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Round 5 Vs Cowboys

redVbull

Juniors
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128
Except for VH. No matter how shit he is for the dragons, he grows an extra leg when he plays for QLD
I'm wrestling with a theory that Gutho, Val and Cook achieved big $ NRL status from playing off class teammates, well coached structures and a fast and cohesive spines that delivered them the platform to showcase their talents.
Without which, at an outfit like the Dragons bereft of such attributes, we're not seeing anything like the form these guys showcased ... instead who are looking pretty ordinary.
A trap that Shane F. might have fallen into.
All that glitters isn't gold.
 
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I'm wrestling with a theory that Gutho, Val and Cook achieved big $ NRL status from playing off class teammates, well coached structures and a fast and cohesive spines that delivered them the platform to showcase their talents.
Without which, at an outfit like the Dragons bereft of such attributes, we're not seeing anything like the form these guys showcased ... instead who are looking pretty ordinary.
A trap that Shane F. might have fallen into.
All that glitters isn't gold.
Your theory definitely works for Cookie. Made his name by exploiting space created from quick play-the-balls of the Burgess brothers. Unless you've got three Burgesses in your team Cook is just run of the mill. Not sure your theory holds for the other two though. Gutho was like the energizer bunny of fullbacks, but his batteries have finally run out. Holmes was prodigiously talented, I think he's just older and less motivated now.
 

dragon thomo

Juniors
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1,481
Spot on Johno, Val is talented but is in retirement mode. Gutho game is effort, Cook relied on speed and effort off the back off quality front rowers, both Cook and Gutho need to retire. Honorable mention that are useless and need to be let go Tu, Toupaloto sorry spelling, Laurie, Kerr, Fale, Guler, Sloane.
I do believe Luciano is a keeper but only as a front rower as his defence is suspect on the edge. Suli would be a great impact in the back row off the bench.
 

jeffdragon

Bench
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4,656
Your theory definitely works for Cookie. Made his name by exploiting space created from quick play-the-balls of the Burgess brothers. Unless you've got three Burgesses in your team Cook is just run of the mill. Not sure your theory holds for the other two though. Gutho was like the energizer bunny of fullbacks, but his batteries have finally run out. Holmes was prodigiously talented, I think he's just older and less motivated now.
Then with a 3 man overlap he runs from dummy half.
 

SEAT 1A

Bench
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3,576
That was up there with the thrashing at Brooky in 94 and Storm in 2000.

I was in disbelief and happy to see that Hamish Stewart was the only player to chase a bomb we put up in the second half on their line.

Luc and Su'a had a dig and Liddle should have stayed on.
 

UDGE

Juniors
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120
How good were they without Kyle in the team . LKT WAS SENSATIONAL LOL . On a much more serious note we missed his defense in the middle massively . Cook is cooked . It's a worry throwing Reed to the wolves but no choice now . Sloan to fullback , Reed to 7 , Attikinson to 6 , Tu or Lawson and Peckam Harris on the wings ( he might be small but he's fast , extremely smart and defends like he's a foot taller ) Holmes and Suli in the centers with NT on the bench can cover center ( if Sloan is having a shocker could move Holmes to fullback NT to center) or in the forwards if needed there and he's a good defender . Liddle and Kyle 9 and 14 . Toby and Guler/ Sua and Halangahue / Stewart to start . Bench rotation KF , NT , LPT, Leilua , Sele , Kerr or Lawrie take your pick on those two lol FMD . As soon as Ryan is back move NT to Kerr and Lawrie's spot with them being left right out until unfortunately needed thru injury and when Egan comes back replace Leilua with him and Leilua pushes Sele out to once again cover injuries . I think this is our best team with what we have .
1 Sloan/ Holmes
2 Peckham Harris
3 Suli
4 Holmes/ NT
5 Tu/ Lawson
6 Attkinson
7 Reed
8 Guler
9 Liddle
10 T. Coachman
11 Sua
12 Halangahue
13 Stewart
14 KF
15 R . Coachman
16 Egan
17 LPT/ Leilua
18 LPT/ Leilua
19 NT
20 Sele
21 Tu/ Lawson
22 Lawrie
23 Kerr
But what would i know i'm just a lounge chair coach like a lot of others on here and probably not that good at it unlike some on here that consider themselves a genius . Some on here even have crystal balls and can predict the future . Some on here thru KF into the mix when venting about the cows game , not sure how that works but carry on as i'm sure you will . Go Dragons !!!!!!!!!
 

Dragons4me

Juniors
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1,707
How good were they without Kyle in the team . LKT WAS SENSATIONAL LOL . On a much more serious note we missed his defense in the middle massively . Cook is cooked . It's a worry throwing Reed to the wolves but no choice now . Sloan to fullback , Reed to 7 , Attikinson to 6 , Tu or Lawson and Peckam Harris on the wings ( he might be small but he's fast , extremely smart and defends like he's a foot taller ) Holmes and Suli in the centers with NT on the bench can cover center ( if Sloan is having a shocker could move Holmes to fullback NT to center) or in the forwards if needed there and he's a good defender . Liddle and Kyle 9 and 14 . Toby and Guler/ Sua and Halangahue / Stewart to start . Bench rotation KF , NT , LPT, Leilua , Sele , Kerr or Lawrie take your pick on those two lol FMD . As soon as Ryan is back move NT to Kerr and Lawrie's spot with them being left right out until unfortunately needed thru injury and when Egan comes back replace Leilua with him and Leilua pushes Sele out to once again cover injuries . I think this is our best team with what we have .
1 Sloan/ Holmes
2 Peckham Harris
3 Suli
4 Holmes/ NT
5 Tu/ Lawson
6 Attkinson
7 Reed
8 Guler
9 Liddle
10 T. Coachman
11 Sua
12 Halangahue
13 Stewart
14 KF
15 R . Coachman
16 Egan
17 LPT/ Leilua
18 LPT/ Leilua
19 NT
20 Sele
21 Tu/ Lawson
22 Lawrie
23 Kerr
But what would i know i'm just a lounge chair coach like a lot of others on here and probably not that good at it unlike some on here that consider themselves a genius . Some on here even have crystal balls and can predict the future . Some on here thru KF into the mix when venting about the cows game , not sure how that works but carry on as i'm sure you will . Go Dragons !!!!!!!!!

** Ignore. Goodbye! **

Goodbye!
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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8,439
Watching this game makes you wonder WTF did they do all pre-season? They played like they were strangers thrown on the park with no training sessions at all.

I feel for the youngsters like Couchman and Stewart to get booed off today as these 2 definitely do not deserve this. They are the only shining lights in this rabble. This just goes to show that the youth are the way to go as they play with much more heart. They may make errors but at least they can make up for it in the future with a solid performance. The old guys never look like they will ever have another good performance. The look like they are playing for a pay day. Just turn up and do the bare minimum to get their pay. Stat fillers. On Stats they look good with all these tackles and run meters in a loss which is becoming every game now.
 
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