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Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent - Lomax case settled

Wb1234

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That's 2 wingers and 2 centers.
That's the Wallabies tapped out for their NRL player requirements imo. Unless they think they can convert a forward in 12 months..
You're certainly not converting a half or fullback in that time.

It's actually a wonderful opportunity for NRL clubs if they're paying attention to the talent coming through that are stuck behind these 4 obvious choices.. looking at you Bears!!

I've got no problem with Criten going ect but I do take issue with players who are openly advocating for defection like Sualii is. He is using the NRL profile to draw attention to RU. If he wants to talk about how wonderful Union is, by all means.. talking up the possibly poaching NRL players..
That's the type of shit that should get you banned from returning or at least a fine upon return.

Cleary in a World Cup at Union would kill it

Reece too

Especially in union where the defence is average at best

Why pay suaali or Marky mark 900k to 1.7 million pay Cleary or Reece 2 to 3 million

The guys that touch the ball the most and have a real impact
 

astreizix

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Joseph Manu actual stats in the TOP 14 national competition, sor far 15 rounds.

11 games played / 6 started

589 minutes played on 1200 possible
Points scored:1 try
Tackles breaks: 17
Passes: 43
Races: 61
Meters traveled: 403.9
Line breaks: :4
Offloads: 10
Scratched balloons: 1
Interceptions; 5
Balls kicked: 8
Kicks metres: 160.3
Successful tackles: 75 (71% success)
7 Penalties conceded
1 Yellow card

On european challenge cup 1 game played (80') on 4 possible, 0 pt scored
46 Metres made
15 Carries
0 Clean breaks
4 Defenders beaten
6 Offloads
12 Passes
0 Try Assists
10 Tackles made
77% % Tackle success
0 Turnovers won

Rugby League no pain no gain Rugby Union less work more gain
 

Gobsmacked

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Cleary in a World Cup at Union would kill it

Reece too

Especially in union where the defence is average at best

Why pay suaali or Marky mark 900k to 1.7 million pay Cleary or Reece 2 to 3 million

The guys that touch the ball the most and have a real impact
Totally disagree. Understanding the complicated rules of Union and understanding specific tactics, understanding where fatigue, territory, what kick when, when to run..to run a team.. that's one thing and I don't know how long that takes ( depends on the person) then to execute that is a whole other thing.
You'd be spending 2 million for a season of SR just to see if it could be done!!

What Cleary does and what Reece does aren't in anyway transferable to Union - that's what makes Union shit.
 

Wb1234

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Totally disagree. Understanding the complicated rules of Union and understanding specific tactics, understanding where fatigue, territory, what kick when, when to run..to run a team.. that's one thing and I don't know how long that takes ( depends on the person) then to execute that is a whole other thing.
You'd be spending 2 million for a season of SR just to see if it could be done!!

What Cleary does and what Reece does aren't in anyway transferable to Union - that's what makes Union shit.
Sam burgess played centre for England in a World Cup

Their skill level is poor

Wingers hardly touch the ball hence why they in general earn the lowest money in nrl

Reece or Cleary could play exactly how they do in league and would be unstoppable

Johns was basically going to union had he gone he would’ve changed their game for the good
 

Gobsmacked

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Sam burgess played centre for England in a World Cup

Their skill level is poor

Wingers hardly touch the ball hence why they in general earn the lowest money in nrl

Reece or Cleary could play exactly how they do in league and would be unstoppable

Johns was basically going to union had he gone he would’ve changed their game for the good
There's 2 more players on the field, no fatigue, no retreating 10 meters and if you go for a run.. out on your own and caught, you lose possession...

There's a reason why their skills and speed is low- it's useless. It's a rubbish sport.

You're basically advocating for a farrari in Bali - waste.
 

Wb1234

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There's 2 more players on the field, no fatigue, no retreating 10 meters and if you go for a run.. out on your own and caught, you lose possession...

There's a reason why their skills and speed is low- it's useless. It's a rubbish sport.

You're basically advocating for a farrari in Bali - waste.
He gets the ball from a scrum and has to decide to run kick or pass

Sure feeding a union scrum will take some getting used too

Or plays second receiver and has more room

His kicking skills would be hugely valuable in kick n clap

Yes it’s a waste I’m just saying both players could carve it up and be way more useful than wingers / centre

Burgess picked up centre with zero experience

Played a handful of English club games before playing in a World Cup

Guy has minimal catching or passing skills

Farrell and too his knees were buggered and a league forward was a playmaker in union
 

taste2taste

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Joseph Manu actual stats in the TOP 14 national competition, sor far 15 rounds.

11 games played / 6 started

589 minutes played on 1200 possible
Points scored:1 try
Tackles breaks: 17
Passes: 43
Races: 61
Meters traveled: 403.9
Line breaks: :4
Offloads: 10
Scratched balloons: 1
Interceptions; 5
Balls kicked: 8
Kicks metres: 160.3
Successful tackles: 75 (71% success)
7 Penalties conceded
1 Yellow card

On european challenge cup 1 game played (80') on 4 possible, 0 pt scored
46 Metres made
15 Carries
0 Clean breaks
4 Defenders beaten
6 Offloads
12 Passes
0 Try Assists
10 Tackles made
77% % Tackle success
0 Turnovers won

Rugby League no pain no gain Rugby Union less work more gain
Are those good or bad stat's for union ?
 

astreizix

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Are those good or bad stat's for union ?
I don't really know but i think it's bad stat's for league :laughing:

Top 14 and european cup agregate
669 minutes played on 1520 possible, 44% of possible time used
Only 1 try scored
85 tackles made (1 tackle every 8 minutes)
26% missed tackle
55 passes (1 pass every 12 minutes)
16 offload ( 1 offload every 42 minutes)

This seems poor for a so-called big NRL star signing in union rank
 

BODISGOD

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That's 2 wingers and 2 centers.
That's the Wallabies tapped out for their NRL player requirements imo. Unless they think they can convert a forward in 12 months..
You're certainly not converting a half or fullback in that time.

It's actually a wonderful opportunity for NRL clubs if they're paying attention to the talent coming through that are stuck behind these 4 obvious choices.. looking at you Bears!!

I've got no problem with Criten going ect but I do take issue with players who are openly advocating for defection like Sualii is. He is using the NRL profile to draw attention to RU. If he wants to talk about how wonderful Union is, by all means.. talking up the possibly poaching NRL players..
That's the type of shit that should get you banned from returning or at least a fine upon return.
So what, there’s players who say the opposite when they go to league.
 

BODISGOD

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Joseph Manu actual stats in the TOP 14 national competition, sor far 15 rounds.

11 games played / 6 started

589 minutes played on 1200 possible
Points scored:1 try
Tackles breaks: 17
Passes: 43
Races: 61
Meters traveled: 403.9
Line breaks: :4
Offloads: 10
Scratched balloons: 1
Interceptions; 5
Balls kicked: 8
Kicks metres: 160.3
Successful tackles: 75 (71% success)
7 Penalties conceded
1 Yellow card

On european challenge cup 1 game played (80') on 4 possible, 0 pt scored
46 Metres made
15 Carries
0 Clean breaks
4 Defenders beaten
6 Offloads
12 Passes
0 Try Assists
10 Tackles made
77% % Tackle success
0 Turnovers won

Rugby League no pain no gain Rugby Union less work more gain
So in summary a rugby league superstar is a squad player in the Top 14.
 

BODISGOD

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Who ?

Marky mark was a nobody until league made him a star

The aru didn’t want to pay him 300k now he’s going to make over a million bc of the platform league has given him
A star in two Australian States. Pushing car dealerships and trash brands like Pointsbet, living the dream eh.

Headed back to rugby like so many others because there’s no equivalent to the Rugby World Cup. The ones who go back to the NRL are the likes of Matt Rogers when he wanted a quieter life or drug busts like Wendell.
 

Wb1234

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A star in two Australian States. Pushing car dealerships and trash brands like Pointsbet, living the dream eh.

Headed back to rugby like so many others because there’s no equivalent to the Rugby World Cup. The ones who go back to the NRL are the likes of Matt Rogers when he wanted a quieter life or drug busts like Wendell.

It’s the biggest rugby competition in the world

Put all those Mickey Mouse union club comps together and they don’t compete with the nrl

Plus most if not all the elite rugby players are in the nrl

The sport will soon turn over 1 billion pa and doesn’t need to get private equity deals to pay wages
 

Dark Corner

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A star in two Australian States. Pushing car dealerships and trash brands like Pointsbet, living the dream eh.

Headed back to rugby like so many others because there’s no equivalent to the Rugby World Cup. The ones who go back to the NRL are the likes of Matt Rogers when he wanted a quieter life or drug busts like Wendell.
The world of Rugby Union aside from France and Japan is caving in with record debts, falling crowds and grass roots etc...its going downhill.
 

BODISGOD

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It’s the biggest rugby competition in the world

Put all those Mickey Mouse union club comps together and they don’t compete with the nrl

Plus most if not all the elite rugby players are in the nrl

The sport will soon turn over 1 billion pa and doesn’t need to get private equity deals to pay wages
$1bn per year. Oh wowsers, the Rugby World Cup turns over more than that in six weeks ffs.

We’ll see how long the tv deals last anyway, major concentration risk.
 

BODISGOD

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The world of Rugby Union aside from France and Japan is caving in with record debts, falling crowds and grass roots etc...it’s going downhill.
You realise the population of those two countries alone is close to 200 million?

“Caving”- rugby is in quite a few different markets. Ups and downs are fairly normal.

Honestly the way some of you lot go on is incredibly cringe. Are you still puffing out your chest for the 1990s style hotel move?
 
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