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I have thought for a while that instead of investigating just players they should also look into the Refs, yes they are going to make errors but some errors really leave you wondering.
If you wanted to fix a match the ref can have just as great outcome towards it as the players do, infact the refs can decide more than the players if the give penalties at certain times and award tries that look iffy without sending them upstairs as they did in the manly newcastle game yesterday.
Why don't they check the refs out?
 

Bazal

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Just watching NSW cup and having a look at Dave Taylor purely because he's been mentioned by one or two posters as someone we should look at. Playing prop, he's had three runs in the fifteen mins I've watched, all at centres and halves who have stopped him easily except just now where he steam rolled Te Maire Martin from 3m out and scored. Yet to make a tackle. Standing outside the left back rower in defence and bludging with his hands on his knees for 90% of the time. Plus he looks like he swallowed Junior Paulo whole.

In short, classic Dave Taylor, still do not want
 

strider

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I have thought for a while that instead of investigating just players they should also look into the Refs, yes they are going to make errors but some errors really leave you wondering.
If you wanted to fix a match the ref can have just as great outcome towards it as the players do, infact the refs can decide more than the players if the give penalties at certain times and award tries that look iffy without sending them upstairs as they did in the manly newcastle game yesterday.
Why don't they check the refs out?
Who says they dont? ..... im sure refs sign the same, "i shall not bet on games" contract players do
 

TheRam

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What a waste of money to sign either Pearl Jam or the Foos. The game is hemorrhaging money, all the stake holders are holding out their hands for more of it, the ARLC is being forced to get a bridging loan to pay it debts, but by all means, go into further debt so as to look good and to win some pathetic pissing contest with the AFL.

The players should be told to go to hell and the clubs to follow them there with the NSWRL and QLDRL.

The game is dying a slow and uneventful death. I don't think I have cared less about a season of foot in my entire life. Not due to the quality of the game itself, which has been very high overall, but the lack of atmosphere at so many grounds and the constant white anting of the game at all levels by each groups separate vested interest and agendas.

I find myself watching less and less. Like this week, haven't watched a game yet. Which for me is unheard of if I'm not working, I'm watching as much as possible normally. But I'm finding that my 40 odd years of tolerance of a sport I love/loved, being run into the ground is wearing a bit thin and life is to short and precious to always be angry at career opportunists and imbeciles tearing it apart at all levels and implementing no positive direction for the future of the game whatsoever.

What a failed missed opportunity the great game of Rugby League is. It will end up as a cautionary tale for all other professional sports the world over on what not to do, of that I'm sure.

Like I have said on many occasion, time has basically run out for RL, AFL has won. We, and by we, I mean most of us on this forum, and those who are now over 30, don't count. We are are more or less rusted on. We will probably never embrace AFL, but we don't matter. The next generation and the next after that will make AFL KING of the sporting landscape bar none. Over the next 20 odd years, AFL will dwarf NRL playing numbers in all states, bar QLD and maybe be close to equal in NSW. And as we all know, when you grow up playing a sport, that generally ends up being your favourite sport and the sport you invest most of your time in watching and money on. Especially when it is promoted so well, massive new stadiums and crowds and all the media is promoting the shit out of it. It will leave very little room for any other sport to get a look in.

Then after the next 20 years, league will be to AFL what Yawnion is to to league in Australia right now, irrelevant.

I mean, I still shake my head at how, no one is asking at any level, ARLC, clubs, or media, how come after a quarter of a century and tens of millions of dollars later, that the Melbourne Storm, haven't produced ONE, not ONE bona fide true junior that isn't of islander or of Maori decent and of those in a city of 4+ million, they have just produce three. Three! Three, they should have produced at least 30 of them at the very least by now.

Well I obviously still love the game as is evident by me even bothering to write this rant in the first place and will definitely watch Parra play tonight, but as stated, I have lost/losing that passion. I'm just sick of watching empty stadiums and non atmosphere events knowing it is all self inflicted and there is no light in sight.

Rant over.
 

Bazal

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The Ram said:
the Melbourne Storm, haven't produced ONE, not ONE bona fide true junior that isn't of islander or of Maori decent

What have you got against Islanders? Racist
 

TheRam

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NRL's head in the sand as we enter the era of sports globalisation
Steve Mascord

Professional sport elsewhere is already decades beyond the era of nationalisation, as the NRL plans to give existing clubs in a non-national competition more say in its future direction.

The Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles in 1957. South Melbourne became the Sydney Swans in 1982. Yet rugby league shut down franchises in Perth in 1997 and Adelaide in 1998, has no plans to go back, and now existing teams with a vested interest in hoarding the sport's revenue are about to be given seats on what was an "independent" commission.

Nationalisation is an established policy in other pro sports. They have long since moved on to internationalisation and we stand at the cusp of an epoch that will threaten many sporting leagues: globalisation.

Internationalisation, which sees basketball and ice hockey in the US embrace all of North America, which saw American Football toy with a failed European League, which brought us Super Rugby and the New Zealand Warriors, is close to reaching its natural commercial conclusion.

The difference between internationalisation and globalisation from rugby league's point of view is very important. Internationalisation involves satellite leagues in many countries, with increasing intercompetition such as the European Champions League and our World Club Challenge. Where the sport is strong in one territory and weak in another, or one country is richer than another, outpost franchises may be formed. Rugby league was richer in Sydney than Brisbane, so the Broncos joined the Sydney competition.


Globalisation comes in over the top of this process with giant brands that engulf everything in their paths: the Premier League, the NFL, the NBA and MLB. It is logical, predictable evolution. For any local business, including sports franchises and competitions, staving off this clear societal change is difficult and becoming more so.

Under globalisation, local versions of the same sport will struggle to compete with the big brands, the way Henny Penny failed to stave off KFC. Sports which themselves are local peculiarities will find the task even harder - like the Chiko Roll fighting against the Subway sandwich.

Discord would argue that the NBA to young Australians in 2017 is what the NSWRL was to Queenslanders in 1987 – distant, glamorous, wealthy, visionary. But with a bit of planning, evolution can become cultural imperialism.

It seems that scarcely a week goes by when one colleague or another is not in the US at a major sporting event. The doors are flung open to them and they get to speak to iconic athletes one-on-one, while their workmates back home struggle to get 10 minutes with the back-up halfback at an NRL club.

What is the NRL doing to push back? Globalisation is a train; you're either on board or you're not. Where are the American reporters coming here to see the sport that, in 2025, is supposed to be having its World Cup in their homeland? How often does anyone at the NRL speak to their US and British rights holders, Fox Soccer Plus and Premier TV? What promotions are being done involving players and clubs to help these broadcasters feel they have an investment in the sport, the way ESPN does when it promotes the NBA in Australia?

Clint Gutherson's post-try celebration last week was an imitation of NBA star Steph Curry. Would Ron Hilditch have been able to name a single NBA star?

Most importantly, do we continue to assume that because your kids still like their NRL, their kids will if they live in an age when the big global sporting brands come to town once a year, when the NFL has a team in London, and today's free-to-air TV channels are nothing but a historical curiosity? If they are watching sport on their mobile or via a wireless transmission straight into their cerebral cortex, will they really want to watch something between two suburbs played in front of 9000 people?

But don't worry about all that, NRL clubs. You're about to get a seat on the independent commission and 130 per cent of your wages bill paid by head office.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-of-sports-globalisation-20170607-gwmrxb.html

Steve Mascord is spot on again with this one.
 

El Diablo

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What a waste of money to sign either Pearl Jam or the Foos. The game is hemorrhaging money, all the stake holders are holding out their hands for more of it, the ARLC is being forced to get a bridging loan to pay it debts, but by all means, go into further debt so as to look good and to win some pathetic pissing contest with the AFL.

The players should be told to go to hell and the clubs to follow them there with the NSWRL and QLDRL.

The game is dying a slow and uneventful death. I don't think I have cared less about a season of foot in my entire life. Not due to the quality of the game itself, which has been very high overall, but the lack of atmosphere at so many grounds and the constant white anting of the game at all levels by each groups separate vested interest and agendas.

I find myself watching less and less. Like this week, haven't watched a game yet. Which for me is unheard of if I'm not working, I'm watching as much as possible normally. But I'm finding that my 40 odd years of tolerance of a sport I love/loved, being run into the ground is wearing a bit thin and life is to short and precious to always be angry at career opportunists and imbeciles tearing it apart at all levels and implementing no positive direction for the future of the game whatsoever.

What a failed missed opportunity the great game of Rugby League is. It will end up as a cautionary tale for all other professional sports the world over on what not to do, of that I'm sure.

Like I have said on many occasion, time has basically run out for RL, AFL has won. We, and by we, I mean most of us on this forum, and those who are now over 30, don't count. We are are more or less rusted on. We will probably never embrace AFL, but we don't matter. The next generation and the next after that will make AFL KING of the sporting landscape bar none. Over the next 20 odd years, AFL will dwarf NRL playing numbers in all states, bar QLD and maybe be close to equal in NSW. And as we all know, when you grow up playing a sport, that generally ends up being your favourite sport and the sport you invest most of your time in watching and money on. Especially when it is promoted so well, massive new stadiums and crowds and all the media is promoting the shit out of it. It will leave very little room for any other sport to get a look in.

Then after the next 20 years, league will be to AFL what Yawnion is to to league in Australia right now, irrelevant.

I mean, I still shake my head at how, no one is asking at any level, ARLC, clubs, or media, how come after a quarter of a century and tens of millions of dollars later, that the Melbourne Storm, haven't produced ONE, not ONE bona fide true junior that isn't of islander or of Maori decent and of those in a city of 4+ million, they have just produce three. Three! Three, they should have produced at least 30 of them at the very least by now.

Well I obviously still love the game as is evident by me even bothering to write this rant in the first place and will definitely watch Parra play tonight, but as stated, I have lost/losing that passion. I'm just sick of watching empty stadiums and non atmosphere events knowing it is all self inflicted and there is no light in sight.

Rant over.
tldr
 
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I have thought for a while that instead of investigating just players they should also look into the Refs, yes they are going to make errors but some errors really leave you wondering.
If you wanted to fix a match the ref can have just as great outcome towards it as the players do, infact the refs can decide more than the players if the give penalties at certain times and award tries that look iffy without sending them upstairs as they did in the manly newcastle game yesterday.
Why don't they check the refs out?
Do you seriously think that they don't?
 
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