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[Chins]

Rep Windows won't work.

It will totally devalue Tonga v Samoa having them play without thier origin players.

Who would NZ play ? Fly England over to get belted 3-0 every year ? Who's going to watch that ?

And pausing the NRL season for a month is a bad idea.

Pausing is the only way I think. Play the silly state game 3 weeks in a row, im sick of it ruining 2 months of the NRL season

 

[taste2taste]

If anything orign might lose the islander players and that’s not a bad thing either

Origin will never lose the islander players while its the pinnacle of the sport and match payments are 30k a game compared to 3k a game.

If you play Tonga v Samoa without thier Origin players it loses its a appeal to a mass audience. Remember not long ago without Origin players these games were getting 15k at Campbelltown stadium.

 

[Chins]

Origin will never lose the islander players while its the pinnacle of the sport and match payments are 30k a game compared to 3k a game.

If you play Tonga v Samoa without thier Origin players it loses its a appeal to a mass audience. Remember not long ago without Origin players these games were getting 15k at Campbelltown stadium.

Can't sell the myth its the pinnacle without them

 

[Wb1234]

Origin will never lose the islander players while its the pinnacle of the sport and match payments are 30k a game compared to 3k a game.

If you play Tonga v Samoa without thier Origin players it loses its a appeal to a mass audience. Remember not long ago without Origin players these games were getting 15k at Campbelltown stadium.

I would pay everyone equally origin and test stars

 

[BuffaloRules]

I see Union is trying to get an All Blacks v Wallabies game on Anzac Day, they'll probably beat us to it.

Yawn…

One sided garbage…

 

[marlins2.0]

NZ Government should be throwing in cash to the Islands not us...

They fund the Moana Pasifika RU side, and those grants have been under scrutiny recently regarding what the money is being used for.

 

[taste2taste]

Yawn…

One sided garbage…

As a fan of international footy i thinks its a big opportunity lost. On a day when everyone is feeling patriotic a Kiwis v Kangaroos test match would easily sell out Suncorp and pull a tv audience of 2 million and we could still have the traditional Anzac NRL clubs games.

Rugby Australia Chair Phil Waugh recently said a Wallabies v All Blacks game on Anzac Day is a "no brainer" They'll play in front of a sold out Suncorp to a large TV audience..... an opportunity league had but wasted.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Rugby Australia Chair Phil Waugh recently said a Wallabies v All Blacks game on Anzac Day is a "no brainer" They'll play in front of a sold out Suncorp to a large TV audience..... an opportunity league had but wasted.

I doubt the Union game will have a large TV audience in Australia competing directly against NRL and AFL games…

The NRL get sold out games and large TV audiences on the day already… so I wouldnt necessarily say they are wasting anything ..

 

[Captain Apollo]

As a fan of international footy i thinks its a big opportunity lost. On a day when everyone is feeling patriotic a Kiwis v Kangaroos test match would easily sell out Suncorp and pull a tv audience of 2 million and we could still have the traditional Anzac NRL clubs games.

Rugby Australia Chair Phil Waugh recently said a Wallabies v All Blacks game on Anzac Day is a "no brainer" They'll play in front of a sold out Suncorp to a large TV audience..... an opportunity league had but wasted.

For league, club games make far more commercial sense. You can have multiple games, in multiple locations. Having a Test alone means only having 1 game instead of 3-4. If you tried playing a Test match with clkub games, what oddss the club games would be affected by rep selections? Sorry its a daft idea in my book.

Quite frankly, Phil Waugh and the ARU cxan do what they want. If I look at what the ARU has done, what the ARLC/NRL has done, and the financial positions of the two, I'd be completely not following the plan that union are following. Unless I want to see my favoured sport go bankrupt.

 

[taste2taste]

If you tried playing a Test match with clkub games, what oddss the club games would be affected by rep selections? Sorry its a daft idea in my book.

We have 6 rounds per season dissrupted by Origin but we can't have 1 round for a test match ?

Club games are great for the fans of those 6 clubs but a test match has the opportunity to engage 2 countries.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

Those 2 countries being Australia and NZ? The 2 countries that provide the NRLs biggest audience base already?

Pretty sure playing club games on ANZAC Day, especially the Easts v St George game, will provide the same if not a bigger crowd and audience than a 1 off test match

 

[Kurt Angle]

We just had the most successful international window of all time last October/November

Now isn't the time to be changing it

 

[Dogs Of War]

For league, club games make far more commercial sense. You can have multiple games, in multiple locations. Having a Test alone means only having 1 game instead of 3-4. If you tried playing a Test match with clkub games, what oddss the club games would be affected by rep selections? Sorry its a daft idea in my book.

Quite frankly, Phil Waugh and the ARU cxan do what they want. If I look at what the ARU has done, what the ARLC/NRL has done, and the financial positions of the two, I'd be completely not following the plan that union are following. Unless I want to see my favoured sport go bankrupt.

Yep. The ARU would be better off working out how to get games like Tahs v Blues and Reds v Hurricanes so they have Aus v NZ games in both countries.

 

[Captain Apollo]

We have 6 rounds per season dissrupted by Origin but we can't have 1 round for a test match ?

Club games are great for the fans of those 6 clubs but a test match has the opportunity to engage 2 countries.

Oh yes, as those club based ANZAC Day matches get so little interest from the general viewing public or fans of the non-participating clubs. The TV ratings for them, and the at ground attendance for the matches must be pretty dire then eh

 

[Dogs Of War]

Oh yes, as those club based ANZAC Day matches get so little interest from the general viewing public or fans of the non-participating clubs. The TV ratings for them, and the at ground attendance for the matches must be pretty dire then eh

There was a case for a stand alone match 25yrs ago with Aus v NZ when we were playing that match before Origin. But that ship has sailed and I think the club footy version works so much better as an event day.

 

[Valheru]

Why anyone would want to change ANZAC Day is beyond me.

We had the ANZAC Test for over a decade, it was even played on ANZAC Day once and no one gave a shit because it was a misplaced one off match. The strength of international footy is as a series or even better a tournament.

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

Rugby Australia Chair Phil Waugh recently said a Wallabies v All Blacks game on Anzac Day is a "no brainer" They'll play in front of a sold out Suncorp to a large TV audience..... an opportunity league had but wasted.

I’d take RA’s views on this with a grain of salt. Right now they’ll support just about anything that makes money and despite Waugh's rhetoric, this is all about revenue.

Not that NZR are in a position to be too picky themselves, but they're very conscious of compromising an already struggling SR, while also knowing they can still comfortably sell revenue tests later in the year.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Pausing is the only way I think. Play the silly state game 3 weeks in a row, im sick of it ruining 2 months of the NRL season

The best way is the one Wayne Bennett said. Play the matches 10 days apart. First on a Wednesday, then Sunday week, then Wednesday week for the decider. Have a squad of 22-4 players who all stand down from club matches. All teams get a bye during this period. At best players only miss one club game (If they are asked to backup the week after the last Origin). The match on a Sunday can be a bye for all clubs, and have whatever other events like a Women's state of Origin on the weekend Origin is on the Sunday night.

Gives the series more intensity rather than drawing it out as long as it does now.

 

[BuffaloRules]

The best way is the one Wayne Bennett said. Play the matches 10 days apart. First on a Wednesday, then Sunday week, then Wednesday week for the decider. Have a squad of 22-4 players who all stand down from club matches. All teams get a bye during this period. At best players only miss one club game (If they are asked to backup the week after the last Origin). The match on a Sunday can be a bye for all clubs, and have whatever other events like a Women's state of Origin on the weekend Origin is on the Sunday night.

Gives the series more intensity rather than drawing it out as long as it does now.

I like the idea and it seems to pass the common sense test…

Didn’t they try already though and then went back to the more drawn out series? Someone mustn’t have liked it…assume the broadcaster

 

[Dogs Of War]

I like the idea and it seems to pass the common sense test…

Didn’t they try already though and then went back to the more drawn out series? Someone mustn’t have liked it…assume the broadcaster

I get the reasons for extending it so much. It gives the press loads of stuff to talk about for 6 weeks. I just would prefer that the focus is on that event for the 4 weeks with a few club games on the side (Thats 4 weeks with teams going into what I would presume is a 30 day camp, plus selection articles leading into it).

I would like to see the impact of origin on teams lessen and as you said, it's the common sense approach. Wayne has been around the game for donkeys and he believes this is the best way, and a camp like this just makes so much sense. It will still dominate the headlines during this period, while all teams get a nice little rest for 2 weeks to freshen up their squads.

I also like an idea that I can't remember who proposed it, but each day 2 players from each squad should be presented to the press to help promote the game and give the journo's something to talk about except on match day and potentially the day after the match. You wouldn't be able to repeat the same players until you have cycled through them all to stop hiding players. That was the problem with origin last year. No one in those teams assisting in promoting the game so we got the whole Aaron Woods drama created by the press.

Only problems arise when we have an uneven number of teams like this year, cause it would mean a team would have to have either 2 byes in that period, or play twice in that period.