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Round 25 vs Knights

gitano

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5. Lomax
6. Field
7. Hunt
8. Ah Mau
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12. Tariq
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getsmarty

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Can St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor save NRL campaign?
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Runaway: Reimis Smith is chased by Matt Dufty. Picture: AAP Image/Brendan Esposito


Right, then.

So, ah, what now?

Prime Minister Scott Morrison might be a Sharks fan, but he has a bit in common with Dragons coach Paul McGregor right now.

A Government. An NRL club. And how to save themselves before it’s too late.

Days after another spectacular political meltdown resulted in Malcolm Turnbull’s demise, the fan frustration at St George Illawarra’s late-season slide morphed into full flaming torches and pitchforks reaction at Kogarah.

Another bitter defeat to the Bulldogs, another sour season wondering how the Red V on the jersey has come to point the direction they’re heading.

And now Jason Nightingale’s career could come to a premature end, after suffering an elbow injury.

But unlike last year, when Canterbury knocked the Dragons out of the finals equation with a shattering last-round result, this time there are still pieces to be picked up.

Whatever happens next week, St George Illawarra are in the playoffs.

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Pressure: Paul McGregor. Picture: AAP Image/Brendan Esposito

A loss to the Knights in Newcastle on Saturday afternoon would likely see the Dragons slip to eighth, provided the Warriors beat Canberra in New Zealand and Brisbane outclass the in-turmoil Manly.

Up until the Dogs defeat, there was a lingering sense of hope the Dragons still had a shot to fire in the finals.

Now their cause seems hopeless, especially if Nightingale and Euan Aitken are out injured and Gareth Widdop fails to prove his fitness.

Without Widdop, halfback Ben Hunt is in danger of becoming the club’s new scapegoat, following in the footsteps of Jason Ryles and Trent Barrett.

Back in January, this column outlined the expectation he would face as the main man.

The problem for McGregor is the decision to demote Dufty now looks like a lack of confidence in what the Dragons are doing, a week after they appeared to turn the corner against the Tigers.

Is there a Hail Mary left in them?

Any selection revolution now can only rely purely on individual talent, they’ve run out of time on the training field to remodel the engine.

Maybe McGregor can take inspiration from the Bulldogs impressive late-season rise.

Of course, the Dogs can play off the leash when they’re not in the premiership picture, while in contrast the Dragons are once again melting in the pressure cooker.

But Dean Pay’s willingness to turn to youth has been a masterstroke, so much so Dogs fans are starting to believe they could be a force next season.

Winger Reimis Smith torched Dufty with electrifying pace on his way to a try-scoring hattrick on Sunday.

Lachlan Lewis has added some direction and unexpected polish to the halves, for a 22-year-old who has played eight games.

Goalkicking second-rower Rhyse Martin, lock Adam Elliott and utility option Jeremy Marshall-King have added extra dimensions to a team once ready to be smacked with the wooden spoon.

So where does that spark come from for the Dragons?

Jai Field to fullback? Or in the halves?

Zac Lomax to the wing or the centres?

Kurt Mann to the centres, if Aitken is injured anyway?

Darren Nicholls to come in if Widdop is still injured?

Keep the faith with Luciano Leilua starting?

Reuben Garrick? Tristan Sailor?

Something! Anything!

Or should it be left up to the fit ones in this hole to dig themselves out?

Morrison has until next year to win an election.

McGregor has less than two weeks to save the campaign.

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Twist and shout: Malcolm Turnbull with Scott Morrison at the footy. Picture: AAP Image/Craig Golding

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...ail-mary-left-in-the-dragons-campaign/?cs=302
 

Drag Queen

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Can St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor save NRL campaign?
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Runaway: Reimis Smith is chased by Matt Dufty. Picture: AAP Image/Brendan Esposito


Right, then.

So, ah, what now?

Prime Minister Scott Morrison might be a Sharks fan, but he has a bit in common with Dragons coach Paul McGregor right now.

A Government. An NRL club. And how to save themselves before it’s too late.

Days after another spectacular political meltdown resulted in Malcolm Turnbull’s demise, the fan frustration at St George Illawarra’s late-season slide morphed into full flaming torches and pitchforks reaction at Kogarah.

Another bitter defeat to the Bulldogs, another sour season wondering how the Red V on the jersey has come to point the direction they’re heading.

And now Jason Nightingale’s career could come to a premature end, after suffering an elbow injury.

But unlike last year, when Canterbury knocked the Dragons out of the finals equation with a shattering last-round result, this time there are still pieces to be picked up.

Whatever happens next week, St George Illawarra are in the playoffs.

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Pressure: Paul McGregor. Picture: AAP Image/Brendan Esposito

A loss to the Knights in Newcastle on Saturday afternoon would likely see the Dragons slip to eighth, provided the Warriors beat Canberra in New Zealand and Brisbane outclass the in-turmoil Manly.

Up until the Dogs defeat, there was a lingering sense of hope the Dragons still had a shot to fire in the finals.

Now their cause seems hopeless, especially if Nightingale and Euan Aitken are out injured and Gareth Widdop fails to prove his fitness.

Without Widdop, halfback Ben Hunt is in danger of becoming the club’s new scapegoat, following in the footsteps of Jason Ryles and Trent Barrett.

Back in January, this column outlined the expectation he would face as the main man.

The problem for McGregor is the decision to demote Dufty now looks like a lack of confidence in what the Dragons are doing, a week after they appeared to turn the corner against the Tigers.

Is there a Hail Mary left in them?

Any selection revolution now can only rely purely on individual talent, they’ve run out of time on the training field to remodel the engine.

Maybe McGregor can take inspiration from the Bulldogs impressive late-season rise.

Of course, the Dogs can play off the leash when they’re not in the premiership picture, while in contrast the Dragons are once again melting in the pressure cooker.

But Dean Pay’s willingness to turn to youth has been a masterstroke, so much so Dogs fans are starting to believe they could be a force next season.

Winger Reimis Smith torched Dufty with electrifying pace on his way to a try-scoring hattrick on Sunday.

Lachlan Lewis has added some direction and unexpected polish to the halves, for a 22-year-old who has played eight games.

Goalkicking second-rower Rhyse Martin, lock Adam Elliott and utility option Jeremy Marshall-King have added extra dimensions to a team once ready to be smacked with the wooden spoon.

So where does that spark come from for the Dragons?

Jai Field to fullback? Or in the halves?

Zac Lomax to the wing or the centres?

Kurt Mann to the centres, if Aitken is injured anyway?

Darren Nicholls to come in if Widdop is still injured?

Keep the faith with Luciano Leilua starting?

Reuben Garrick? Tristan Sailor?

Something! Anything!

Or should it be left up to the fit ones in this hole to dig themselves out?

Morrison has until next year to win an election.

McGregor has less than two weeks to save the campaign.

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Twist and shout: Malcolm Turnbull with Scott Morrison at the footy. Picture: AAP Image/Craig Golding

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...ail-mary-left-in-the-dragons-campaign/?cs=302
This article says it all really..
 

getsmarty

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Where your team could finish: The final round
Author
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Timestamp
Mon 27 Aug 2018, 10:00 AM

The eight finals-bound teams may be decided but each of those sides are technically capable of finishing in the top four as we head into the last round of the Telstra Premiership regular season.

The Melbourne Storm will lock up their third straight minor premiership if they beat the struggling Panthers in Melbourne on Friday night, after their top-of-the-table rivals the Roosters and Rabbitohs both lost on Saturday.

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Those two teams should be able to hold onto a top-four finish even if they lose this weekend, with points differentials of +147 and +104 respectively (the fifth-placed Panthers have a for-and-against of +50). The Roosters are in the box seat to lock up second place and a home final next week if they beat Parramatta, who appear destined for the wooden spoon after a heavy loss to fellow strugglers North Queensland in Johnathan Thurston's final home game on Friday night.

Cronulla are arguably the form team of the competition after strong home wins over the Cowboys and Knights, but will be keen to climb into third spot to avoid a visit to Melbourne. They'll get their chance if Souths lose to the Wests Tigers on Thursday, otherwise they'd need to both beat the revitalised Bulldogs and close a 20-point for-and-against gap with the Rabbitohs.

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In the bottom half of the eight Penrith and St George Illawarra are currently hanging onto a home final spot by the skin of their teeth. Both sides were beaten badly on the weekend – the Panthers losing 36-16 to potential finals opponents the Warriors and the Dragons crushed 38-0 by the Bulldogs. The situation looks particularly dire for Penrith with a trip to Melbourne looming, although the out-of-form Dragons are no sure things of leaving Newcastle with a win either.

Brisbane and the Warriors meanwhile will be playing for a chance of a home final, and both have home ground advantage this week against a team that will miss the eight. The Broncos face Manly on Sunday while the Warriors host Canberra on Friday. The Sea Eagles may be struggling but they did shock the Sharks earlier this month while the Raiders can't be underestimated after claiming the scalps of the Roosters and Rabbitohs in the past fortnight.

At the foot of the ladder, the spoon will almost certainly go to the Eels, unless they can somehow pull off a big win against the Roosters while Manly suffers a huge loss to Brisbane. The Cowboys' superior for-and-against should save them from the spoon even if they fail to beat the Gold Coast Titans on Saturday.

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https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/08/27/where-your-team-could-finish-the-final-round/
 

getsmarty

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MATCH PREVIEW


Knights v Dragons: Round 25 preview
Author
NRL.com
Timestamp
Tue 28 Aug 2018, 08:23 AM

The Knights would love to finish their own season on a high while also ensuring the Dragons head into their finals campaign with five losses in their final six games.

It might be easier said than done if Kalyn Ponga doesn't play, given that the Sharks put 38 on the Knights last week.

But at least Newcastle managed to score 12 points, which was 12 more than the slumping Dragons in their embarrassing 38-0 thrashing from the Bulldogs.

Paul McGregor has a battle on his hands to get his team believing itself again or they will swiftly exit the playoffs.


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Key match-up: They were former State of Origin combatants and the duel between halves Mitchell Pearce and Ben Hunt will weigh heavily on which team comes up trumps on Saturday afternoon. Hunt has been under fire from critics lately and needs to get back to his best in a hurry.

For the Knights to win: Ponga's presence would provide an immeasurable boost but there's no guarantees he will play. That leaves the usual big load of responsibility on Pearce's shoulders, but the Knights are up against a team low on confidence and should be fired up for a big finale in front of their adoring fans.

For the Dragons to win: Theories abound as to why the Dragons have hit the wall again with the finals just around the corner. Are they burned out? Did they peak too early? Has Paul McGregor made enough adjustments on the run? It's impossible to solve but the Dragons need some on-field leaders to get everybody on the same page and believing in each other again.

Knights Stat Attack: With no finals to strive for, the Knights need other incentives in their final hit-out of the season. As it stands they have the worst defensive record in the NRL, conceding 583 points. But if they can knuckle down in defence and Manly (574) get rolled by Brisbane, the Knights can avoid finishing with the most points conceded.

Dragons Stat Attack: They haven't had much attacking success lately but the Dragons still lead the NRL in tackle breaks (843), with Canberra second (831) and Manly third (824).

And another thing: The Knights finished second in the 2002 NRL season before losing 26-22 to the seventh-placed Dragons in week one of the finals. They were dumped out the back door the following week with a 38-12 thrashing from the Roosters, who went on to beat the Warriors 30-8 in the grand final. The Dragons didn't make it to week three, bowing out with a 40-24 loss to Cronulla.

Newcastle Knights v St George Illawarra Dragons, Saturday 3pm at McDonald Jones Stadium

Head-to-head: Played 36; Dragons 25 wins, Knights 11 wins
Previous result: Dragons won 30-12 at WIN Stadium in round 4
Points per game: Knights 17.4; Dragons 21.5
Points conceded per game: Knights 25.3; Dragons 19.9
Televised: Live on Fox League


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/08/28/knights-v-dragons-round-25-preview/
 

KogarahWarrior

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NRL squad for Round 25 v Knights:

1. Matt Dufty – sponsored by Illawarra Mercury/St George & Sutherland Shire Leader
2. Nene Macdonald – sponsored by Relativity in the Loop
3. Zac Lomax – sponsored by University of Wollongong
4. Tim Lafai – sponsored by Kingsgrove Sports Centre
5. Jordan Pereira – sponsored by SMAI
6. Kurt Mann – sponsored by Dynamic Projects
7. Ben Hunt– sponsored by Paul's Customs and Forwarding Solutions
8. James Graham – sponsored by EFEX
9. Cameron McInnes (c) – sponsored by Floormania
10. Leeson Ah Mau – sponsored by My Muscle Chef
11. Tyson Frizell (c) – sponsored by Val Morgan
12. Tariq Sims – sponsored by Stonemasons & Landscapers (since 1970)
13. Jack de Belin – sponsored by Wollongong Jetski

Interchange:
14. Jeremy Latimore – sponsored by Addbuild Additions15. Jai Field – sponsored by Wollongong Diagnostics16. Blake Lawrie – sponsored by Westfund17. Luciano Leilua – sponsored by Domus Lighting
18. Reece Robson
19. Patrick Herbert
20. Hame Sele
21. Jacob Host
 

KogarahWarrior

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Good to see Lomax getting a run but upset that Patty Herbert hasn't got a go yet. Poor guydeserves to get a chance.
 

getsmarty

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Widdop remains on sidelines as Lomax set to start for Dragons
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Sidelined: Gareth Widdop. Picture: Adam McLean.

St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor has opted to play it safe with injured skipper Gareth Widdop, leaving the five-eighth out of his extended squad for this weekend’s crucial clash with Newcastle.

While initially expected to miss three to six weeks, Widdop was an outside chance of returning to the team for round 25, however coaching staff have determined his shoulder isn’t yet ready for the rigours of an NRL match.

The Dragons have had mixed results without their captain, defeating the Tigers a fortnight ago before capitulating against the Bulldogs on Sunday afternoon.

St George Illawarra forward Jack de Belin acknowledged Widdop’s absence has hurt the team, however he backed replacement Kurt Mann to deliver another consistent performance.

“He’s our skipper, he’s the heart and soul of our side, he’s a massive influence off and on the field,” de Belin said. “To lose him at this crucial time of the year has been difficult.

“But at the same time, it’s next man up, whoever has got to fill that position has got to do a job. I feel like Kurt Mann has been one of our best the past month or so, so no excuses there.”

The halves haven’t been the only area the Dragons have struggled lately, with the forward pack a shadow of the one that was blowing rivals off the park earlier in the season.

With Widdop still sitting on the sidelines, Tariq Sims concedes the forward pack has an added responsibility to lay a platform for Mann and halfback Ben Hunt.

“There’s no doubt that he [Gareth] does add a bit of direction in the game management area, but, it comes down to us forwards laying the platform for Ben and Kurt,” Sims said.

“I think Kurt’s running game is outstanding, so we really need to play to our strengths and that’s, first of all catching the ball and getting out of our own end, and then laying a better platform for Ben and Kurt to play on the back of.”

While the halves remain unchanged, McGregor has been forced to make a number of other changes after centre Euan Aitken and winger Jason Nightingale were injured on Sunday.

Zac Lomax has been named at centre, while Jordan Pereira returns to the number five jersey. Matt Dufty has been listed at fullback, with Jai Field moving on to the bench.

McGregor may have opted against gambling with his injured five-eighth, but he has made one fairly major gamble with his team’s preparation for Saturday’s match.

Rather than flogging the side on the training paddock until they iron out the many kinks exposed by the Bulldogs, McGregor has taken the opposite approach, with the Dragons to complete just one field session this week, a captain’s run on Friday.

The move comes in a bid to freshen up a side that has looked lethargic and tired since the Origin period.

With the benefit of hindsight, de Belin concedes a post-Origin rest may have been wise, however he doesn’t regret the decision to play through the period.

“Looking back at it, maybe I could’ve done with a rest,” de Belin said. “But at the time, you want to play, you always want to back up and do your best for your club. Maybe the lesson’s learnt there, it’s probably better to freshen your players up, but at the same time, if he had asked me, I would have said ‘No, I’ll play.”

https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...veil-round-25-side-to-face-newcastle/?cs=3713
 
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McGregor's stupidity continues to astonish

Freshening them up instead of training - moronic!

Absolutely no tactical team changes after that clusterf**k of a game on Saturday - incredibly dumb!
 

Dragonslayer

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Freshening them up, one of your best Mary. That should of happened weeks ago, not a week out from the finals.
Its too late now champ.

Maybe McGregor has given up coaching and letti g them run the ship until Friday's captains run.
I'm ok with that, the further he's away from Lomax the better.

I still expect changes to the final team that will run out on Sat, or maybe thats just wishful thinking.
 

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