Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by getsmarty, Sep 6, 2020.
That isn't what that saying means.
Our pack is pathetic. We once had:-
A sad demise.
For the reason you outline here is why those ‘go to the players type stories’ are rubbish and have no validity whatsoever! the trouble is some of those players you mention rely on the toughness of others to shine. Take them away and it’s a straw man; never understood why forwards don’t get more man on the match mentions.
Interesting also that the focus on our back line positions get so much discussion when we’re losing it mainly in the forwards, both in attack and defence. Canberra recognised it and went straight through us. I personally do see effort, but believe unfortunately that we’re comparable to a ‘good reserve grade side‘ at best.
Really? We have a f***ing genius in here.
I agreed until I saw latimore and Merrin
Very true. Griffin has already identified the forwards as the weak spot. Get that right with recruitment, retention and coaching and we will see the best of our backs.
McGregor had us with some awesome forwards at one point but it didn't seem he knew how to manage or strategise with them. Eg. Burn out and one up plays relentlessly.
I've seen the guys trying too. They do end up looking like reserve graders and easy beats each week.
I know we are tripe however, if the Red V was a F what rating would he give BNE.
Granted, Gold Coast with some momentum beat the broncs.
BNE -326 with three wins V Dragons - 58 and six wins. Pull the other one Mal.
Oh, Norman definitely has some white-line fever alright
Sure I agree
a lot players have clocked out
prob hard in the bubble TBH as well
trying to stay positive that Hook can have a clean out , change a lot of shit at the club and bring thru juniors , that Peanut could never do
peanut couldn’t even teach Turnstile to pass FFS after years
That’s what we have been up against
not expecting miracles next year but hopeful of some pleasant surprises
Not as much as Mary in the coaches polo
Cooper said he would be happy to work with the outside backs. They surely could use some help; especially with their defence. Mary never took him up on the offer.
In fairness you don't want ex players teaching various positional structures.That is what the coaching staff are paid for. If the assistant coaches fail to implement these improvements then the coach suggests to the CEO to move them on , just like Hornby deserved to and Young should have.
The last 5 years really has come home to roost but it is amazing what a new coach that is professional , experienced and proven successful ( admittedly not the top prize but far better than we have had for 9 years ) can do in a short space of time.The degree of that improvement will be the retention and player signings in the off season. In some ways Griffin doesn't have to do a lot as he is starting from a very low point. He may be thinking it is like shelling peas.
Where I did feel we were a “bit unlucky” on Sat was that we were light on against one of the biggest pack in the comp to start with, before: Host pulling out in warm up; Ford crook with flu but forced to play; Brittain and Kerr smashing heads and taken off. On top of that we had Ellis making his debut and Vaughan back from a month layoff. These combined circumstances realistically killed any chance of a reasonable second half performance taken into account our habit of second half fades.
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