Rumoured and Confirmed Signings with added crap - XXVI

[hineyrulz]

I already said it wasn't Hayne's fault, but at his price he should've been a big part of the solution. Instead he clocked off after Origin and made sure he got himself fit for the World Cup.

The coach is just as much to blame and anybody. Melbourne can afford to pay for 3 marquee players but we couldn't afford one???? Hayne wasn't the problem but the coach and the team we put around him was.

 

[bartman]

Admitting you have 3 usernames and then laughing at others. Oh Dear!! :lol:

And the big deal is? I don't even look at the user names of the comments on here. Couldn't care less about the identities, and can't be arsed remembering anything from the time I log off... :lol: "Oh dear" to those who take it all too seriously ;-).

 

[bartman]

The coach is just as much to blame and anybody. Melbourne can afford to pay for 3 marquee players but we couldn't afford one???? Hayne wasn't the problem but the coach and the team we put around him was.

Poor Jarryd... robbed of a premiership by the coaches/club and their poor recruitment etc. :sarcasm:

A premiership that even Jarryd admitted he wasn't inspired to strive for (had achieved everything there was to achieve in rugby league).

Jarryd can do no wrong etc etc. Go the 49ers! :crazy:

 

[hineyrulz]

Poor Jarryd... robbed of a premiership by the coaches/club and their poor recruitment etc. :sarcasm:

A premiership that even Jarryd admitted he wasn't inspired to strive for (had achieved everything there was to achieve in rugby league).

Jarryd can do no wrong etc etc. Go the 49ers! :crazy:

:lol: My god what a bitter little hater you are. Thank goodness you don't take this place too serious as the rest of us, you might have to make at least 6 usernames...........

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The coach is just as much to blame and anybody. Melbourne can afford to pay for 3 marquee players but we couldn't afford one????

Melbourne cheated the cap you f**ken idiot! Do you need me to provide links?!? :lol:

Hayne wasn't the problem but the coach and the team we put around him was.

So we overpaid for his teammates but not for him? Here's a tip - any player who misses 21 games in two years is overpaid.

And four successive coaches miss the finals with Hayne in their team? They must all be shit hey?

 

[hineyrulz]

Melbourne cheated the cap you f**ken idiot! Do you need me to provide links?!? :lol:



So we overpaid for his teammates but not for him? Here's a tip - any player who misses 21 games in two years is overpaid.

And four successive coaches miss the finals with Hayne in their team? They must all be shit hey?

Have they been cheating the cap since 2011???

And well yes ;-)

In 2010 i thought Hayne was better then he was in 2009, in 2011 it was a miracle we avoided the spoon. Worst Parra squad ever, Hayne getting injured was no ones fault it cost your best bud Kearney his job. if he stayed injury free we would of won enough games to give him another season. 2013 again no ones fault injuries happen and in 2014 he was the best player in the game and us missing the finals was not his fault. But yeah talk down Hayne just to prove your two good forward and Foran is a better fit for us then Hayne. Holy shit you are Bart/Phantom :lol:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Have they been cheating the cap since 2011???

Those three players were never going to leave after being paid a fortune for all those previous years and then 'suffering' as 'victims' together when their premierships were stripped. It doesn't matter if they were under the cap in later years - the squad was assembled (including those three) while they were cheating the cap. That's when their loyalty was bought and paid for.

And at least they have stayed loyal to their club, unlike another superstar we know. He couldn't get out of here quick enough. Yeah I'm sure his salary demands were reasonable the whole time he was here. :roll:

And well yes ;-)

In 2010 i thought Hayne was better then he was in 2009, in 2011 it was a miracle we avoided the spoon. Worst Parra squad ever, Hayne getting injured was no ones fault it cost your best bud Kearney his job. if he stayed injury free we would of won enough games to give him another season. 2013 again no ones fault injuries happen and in 2014 he was the best player in the game and us missing the finals was not his fault. But yeah talk down Hayne just to prove your two good forward and Foran is a better fit for us then Hayne. Holy shit you are Bart/Phantom :lol:

I made that statement because I saw that's what we were lacking - toughness and leadership, especially in the forwards. It doesn't matter how good your fullback is when your defensive line is timid and full of holes. But when your pack is strong you can even win a premiership with Lachlan Coote or a 40 year old Anthony Minichiello.

 

[hineyrulz]

So it was Haynes fault or the coaches and recruitment???

 

[Bigfella]

I don't buy Bart's explanation for why he doesn't like Jarrod. I remember when we were on the run in 2009 and Jarryd was pretty much man of the match every week. Bart came up with reasona not to give him three points most weeks. At least that's my recollection. It's a long time ago. If anyone can take us to the thread it would make interesting reading I think. Although individual's votes would be in the separate match threads I guess. Pretty sure that was a really off him at that stage.

My feeling was that he didn't like Hayne because he was linked to some press suggesting he was critical of da as coach. Either that or because the run in 2009 somehow boosted the profile of 3p and gave them a short term veneer of bringing success. That was my take at the time.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So it was Haynes fault or the coaches and recruitment???

They were all linked weren't they? I'm sure Hayne contributed to undermining a couple of his coaches, and the coaches were limited in their ability to recruit due to having Hayne on the books.

If we agree that we were in a position where we had to pay overs for players, we needed to save money wherever we could. A very expensive fullback was one area we could have saved heaps of money. How much do you reckon Coote or Grandpa Minichiello were on when they won premierships? Less than half what Hayne was on, IMO. I'm sure Inglis, Slater and Stewart were on less than him too. Twenty one year old Dally M winners aren't cheap.

 

[Fanbase]

I think we've signed enough players........ah ok maybe one more centre......or Hayne.

 

[yy_cheng]

Those three players were never going to leave after being paid a fortune for all those previous years and then 'suffering' as 'victims' together when their premierships were stripped. It doesn't matter if they were under the cap in later years - the squad was assembled (including those three) while they were cheating the cap. That's when their loyalty was bought and paid for.

And at least they have stayed loyal to their club, unlike another superstar we know. He couldn't get out of here quick enough. Yeah I'm sure his salary demands were reasonable the whole time he was here. :roll:



I made that statement because I saw that's what we were lacking - toughness and leadership, especially in the forwards. It doesn't matter how good your fullback is when your defensive line is timid and full of holes. But when your pack is strong you can even win a premiership with Lachlan Coote or a 40 year old Anthony Minichiello.

I thought cronk didn't get the brown paper bag and hence was pissed off. It was gi who got it and crocker

 

[Gary Gutful]

Years??? :lol: You were pretty much pegged as Phanton from the start. My guess is Wise Old Eel, but that old merkin probably died so you are really Suity.

Wise Old Eel.

I remember that merkin. Wasn't particularly wise from memory.

 

[Gary Gutful]

And the big deal is? I don't even look at the user names of the comments on here. Couldn't care less about the identities, and can't be arsed remembering anything from the time I log off... :lol: "Oh dear" to those who take it all too seriously ;-).

That is the biggest load of horse plop that I have ever read.

At least be honest with yourself Labyrinth boy.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I thought cronk didn't get the brown paper bag and hence was pissed off. It was gi who got it and crocker

Wasn't Cronk doing appearances in the sponsors tent and being paid above and beyond for it?

 

[Gary Gutful]

I'm sure Inglis, Slater and Stewart were on less than him too. Twenty one year old Dally M winners aren't cheap.

What about fullbacks that keep missing the finals despite the efforts of four successive coaches? They must be pretty cheap.

 

[hineyrulz]

That is the biggest load of horse plop that I have ever read.

At least be honest with yourself Labyrinth boy.

:lol:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What about fullbacks that keep missing the finals despite the efforts of four successive coaches? They must be pretty cheap.

Maybe that's why more successful clubs consistently refused to match our offer?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Maybe that's why more successful clubs consistently refused to match our offer?

Didn't you just say that he 'isn't cheap'?

How can you argue that he 'isn't cheap' but also assert that we paid overs for him and that 'successful' clubs don't value him as highly? Seems incongruous.

 

[emjaycee]

I don't profess to know as much about RL as some of the experts on here, but my take on it is pretty simple and kind of justifies both arguments/points of view about Hayne and his lack of premiership success to-date.

RL is a team sport and effectively there are 4 components to it and 3 of those are offence (the 4th is obviously defence).
1. You need a strong forward pack that while it not always "win the ruck" it does make enough meterage to sometimes upset the defensive structure of the opposition and create an opportunity for the offence. This may be an off-load, a quick play the ball, lots of things can create this.
2. You need smart halves (at least one of them must be smart - the other can be a worker but the combination includes "smart"). By smart I mean someone able to read the play and make a decision on where and how to attack in whatever opportunity the forwards have created.
3. You need finishers in the backs, including the fullback. This can be speed, strength, good passing, whatever - your backs need to be able to react to whatever the halves decide to do and react well. They also have the chance to create more opportunity which is where Hayne was excellent, with his acceleration, swerve, long passing game, kick and chase, etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately for Jarryd and us long-suffering fans, until 2016 we haven't had the mix of forwards that can create, halves that can decide and backs that can finish. Hopefully we do now.

And before I get flamed, yes - in the modern game, the backs help the forwards ruck it out and the edge forward is part of the backs in a lot of offensive moves but you know what I mean so no need to be an ass about it.

** ends Saturday morning soapbox **