Round three vs The Storm

[Girds89]

What do you mean by an extra point of attack? I think I know what you mean, but I can’t for the life see how that would work in our structure.

Its not like defences look at an attacking line and mark the “play makers”, it doesn’t work like that. Play with a 3rd “halve” would weaken our attack, quite significantly.

So unless you’ve got some sort of crazy attacking strategy in mind, it’s a bad idea

Burton has a fantastic running game is quite quick quick. He is a strong defender. Is tall and can offload.

Could easily come on at lock against tired forwards and asked to keep it direct and target tired markers.

Alternatively he could play on an edge.

To suggest its a crazy idea is ridiculous. He'd be great off the bench and just cause he plays halves in nsw cup doesn't mean he needs to come on and play a 3rd half in nrl. Plenty of ways to use him that doesn't require him to be a third half. Having said that, some of the times we looked most dangerous last season was when tmay came on and played that role!! And there is no doubt burton is a better half than tmay!!

 

[Luke Bowden]

Burton has a fantastic running game is quite quick quick. He is a strong defender. Is tall and can offload.

Could easily come on at lock against tired forwards and asked to keep it direct and target tired markers.

Alternatively he could play on an edge.

To suggest its a crazy idea is ridiculous. He'd be great off the bench and just cause he plays halves in nsw cup doesn't mean he needs to come on and play a 3rd half in nrl. Plenty of ways to use him that doesn't require him to be a third half. Having said that, some of the times we looked most dangerous last season was when tmay came on and played that role!! And there is no doubt burton is a better half than tmay!!

What has Burton done that makes him a better option at 14?

TMay is the best 14 in the comp, replacing the best player in a position with someone who is not better, is actually crazy.

There is no point guessing what Burton can do on an edge, he’s not done enough to demonstrate he’s worthy of replacing someone in our starting 17.

 

[WestyLife]

What has Burton done that makes him a better option at 14?

TMay is the best 14 in the comp, replacing the best player in a position with someone who is not better, is actually crazy.

There is no point guessing what Burton can do on an edge, he’s not done enough to demonstrate he’s worthy of replacing someone in our starting 17.

As someone who thinks Burton will become the next Fittler I agree with this.

 

[Girds89]

What has Burton done that makes him a better option at 14?

TMay is the best 14 in the comp, replacing the best player in a position with someone who is not better, is actually crazy.

There is no point guessing what Burton can do on an edge, he’s not done enough to demonstrate he’s worthy of replacing someone in our starting 17.

I never said he should replace tmay. He could certainly play a role off the bench like I said! You suggested it would be a bad idea to have him on the bench as a third half.

Burton hasn't been given the chance to fill that role but imo he could do a very good job. He is a different style to tmay and has many many strengths which tmay doesn't have.

 

[Kilkenny]

What has Burton done that makes him a better option at 14?

TMay is the best 14 in the comp, replacing the best player in a position with someone who is not better, is actually crazy.

There is no point guessing what Burton can do on an edge, he’s not done enough to demonstrate he’s worthy of replacing someone in our starting 17.

Opinions are wonderful things, sometimes people don’t share the same views or opinions, doesn’t mean there wrong, crazy etc etc.

I thought Girds was more about the positive attributes Burton may offer our team as opposed to taking Mays place.

We need to encourage new members, the more on here the merrier, perhaps, as opposed to stifling there points of view.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Sounds like Nathan is in a lot of doubt for the game. Unleash the Burton.

 

[herbert henry1908]

He had no choice but to go off. There is no chance the NRL doctor let’s him stay on, he was clearly rattled.

And further more, I don’t think he’s a dead set certain to play this week.

Does an NRL doctor make the call this year? It’s usually been a team doctor.

 

[franklin2323]

As someone who thinks Burton will become the next Fittler I agree with this.

Burton is too tall for hooker.

 

[franklin2323]

Does an NRL doctor make the call this year? It’s usually been a team doctor.

Yeah it changed to an independent one now. If you fail not sure what happens if the players passed it at the ground

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yeah it changed to an independent one now. If you fail not sure what happens if the players passed it at the ground

They really need an 18th man on the bench for concussions. Having an independent doctor is likely going to increase the amount of HIA’s.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Opinions are wonderful things, sometimes people don’t share the same views or opinions, doesn’t mean there wrong, crazy etc etc.

I thought Girds was more about the positive attributes Burton may offer our team as opposed to taking Mays place.

We need to encourage new members, the more on here the merrier, perhaps, as opposed to stifling there points of view.

Huh?? We were talking about the idea of Burton talking TMay place in the team.

 

[Luke Bowden]

I never said he should replace tmay. He could certainly play a role off the bench like I said! You suggested it would be a bad idea to have him on the bench as a third half.

Burton hasn't been given the chance to fill that role but imo he could do a very good job. He is a different style to tmay and has many many strengths which tmay doesn't have.

Sorry mate, we were talking about Burto replacing TMay. That’s what I’m referring to when I say it’s crazy to do that.

 

[franklin2323]

They really need an 18th man on the bench for concussions. Having an independent doctor is likely going to increase the amount of HIA’s.

They do that in NSW Cup now. Though to be used a player replaced by HIA can't play for 14 days. That part could mean 3 games missed in NRL

 

[Kilkenny]

Huh?? We were talking about the idea of Burton talking TMay place in the team.

I never read it that way in reference to the opinions expressed by Girds.

He made it rather clear I thought how highly he rates Tyrone May while at the same time talked up Burton’s potential value as a utility.

You obviously believe Tyrone May is the best 14 in the game, it is probably a view not shared by fans of other sides, or neutral fans given there are probably numerous candidates across the 16 sides who others may believe are the equal of our own Tyrone May or better. I have always said Tyrone is a naturally gifted player and I rate him highly, maybe not to the same degree as you do but that of course is purely down to ones opinion.

 

[Kilkenny]

Yeah it changed to an independent one now. If you fail not sure what happens if the players passed it at the ground

Has the HIA policy document released in February 2019 been updated or is there a newer version.

The one I’m reading is 9 pages long, but the most important parts, in respect of the Nathan Cleary situation, refer only to a Doctor, there does not appear to be any reference in respect of decisions being made by an Independent Doctor.

The NSWRL appear to have there own policy document which is dated in 2020. Again there does not appear to be any mention of decisions being made by independent Doctors, it just specifies a Doctor, including a GP who I guess may be independent?

The contents set out in page 8 of the ARL/NRL document appears to contain the information most relevant to Nathan Cleary.

 

[Luke Bowden]

I never read it that way in reference to the opinions expressed by Girds.

He made it rather clear I thought how highly he rates Tyrone May while at the same time talked up Burton’s potential value as a utility.

You obviously believe Tyrone May is the best 14 in the game, it is probably a view not shared by fans of other sides, or neutral fans given there are probably numerous candidates across the 16 sides who others may believe are the equal of our own Tyrone May or better. I have always said Tyrone is a naturally gifted player and I rate him highly, maybe not to the same degree as you do but that of course is purely down to ones opinion.

Girds weighed in on a discussion I was having with someone else regarding Burto being slotted into our starting 17 this week, even if Nathan is good to go.

My bad if I miss read it.

can you name a more versatile 14 in the NRL? Because neither myself or any of my mates, who support a variety of different clubs can.

 

[franklin2323]

Has the HIA policy document released in February 2019 been updated or is there a newer version.

The one I’m reading is 9 pages long, but the most important parts, in respect of the Nathan Cleary situation, refer only to a Doctor, there does not appear to be any reference in respect of decisions being made by an Independent Doctor.

The NSWRL appear to have there own policy document which is dated in 2020. Again there does not appear to be any mention of decisions being made by independent Doctors, it just specifies a Doctor, including a GP who I guess may be independent?

The contents set out in page 8 of the ARL/NRL document appears to contain the information most relevant to Nathan Cleary.

Yeah it changed last week or so. That says independent specialist

 

[Kilkenny]

can you name a more versatile 14 in the NRL? Because neither myself or any of my mates, who support a variety of different clubs can.

Do I have too. You and Girds whatever his username is were involved in a debate in which you for whatever reason took exception to his rather innocuous opinions. I largely only weighed in to support a new member, to encourage his in going participation on here and at the same time I didn’t read his posts as being suggestive of dropping TMay to include Matt Burton. Tyrone May is an ideal utility for us and I wouldn’t be dropping him for Matt Burton, none of us would. I’m not having a go at you just need to lighten up a bit on new members who probably aren’t used to the differences of opinions shared by the longer term members who largely are well aware of each other’s opinions and differences.

 

[WestyLife]

Do I have too. You and Girds whatever his username is were involved in a debate in which you for whatever reason took exception to his rather innocuous opinions. I largely only weighed in to support a new member, to encourage his in going participation on here and at the same time I didn’t read his posts as being suggestive of dropping TMay to include Matt Burton. Tyrone May is an ideal utility for us and I wouldn’t be dropping him for Matt Burton, none of us would. I’m not having a go at you just need to lighten up a bit on new members who probably aren’t used to the differences of opinions shared by the longer term members who largely are well aware of each other’s opinions and differences.

Shame Frog wasn't given the same courtesy by Girds eh.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Do I have too. You and Girds whatever his username is were involved in a debate in which you for whatever reason took exception to his rather innocuous opinions. I largely only weighed in to support a new member, to encourage his in going participation on here and at the same time I didn’t read his posts as being suggestive of dropping TMay to include Matt Burton. Tyrone May is an ideal utility for us and I wouldn’t be dropping him for Matt Burton, none of us would. I’m not having a go at you just need to lighten up a bit on new members who probably aren’t used to the differences of opinions shared by the longer term members who largely are well aware of each other’s opinions and differences.

did you actually read the thread?

I said that dropping May for Burton was crazy and he said that my comment was ridiculous.

I feel like you may have only read half the conversation.

and for the record, I think Burto would be great off the bench or in the halves, just not as good as our current 17, an injury in the halves or to May and he’s straight in.