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Round 23 v Storm announced...

cram

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No of course not.

But f*ck, we've had a pretty damn good run over the recent years with minimal MNF games, and this year, we have played plenty on Sunday arvos so we can't really complain.

I can complain all I want I DONT LIKE THEM AND THATS IT. If I just had to get myself to the game, like you and I had money to waste on Foxtel I may like them but in the mean time I don't. And given the inordinate amount of time I have to sift through threads and posts listening to you harping on about the same old crap I think you can just wear the fact that I DON'T LIKE them and if you can't .... well sh*t happens:lol:
 

Karmawave

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I can complain all I want I DONT LIKE THEM AND THATS IT. If I just had to get myself to the game, like you and I had money to waste on Foxtel I may like them but in the mean time I don't. And given the inordinate amount of time I have to sift through threads and posts listening to you harping on about the same old crap I think you can just wear the fact that I DON'T LIKE them and if you can't .... well sh*t happens:lol:



Wah wah wah wah.

Seems like you've been reading my posts too long and the whining has rubbed off. ;-)
 

cram

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I'm with Karma on this one, I enjoy Monday night footy a great deal on Fox so when the Knights cop one it isn't a big deal for me.

If you really want to watch the game live then get there and watch it, who cares if it's a bit late or if the kiddies miss one crappy sports training session. Not as if it happens all that often during the season.

Ummm the kiddies as you put it are part of a team and when they don't attend their "crappy" training session they let the team down....but that's okay its a good lesson to teach them that they should forget about their commitments because something else better has come along :roll:
 

IanG

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Anybody remember that conspiracy theory suggesting the reason we go given so many Monday Night games in the last couple of years was punishment for us not going to Super League?
 

Serc

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I don't think so Ian lol

Everyone (except the Broncos, and a couple of other teams to lesser extent) have been copping them a lot...though when we were a poorer team eg 2007 we got a lot of them as our games were rarely 1st/2nd/3rd choice games of the week etc.
 

Karmawave

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Nowadays the MNF game is Foxtel's number 1 choice game, which is why most of them now are top games.

After Ch 9's selections , Fox selects the game they want for MNF.

Apart from the occasional input from the NRL ( minimal as it is ) , the TV stations are left pretty much free reign as far as selecting who plays when.
 

Karmawave

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MNF is bullsh*t Karma, you know it.



Crap. It's great.

For years, the NFL MNF ( when it was on free to air ABC ) was one of the highest rating weekly programs in America. The ratings and attendance levels were through the roof every week.

MNF became an institution. Anyone would think that Monday means something else in the USA, and that kids don't have to go to school, and parents don't have to go to work etc. ( And their games were starting at 9pm EASTERN TIME LATER than the NRL games even finish!! )

What a load of garbage.

There's no reason why the same could not apply here in Australia, apart from the fact that some Knights fans ( and NRL fans in general ) are so fair weather, they have to have conditions and the world to align before they venture out to support their team.

We've got fans who will look outside and see a bit of wind and a sprinkle of rain on the window and decide not to go to the games.

In the USA, at the same time that the MNF football TV ratings were going through the roof, packed out stadiums of people will turn up and support their team in a snowstorm.

It says it all really.
 
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Joker's Wild

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Crap. It's great.

For years, MNF ( when it was on free to air ABC ) was one of the highest rating weekly programs for the NFL in America. The ratings and attendance levels were through the roof every week.

MNF became an institution. Anyone would think that Monday means something else in the USA, and that kids don't have to go to school, and parents don't have to go to work etc. ( And their games were starting at 9pm EASTERN TIME LATER than the NRL games even finish!! )

What a load of garbage.

There's no reason why the same could not apply here in Australia, apart from the fact that some Knights fans ( and NRL fans in general ) are so fair weather, they have to have conditions and the world to align before they venture out to support their team.

We've got fans who will look outside and see a bit of wind and a sprinkle of rain on the window and decide not to go to the games.

In the USA, at the same time that the MNF football TV ratings were going through the roof, packed out stadiums of people will turn up and support their team in a snowstorm.

It says it all really.

Well if you love the US so much, why dont you just go and live there then.

Oh wait....
 

antonius

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Monday Night Footy is sh!t, delays me getting my normal dismal tipping result by a day!

Seriously not a fan of it.
 

Karmawave

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Well if you love the US so much, why dont you just go and live there then.

Oh wait....



No need to get personal - but doesn't surprise me ONCE AGAIN as a valid point is ignored...

What makes the mindset of an NFL fan want to ignore the fact it's live on Free To Air and will still turn up en masse to pack out a stadium in a snowstorm, while a bit of wind and rain keeps NRL fans away?

Isn't Monday night a weekday in another country?

We're about as fickle as it gets as far as ' passion ' goes.
 
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MC DUI

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Ummm the kiddies as you put it are part of a team and when they don't attend their "crappy" training session they let the team down....but that's okay its a good lesson to teach them that they should forget about their commitments because something else better has come along :roll:

So dont go the Knights game then!

Some parents would have to miss weekend games because of kids sports commitments, why should monday nights be any different.
 

IanG

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Don't think the Warriors have hosted a Monday Night game. Mind you they probably never will either.
 

cram

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So dont go the Knights game then!

Some parents would have to miss weekend games because of kids sports commitments, why should monday nights be any different.

Guess what I won't and your references have no impact on my decision. The point is this where do you get off referring to childrens sport and their commitment as crappy....grow up.

And as a sideline for you the reason that Saturday games were put on to start at 5.30pm was so that families and others would not have their sporting activities inteferred with. That is part of the reason they got rid of 3pm games on a Saturday.
 
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cram

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You really are full of crap Karma, you can't compare an American idea to Australia the two never compare they never will. They don't play AFL on Monday nights and it is much better supported then league.

Your comments about fairweather supporters again shows your absolute arrogance and inability to accept other peoples points of view. You are quick to point out that people don't accept your point of view...well pot meet kettle.

People have expressed they don't like Monday night football. Many of them will probably still go to the game it it fits in with their commitments and what they need to do.

I have missed one Monday night game at home and that was the Souths game because i was sick. Monday night football causes issues for me personally on a number of fronts none of which I feel the need to have to explain to you or anyone else. Simply I have expressed that Monday night football does not appeal to me and I don't like it. I don't back away from that however, when I can go i will.

People are entitled to their opinion and you are off base referring to them as fair weather just because it does not fit your opinion.
 

cram

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For the record there have been eleven people post in this thread and six of them have said they don't like Monday night football and one of them who doesnt like it is a Storm supporter making seven.

There are four people who like it. Of those who don't like it none have definatively indicated that they won't attend the game.

So fact one is its not much of a sample to tell us anything and if Karma, you are referring to 'fair weather' supporters being the total crowd figures for Monday night games then it would be fair for you to say that all NRL supporters are fair weather because I don't any club gets a great crowds on Monday nights.
 

Karmawave

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You really are full of crap Karma, you can't compare an American idea to Australia the two never compare they never will. They don't play AFL on Monday nights and it is much better supported then league.

Your comments about fairweather supporters again shows your absolute arrogance and inability to accept other peoples points of view. You are quick to point out that people don't accept your point of view...well pot meet kettle.

People have expressed they don't like Monday night football. Many of them will probably still go to the game it it fits in with their commitments and what they need to do.

I have missed one Monday night game at home and that was the Souths game because i was sick. Monday night football causes issues for me personally on a number of fronts none of which I feel the need to have to explain to you or anyone else. Simply I have expressed that Monday night football does not appeal to me and I don't like it. I don't back away from that however, when I can go i will.

People are entitled to their opinion and you are off base referring to them as fair weather just because it does not fit your opinion.


1. The AFL have mentioned their intentions to introduce MNF in coming seasons.

2. I accept you would prefer to put other commitments first, that's your perogative.

3. I never inferred to you specifically as being fair weather. Not attending based on children commitments is vastly different to not attending based on a bit of wind and rain out the window, and I don't believe I ever singled you out once on here?

4. Why should MNF in another sport be any different just because it's in another country? If Sydney was a city in the USA, it would be in the Top 5 population wise, and every MNF game there has no difficulty in attendance even though its televised live. I don't see why it need be different at all? They have live telecast of it, its a weeknight, why not compare it? There's plenty of similarities between the NRL and NFL Monday Night Games! ( Just look at the American set up Daley/Alexander and Smith do when they cross to them mid match standing up against the FoxSports logo backdrop hands in pockets, overcoats on - its as American as it gets :lol: )

How often have you seen poor weather keep our fans away from games? ALL THE TIME. Not saying YOU. Saying that we are fair weather.

I don't see how pointing out that fans of other teams in other sports attend their games in snowstorms is not relevant when ours can't go when there's a few drops of rain. :lol:

Not sure why you got your back up at me personally Cram, as I never once singled out you at all. I made mention of the weather/MNF in America/their crowds/our crowds and nothing at all about your childrens commitments.

Defensive much?

And if you read my thread properly, you'll see I wrote that " NRL FANS IN GENERAL " are fair weather NOT JUST KNIGHTS FANS... But I guess that was easily overlooked while on your high horse? The exact quote was "apart from the fact that some Knights fans ( and NRL fans in general ) are so fair weather"...

I'd never have a crack at you for choosing your childrens commitments over a Knights game mate, and while we may have clashed a bit on here in the past, I'd like to think you'd at least give me some credit that I'd never degrade you over something like that. I do have an issue with people not going just because it's on TV, or because the weather might be a bit cold or a few drops of rain, because it makes me sick to turn on the TV and see other countries fans turn up rain hail and shine en masse.

Why don't we have that same passion is all I am saying.
 
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cram

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1. The AFL have mentioned their intentions to introduce MNF in coming seasons.

2. I accept you would prefer to put other commitments first, that's your perogative.

3. I never inferred to you specifically as being fair weather. Not attending based on children commitments is vastly different to not attending based on a bit of wind and rain out the window, and I don't believe I ever singled you out once on here?

4. Why should MNF in another sport be any different just because it's in another country? If Sydney was a city in the USA, it would be in the Top 5 population wise, and every MNF game there has no difficulty in attendance even though its televised live. I don't see why it need be different at all? They have live telecast of it, its a weeknight, why not compare it? There's plenty of similarities between the NRL and NFL Monday Night Games! ( Just look at the American set up Daley/Alexander and Smith do when they cross to them mid match standing up against the FoxSports logo backdrop hands in pockets, overcoats on - its as American as it gets :lol: )

How often have you seen poor weather keep our fans away from games? ALL THE TIME. Not saying YOU. Saying that we are fair weather.

I don't see how pointing out that fans of other teams in other sports attend their games in snowstorms is not relevant when ours can't go when there's a few drops of rain. :lol:

Not sure why you got your back up at me personally Cram, as I never once singled out you at all. I made mention of the weather/MNF in America/their crowds/our crowds and nothing at all about your childrens commitments.

Defensive much?

And if you read my thread properly, you'll see I wrote that " NRL FANS IN GENERAL " are fair weather NOT JUST KNIGHTS FANS... But I guess that was easily overlooked while on your high horse? The exact quote was "apart from the fact that some Knights fans ( and NRL fans in general ) are so fair weather"...

I'd never have a crack at you for choosing your childrens commitments over a Knights game mate, and while we may have clashed a bit on here in the past, I'd like to think you'd at least give me some credit that I'd never degrade you over something like that. I do have an issue with people not going just because it's on TV, or because the weather might be a bit cold or a few drops of rain, because it makes me sick to turn on the TV and see other countries fans turn up rain hail and shine en masse.

Why don't we have that same passion is all I am saying.

Karma, I should not have taken the post personally and I get what you are saying. I think the problem is that on this forum we are preaching to the converted.

As much as I detest Monday night footy I still make the effort to go but I must admit that when the nights are not playing I forget its on half the time.

The NRL/Fox are just not winning the war on getting us to embrace if at the moment. Like all change it may take time. I guess that as it goes on we will find out whether it does work.

I think its fair to say that NRL fans in general are fair weather to certain degree. Not sure why but we don't seem to exert the same passion as the AFL fans and the NFL for that matter...
 

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