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eels_fan

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Parramatta have vowed the player options that could result in star halves Dylan Brown and Mitchell Moses walking out on the club early will never again be allowed in future contracts.
The Eels are sweating on a decision on Brown, who under the terms of his contract has until round 10 to sign with a rival from next year, despite having a deal with the blue and golds until 2031. Even if he decides not to exercise it, Brown has another get-out option he could trigger in two years’ time.
It means that even if the Kiwi international recommits now, the circus currently surrounding his next career move could repeat itself just as new cashed-up franchises enter the competition.
Halves partner Moses also has an option in his favour that could result in him being on the move before his contract expires. So too Will Penisini, whose future beyond this year remains uncertain.

Brown is on a deal worth $975,000 for this year, rising to $1.1 million a season thereafter should he remain an Eel. The Knights are considering whether to table an offer that would blow Parramatta out of the water amid suggestions it could take as much as $13 million over 10 years to lure him away from the Eels.
It’s a huge sum for a player who didn’t even make this masthead’s list of the top 50 players in the game.
The issue of player options was raised at a Parramatta member forum, fronted by new coach Jason Ryles, new chairman Matthew Beach, chief executive Jim Sarantinos and head of football Mark O’Neill.
“This is obviously a topic that’s had a lot of coverage,” Sarantinos told the gathering of 250 Eels members.
“We have three players on our list at the moment with player options. You have Dylan and Will Penisini with player options for 2026 and that option needs to be exercised by round 10. The third player is Mitchell Moses, his option is in relation to 2027, so Mitch is tied up for ’25-26 with us. His option is to be exercised by the 31st of October, so that’s at the end of this season.


We are obviously in active discussions with the managers to try to work through those situations and get them resolved as quickly as possible. We’d like them to be resolved quite soon, but they have a contractual entitlement to exercise it at the time it’s in the contract.
“What I would say is those three players, they have all come through our system, they are much loved by everyone at the club. I know they have a passion and desire for the club, I’d like to think they will be here for the long term and play out their careers at the club. That’s something we’re working through with their managers. I can’t tell you when it’s going to be resolved or how it’s going to be resolved.
“That’s an impossible question to answer. I’m hopeful it will land in our favour.”
Beach, in his first public address since succeeding previous chairman Sean McElduff, added: “This is a really important topic. There are three additional points I’d like to make more broadly in relation to player options.

“The first point is we haven’t entered into a player contract that has an option for about two years; May 2023 was the last time we entered into a contract with a player option.
“Point two, since that time we’ve signed or retained 22 to 24 players since [then] without issuing player options.
“Thirdly, we will not be issuing player options going forward.”
The last comment was met with a round of applause from the Eels faithful.
In a recent interview with this masthead, Penisini said he was likely to stay put.

The forum was also an opportunity for Ryles to engage with the fans, who were keen for a prediction on how the team would perform this season.
“My learnings over time are, don’t put expectations or limitations on yourself,” Ryles said.

“The biggest thing for us is to build the culture; we make sure that’s a living, breathing thing with you guys [the fans] involved in it.
“Then we work on the way we play and improving on that every day when we go out on the footy field.

“Where is that going to land us? I don’t want to put a ceiling on it, but I do know the best living case study at the moment is the Bulldogs. They got the latest and greatest coach in there [Cameron Ciraldo], and they nearly ran last in the first year.
“That’s just the reality of the competition. I don’t want us to do that, and I hope that doesn’t happen to us, that’s definitely not the plan. I don’t have any limitations or expectations, I just want to build a strong culture [where] the players come to work every day and they know they are in an environment where they can get better.
“That will hopefully translate into some good performances on the field and good results.”


 

Poupou Escobar

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“The first point is we haven’t entered into a player contract that has an option for about two years; May 2023 was the last time we entered into a contract with a player option.
“Point two, since that time we’ve signed or retained 22 to 24 players since [then] without issuing player options.
So we've gone completely downhill since we stopped issuing player options? Must be coincidence.
“Thirdly, we will not be issuing player options going forward.”
The last comment was met with a round of applause from the Eels faithful.
Well I guess you need to keep the 'faithful' happy at these events. Now they will think their favourite players will never be off contract again.
 
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“We will not be issuing player options moving forward” . We are not a smart club anymore 🤣. This is going to upset a couple on here.

It's pretty dumb to say you'll never do it. Well, actually, it might be smart to say that to a room of Telegraph-reading bogans. But to actually rule out the choice to use options in negotiations would be pretty dumb. People confuse the problem of doing something too frequently, with exercicse dates that are too late, and with insufficient regard for the rest of the roster position with the contractual form itself. Moses' option, for example, considered alone presents very few problems (he has to make his mind up 1 day before he would be free to negotiate with other clubs), and if that helped retain his services, few would argue.
 

Pazza

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“We will not be issuing player options moving forward” . We are not a smart club anymore 🤣. This is going to upset a couple on here.

Thats it folks

I'd like to thank all the other forum members who could see through the bullshit, it's been a grind boys but we got there in the end
 

Poupou Escobar

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Moses' option, for example, considered alone presents very few problems (he has to make his mind up 1 day before he would be free to negotiate with other clubs), and if that helped retain his services, few would argue.
They would, because he would be off contract and free to negotiate with rivals, and thanks to the media, merkins would think it was because of the option, not just because he was off contract like any other player.
 

King-Gutho94

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It's pretty dumb to say you'll never do it. Well, actually, it might be smart to say that to a room of Telegraph-reading bogans.
What a ridiculous comment to say about Parramatta fans.

Your kidding yourself if you think Parramatta fans are telegraph reading bogans.

I am assuming you obivously didn't attend the forum neither did I.

But it sounds like it must have been too bogan for you obivously.

Oh and btw Penrith don't do any POs and how have they gone in the past 5 years.

And I believe history has them winning 4 premierships in a row
 

Poupou Escobar

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What a ridiculous comment to say about Parramatta fans.

Your kidding yourself if you think Parramatta fans are telegraph reading bogans.

I am assuming you obivously didn't attend the forum neither did I.

But it sounds like it must have been too bogan for you obivously.

Oh and btw Penrith don't do any POs and how have they gone in the past 5 years.

And I believe history has them winning 4 premierships in a row
So if they don't win any premierships playing out of Parramatta Stadium will that prove nobody should play out of Parramatta Stadium?
 

Avenger

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Hopefully we don't have to pay too much extra.
I've criticised Pou about options before, but he has a point here. The only reason it was offered was to secure the player at a better price. Essentially, the player sacrifices some money in exchange for flexibility. It's easy to call it a bad move now, but imagine if we had lost Moses just because we didn't offer him an option.
 
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What a ridiculous comment to say about Parramatta fans.

Your kidding yourself if you think Parramatta fans are telegraph reading bogans.

I am assuming you obivously didn't attend the forum neither did I.

But it sounds like it must have been too bogan for you obivously.

Oh and btw Penrith don't do any POs and how have they gone in the past 5 years.

And I believe history has them winning 4 premierships in a row

Yep, way too bogan for me (as I sit in my tracky daks and uggs). But no, we have the most exciteable fans on the planet, and the tabloid press know this. But hell, if not doing PO's leads to you winning 4 premierships in a row, we are dead certs from now on. QED.
 
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