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Round 5 Vs Cowboys

UDGE

Juniors
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While I believe it's best for Reed's long term development and welfare to spend some time in reserve grade playing against men before we throw him to the wolves you do make a good point here. The Titans were there to be taken in the first half. I agree that a combo of Reed and Atkinson would have scored at least three tries in that first half with all that possession and we probably skip away to a big half time lead.
Food for thought.....
Unfortunately Atkinson has been there done sweet FA couple of great moments and lots of errors , stats don't lie . Missed tackles , missed kicks , dropped balls , bad passes , bad decisions , i'm hoping it's just nerves because to much weight has been put on his shoulders . Imagine if his last name was flanagan , he would have been linched by now LOL . I hope he comes good i think it's in him to be a great 5/8 . But i'm not going to go out on a limb and say if we did this or this person played this would of happened because that would just be speculating and i'm not a wizard with a crystal ball . But i agree that if we throw Reed out there it may go pear shaped and we lose our future trump card or chances are he kills it . It's a massive gamble to take for a coach or club at this level . It just can not be taken that lightly to please us supporters , this is his career / future life we're talking about . I think on the scale of things keeping us poor old dragons tragic's happy is not as high on his or his management's or the club's staff priority list as we would like it to be , yes we're important as any sports team without supporters is screwed but there's more to it much more .
 

UDGE

Juniors
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Sloan is a perfect example of this . He was killing it , then Griffin threw him to the wolves against a cracking sharks side in torrential rain . He had a shocker and then Griffin gave it to him in the shed after the game in front of everyone . Confidence gone , never been the same since he could have been anything . Very sad very big loss .
 

DodgyDragons

Juniors
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FMD, with Kyle out with concussion protocols, we have missed the opportunity to shake the back line up a bit and serve a bit of notice to the old boys.
Perfect opportunity to move Sloan to fullback, Gutho to the 6man bench, Atkinson to 5/8, and Reed to halfback.
Suli back in the centres and the Fale on the wing.
Couchman back in and Pieman back in Reggie’s with Liddle getting on earlier with Cook either getting a rest or joining the forward rotation.
It’s time to see whether these young boys have got what it takes to win games.
Im sick to death of this softly softly approach with players who aren’t showing anything.
Give Gutho the kick up the arse he needs, and he is on the bench to cover injury/shockers from Sloan/Fale/Reed.
We have to try something ffs 🤦‍♂️
 

Phantom V

Juniors
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FMD, with Kyle out with concussion protocols, we have missed the opportunity to shake the back line up a bit and serve a bit of notice to the old boys.
Perfect opportunity to move Sloan to fullback, Gutho to the 6man bench, Atkinson to 5/8, and Reed to halfback.
Suli back in the centres and the Fale on the wing.
Couchman back in and Pieman back in Reggie’s with Liddle getting on earlier with Cook either getting a rest or joining the forward rotation.
It’s time to see whether these young boys have got what it takes to win games.
Im sick to death of this softly softly approach with players who aren’t showing anything.
Give Gutho the kick up the arse he needs, and he is on the bench to cover injury/shockers from Sloan/Fale/Reed.
We have to try something ffs 🤦‍♂️
I couldn’t agree more. You need to have an effective running threat in a 5/8 to open up gaps for the centres and we haven’t had that with Kyle. Get Reed in there to organise and let Atkinson play his natural game to open up our backline.
 

Victoire

Juniors
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1,460
I'm grateful to the Dragons for being so shit in these grim economic times. Obviously I've already paid for a membership so that money's squandered... but I'm still saving potentially hundreds of dollars in fuel, exorbitant food & drinks at the game and possibly several schooners at the club as I attempt to drown my sorrows again. During a cost of living crisis, being at the bottom of the ladder actually helps our bottom line :pray:
 

redandwhite4evr

Juniors
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2,220
I'm grateful to the Dragons for being so shit in these grim economic times. Obviously I've already paid for a membership so that money's squandered... but I'm still saving potentially hundreds of dollars in fuel, exorbitant food & drinks at the game and possibly several schooners at the club as I attempt to drown my sorrows again. During a cost of living crisis, being at the bottom of the ladder actually helps our bottom line :pray:
I assume you are saying you won't be at the game but if we are going to win, a rocking, nosiy, parochial Kogarah with no Cowboy supporters in sight is going to be a huge boost to the boys to stop our unwanted winless record.
 

possm

Coach
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FMD, with Kyle out with concussion protocols, we have missed the opportunity to shake the back line up a bit and serve a bit of notice to the old boys.
Perfect opportunity to move Sloan to fullback, Gutho to the 6man bench, Atkinson to 5/8, and Reed to halfback.
Suli back in the centres and the Fale on the wing.
Couchman back in and Pieman back in Reggie’s with Liddle getting on earlier with Cook either getting a rest or joining the forward rotation.
It’s time to see whether these young boys have got what it takes to win games.
Im sick to death of this softly softly approach with players who aren’t showing anything.
Give Gutho the kick up the arse he needs, and he is on the bench to cover injury/shockers from Sloan/Fale/Reed.
We have to try something ffs 🤦‍♂️
Reed's omission from the 17 while Kyle is our was done purposely. What if Reed did well and ignited our sluggish halves to bring about a win?
 

redandwhite4evr

Juniors
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FMD, with Kyle out with concussion protocols, we have missed the opportunity to shake the back line up a bit and serve a bit of notice to the old boys.
Perfect opportunity to move Sloan to fullback, Gutho to the 6man bench, Atkinson to 5/8, and Reed to halfback.
Suli back in the centres and the Fale on the wing.
Couchman back in and Pieman back in Reggie’s with Liddle getting on earlier with Cook either getting a rest or joining the forward rotation.
It’s time to see whether these young boys have got what it takes to win games.
Im sick to death of this softly softly approach with players who aren’t showing anything.
Give Gutho the kick up the arse he needs, and he is on the bench to cover injury/shockers from Sloan/Fale/Reed.
We have to try something ffs 🤦‍♂️
I admit I may be reading more into Reed's outstanding trial game against Newcastle than I should, but he outpointed a pretty good, seasoned half back in Sandon Smith, and, in the process showed he was an out and out half back. He has the speed, guile, vision, kicking game and game management than poor old Kyle will never have and that Atko also seems to lack. Atko has a big boot but is yet to show any signs of a shorter kicking game- grubber into the in-goal, chip and chase, strategic 40/20 attempt etc. It's all been 5 up the guts and a bomb of varying accuracy. Boring and predictable.

I know that some are concerned with Reed being injured but the increasingly common occurrence of head clash of Kyle with Buchanan shows that the modern game of Rugby League with multiple players running in to shut down a ball runner carries with it risk that goes beyond the size of participants.
 
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I admit I may be reading more into Reed's outstanding trial game against Newcastle than I should, but he outpointed a pretty good, seasoned half back in Sandon Smith, and, in the process showed he was an out and out half back. He has the speed, guile, vision, kicking game and game management than poor old Kyle will never have and that Atko also seems to lack. Atko has a big boot but is yet to show any signs of a shorter kicking game- grubber into the in-goal, chip and chase, strategic 40/20 attempt etc. It's all been 5 up the guts and a bomb of varying accuracy. Boring and predictable.

I know that some are concerned with Reed being injured but the increasingly common occurrence of head clash of Kyle with Buchanan shows that the modern game of Rugby League with multiple players running in to shut down a ball runner carries with it risk that goes beyond the size of participants.
Sandon Smith is a "seasoned halfback" now? He was a fill-in for Walker, wasn't he? He has a good skillset but was compliment by Savala.
Lots of people on here were hot for Atkinson but now he's pretty much officially regarded as a damp squib. How much of that has to do with Flanno and his tedious "game plan" coaching the life out of him?
Are all the players getting the kind of management that Lomax got ("You're only the 23rd best centre in the NRL"). If so, it's negative, knuckle-dragging, retrograde crap and the best known way to alienate the playing group.
 

jeffdragon

Bench
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Sandon Smith is a "seasoned halfback" now? He was a fill-in for Walker, wasn't he? He has a good skillset but was compliment by Savala.
Lots of people on here were hot for Atkinson but now he's pretty much officially regarded as a damp squib. How much of that has to do with Flanno and his tedious "game plan" coaching the life out of him?
Are all the players getting the kind of management that Lomax got ("You're only the 23rd best centre in the NRL"). If so, it's negative, knuckle-dragging, retrograde crap and the best known way to alienate the playing group.
Boring footy,example.
How many times do we need to see Lawrie get the ball close to the opponents line ffs.
Its a waste he is not going to do anything.
 

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