round 4 fallout

[Rsag85]

how many nrl teams would win having 5 of their top players out???

sam burgess, tom burgess, sutton, reynolds, johnston.

Not many but my point is our depth has been weaken with the signing of Sam Burgess this is a facted

 

[Rsag85]

I think we need 4 forwards on the bench instead of a dummy half and a centre with two forwards on the bench.

 

[souths_pride]

Short turn around and grueling 430 tackle effort on a wet track last week can't have helped your side. It's a big scoreline but I wouldn't be calling for mass sackings just yet. They'll woop Manly next week for sure.

Not many but my point is our depth has been weaken with the signing of Sam Burgess this is a facted

Also, remember that Inglis is one big money as well. To be honest, as it stands, I wouldn't be too upset if we lost him to Brisbane. For what we are paying him, he should be doing better.

 

[Rsag85]

Also, remember that Inglis is one big money as well. To be honest, as it stands, I wouldn't be too upset if we lost him to Brisbane. For what we are paying him, he should be doing better.

I disagree

 

[souths_pride]

Getting Sam back was the only smart recruitment Souths did in the last 12 months

End of last season with no Sam in the team Souths were down 0-22 at halftime vs Bulldogs, down 0-30 at halftime vs Roosters, lost 12-47 to Broncos and lost badly to the Sharks in the finals

Today down 0-32 at halftime vs Bulldogs without Sam was just a continuation of the form from the end of last season

Souths have way too many NSW Cup players in their top 20 players

Maguire is a great coach with the players he's got. But he is a hopeless recruiter

I'm not sure whether you mean that in a literal or a metaphoric sense lol! This South Sydney squad has a nice blend of youth and experience with the potential to go far. Unfortunately, at present a large portion of our experienced players are out injured so the team we fielded today was very inexperienced. Hence, the majority of players out there were NSW cup players making their way in first grade. It is also important to remember that Michael Maguire doesn't rate the Holden Cup too highly, so he plays all our talent youngsters in reserve grade and gets them to play a level up. I think that people who are going off the deep end and criticizing the club are kidding themselves; any team in the comp would struggle if they had 6 of their top players out injured, including their best player and halfback.

 

[Rhyno]

like i been saying too many duds at souths we need a big clean out at souths next year its obvious we absolutely got no back up

Time to move GI on

 

[Rsag85]

GI can't do his job if his forwards aren't making metres and his halves aren't kicking well something we didn't do today easy to blame GI but a number of players didn't turn up today including our halves who where terrible.

 

[souths_pride]

GI can't do his job if his forwards aren't making metres and his halves aren't kicking well something we didn't do today easy to blame GI but a number of players didn't turn up today including our halves who where terrible.

I thought Cody Walker was one of our better players. I think he tried hard in every aspect and produced some scintillating moments in a well beaten team. My only criticism of him is that he is in the team to run the ball and take it to the line; he needs to do that more and no worry so much about kicking.

 

[alien]

I thought Cody Walker was one of our better players. I think he tried hard in every aspect and produced some scintillating moments in a well beaten team. My only criticism of him is that he is in the team to run the ball and take it to the line; he needs to do that more and no worry so much about kicking.

he is definitely looking quick!

 

[alien]

Time to move GI on

i reckon you are probably trolling but his contract ends at the end of next season. i think he'll retire after that

 

[Rabbits20]

Easy wins against a poor roosters and a poor Knights teams has probably masked a few problems we have in our team.
To start with our forwards lost us that game. Graham and tolman absolutely dominated. I have serious questions on george burgess worth. He is one of the highest paid players in the game and we aren't getting value from him. Tyrell was crap to, but je is only on a small fraction of the money that George is on plus his role in the team is to cover G.Burgess defensive deficiencies. Long term I'd like souths to move him on and get a cheaper more effective prop but short term I'd like to see sam move to prop and George to the bench. When George is good his very good, but far to many yimeshe is actually detrimental to the team.
Goodwins bubble bust, he had a shocker, and was huge relief when madge pulled him with 20 minutes to go. Hopefully auva'a starts next week and aj is back (oldfield was ok).
Our halves need work, our kicking game is basically bomb with no chase. Both were limited in attack due to the forwards being dominated, and both showed glimpses at times, but jeez we need Reynolds back.
Inglis. Well for the first time ever I'm doubting inglis. He wasn't actually bad, and early on he was taking hit-ups when the forwards weren't. But there is problems there obviously.
So in summary
Players to drop- goodwin, carter
Players to the bench- G.Burgess
Players on notice- cook, tyrell, clark, inglis (never thought I'd say that)

Team for next week
Inglis
Aj
Hunt
Auva
Gray
Walker
Keary
Tyrell
Mcinnes
S.burgess
Turner
Brown
Grevsmuhl

Cook
G.burgess
Clark
Tba

Some good points.

Cook and GI shouldn't be on notice at all. No way should GI be considered to be on notice.

Bryson did a hamstring and that's why he went off.

Our edges were caught out as we were compressed trying to stop the Dogs forwards. You can't blame Bryson. Most in my bay thought he did his best.

Bryson wasn't as bad as you make out.

Imo Oldfield was ordinary.

Tyrrell made 1 hit up only and should be dropped.

Carter should come off the interchange.

 

[Rabbits20]

Tyrell is not up to first grade standards IMO

He made 1 hit up.

Time for Norths.

 

[Rabbits20]

Guys we need to cool down and think with our heads. Everyone is a bit pissed off and fired up over the result and rightfully so. However, lets calm down and remember we are only in round 4. Remember, the Cowboys lost their first 3 games last year and were absolutely shocking in them. I can remember in 1999, Brisbane, the defending premiers, lost something like 8 out of their first 9 games or something but still went on to make the finals. My point is that all is not lost and we should not run around like lunatics wanting everyone to be dropped.

There are two key factors that need to be taken into account. One of those is that we were missing 6 of our top 17 players. That's a huge amount and any team in the comp would suffer if they had that many injuries. The other thing that we need to consider is that we were fielding a highly inexperienced team against a team of seasoned first graders. In saying that, I do believe some changes need to be made. Firstly, I believe Kyle Turner needs to go out of the team and Grevsmuhl needs to start. Secondly, Damian Cook needs to be our starting hooker, Dave Tyrell need to start from the bench in favour of Tom Burgess or another front rower; we cannot afford to be playing back rowers, like Clark, in the front row and going into games light.

My team would be this:
1. Inglis
2. Johnston
3. Goodwin
4. Hunt
5. Gray
6. Walker
7. Keary
8. G. Burgess
9. Cook
10. T. Burgess
11. Grevsmuhl
12. Carter
13. S. Burgess
14. McInnes
15. Brown
16. Tyrell
17. Auvaa/Clark

I like this team.

The bench lacks oomph though.

 

[Rabbits20]

Brown tried hard, and even though he seemed to get smashed a few times still always managed to get an offload away which we have always lacked.

The one mistake i cant forgive Carter for is that DUMB run on the tryline. RUN STRAIGHT and that push back and drop ball doesnt lead to a try. McGuire should have yanked him from the field right then.

Ive always said Tyrrell is awful, he is a Pillow and should buy a lotto ticket for avoiding the wrath of Graham. Should have sent him packing and bought back Luke Burgess, atleast he doesnt shy away from the work and still can tackle.

I know they had alot of time in the in goal line but sometimes was disappointed with the lack of talk from captain Inglis

Yeah GI doesn't talk enough and fire up as captain when needed

Geez we missed Sam and Reyno.

 

[Rabbits20]

Not many but my point is our depth has been weaken with the signing of Sam Burgess this is a facted

It was a no brainer bringing Sam back though.

 

[CAFPOW]

I do not think Madge will make massive changes.

1. Gi
2. AJ
3. Hunt
4. Goodwin
5. Gray
6. Walker
7. Keary
8. G. Burgess
9. Cook
10. Brown
11. Turner
12. Carter
13. S. Burgess

14. Auva'a
15. Gosiewski
16. Grevsmuhl
17. T. Burgess

 

[Packy]

Not a Souths fan but I really think you need to run 1 hooker with your squad. Cook played 80 a few times at the Dogs. I like McInnes but if he isn't 80 capable... well..