, knock on against Moses, 20m restart.

I said earlier in the thread, I don't agree with the rule, and I'd like to see the same thing happen on the halfway line and compare the results.

 

[Kilkenny]

Too much information, in a common sense situation i would have thought if the defender makes a deliberate play to knock the ball from the attackers hand or hands then it should be play on. That to me would or should be the common sense interpretation. It this instance we have penalised the attacking side, which is a non sense, we want to see legislate tries awarded not find ways to rule them out. Ridiculous to rule this a no try.

 

[Chins]

Too much information, in a common sense situation i would have thought if the defender makes a deliberate play to knock the ball from the attackers hand or hands then it should be play on. That to me would or should be the common sense interpretation. It this instance we have penalised the attacking side, which is a non sense, we want to see legislate tries awarded not find ways to rule them out. Ridiculous to rule this a no try.

I'm not sure that's how I want this interpreted. It should have been a try according to the rules but it doesn't feel right.
I'd be ok with it just being the attacking teams ball on the 20m. I'd have said a drop out but the new rules there suck

 

[Kilkenny]

I'm not sure that's how I want this interpreted. It should have been a try according to the rules but it doesn't feel right.
I'd be ok with it just being the attacking teams ball on the 20m. I'd have said a drop out but the new rules there suck

I’m still now One the wiser.

I just don’t see why we have a rule that rewards the non awarding of a fair try. I don’t get it.