Rumours and Stuff

[IFR33K]

Average minutes:
70.0 Yeo (26)
64.3 Brown (27)
58.0 Fisher-Harris (24)
55.6 Finucane (29)
55.4 Campbell-Gillard (27)
54.7 Paulo (27)
48.9 Bromwich (31)
43.8 Welch (26)
41.8 Tamou (32)
40.5 Niukore (24)
37.0 Asofa-Solomona (24)
33.0 Leota (25)
31.6 Tetevano (30)
28.3 Evans (28)

We could've played Paulo and RCG for fewer minutes if we had better support on the bench. Giving Lane some minutes in the middle undoubtedly helped, but none of our guys are 30+ like Tamou, Bromwich or Tetevano. Our oldest middle was Kane Evans who has never been good at effort-on-effort .

Maybe not thrashing NBrown, paulo and RCG thru the year and giving a Evans, stone, Kafusi and even Alvaro a decent run at some stage may of been beneficial for the team come semi final time. I honestly don’t even know why stone was in the team.

 

[IFR33K]

It's all relative. I reckon we started the year strong and ambushed a few sides, especially right after the Covid break. As other teams gained fitness and form they caught up. That doesn't mean we got worse, just that we peaked sooner.

We got worse but feel free to spin it all you like. Points dried up, we leaked tries like a sieve, and our defensive line had more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

 

[IFR33K]

No doubt, but he isn’t in the top 10 worst players to pull on a parra Jersey!
That’s a crazy statement

So far he is. He was horrendous running out of the line like a headless chook. If he went on the open market as of today, I can’t think of any teams chasing him. If his form continues next year he’ll be shown the door, lets hope there’s some takers

 

[lingard]

His a shit player that bloke! Where can his be better with he’s preparing?

Mate, I get that the Tigers forum is pretty bare (and that, for some reason, the Parra Eels forum is very active all year round) so you're welcome to come on here and have a bit of banter. But at least contribute something meaningful for f#ck sake.

 

[lingard]

Never a truer word spoken... Been this way for years...

Seven years?

 

[Pazza]

* some bench forwards (our starting 13 is as good as anyone else's, imo; but once RCG, Paulo, and Nathan Brown go off, the only player we have with any punch is Niukore, and Marata needs some help)

I'd love to see Marata develop some footwork at the line. The guy is such an athlete and hits the line with good size and a lot of speed. I don't want to see him bulk up over the off season, i'd love to see him try and work a step into his runs every now and again. He already looks to break the line and get quick play the balls just with speed and power. Throw a bit of a step in there he'd clean go past the first tackle frequently.

 

[lingard]

Here's the one stat to rule them all:

Offloads
303 Eels
>229 Daylight
229 Roosters
218 Storm

See how misleading stats can be?

 

[lingard]

What if two merkins choose the same number ffs

Then one of them has to go play for Salford.

 

[lingard]

It's all relative. I reckon we started the year strong and ambushed a few sides, especially right after the Covid break. As other teams gained fitness and form they caught up. That doesn't mean we got worse, just that we peaked sooner.

So Arthur needs to work out how to get us to peak at the right time, eh?

 

[lingard]

It’s Gus, heading back to the Goosters

Yeah, but he just got a gig at the Warriors, didn't he? I reckon it might be Slater. And the 'huge story' is that everyone has been expecting Ryles to take over from Bellamy at Melbourne.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lack of supporting the ball carrier has been our constant problem and the coach has not fixed it.

Yep

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I really think Waqa Blake's defence is so poor because the defensive coach has him confused. It is the only explanation I can come up with and hopefully that'll be sorted out this pre-season. He will probably never be a great defensive centre but surely he can improve markedly. Surely?

If Brenko Lee can win a premiership surely Waqa Blake can.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Is the average calculated over 20 rounds or games played Poo?

I thought the point of the discussion was evaluation of workload throughout the season. Many of those within the comparison played fewer weeks therefore by definition their workload cannot be compared. Maybe Ive missed the point?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

See how misleading stats can be?

How is that misleading? It shows exactly how many offloads teams threw. Good evidence that our guys were trusted to pass the ball if there was an opportunity.

Personally I think Arthur trusts some of his players too much, when what is needed is more structure and less freedom for many of them. Our team offload stats support this. There's nothing misleading about them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So Arthur needs to work out how to get us to peak at the right time, eh?

We've peaked later in the season ('17 and '19). The problem wasn't when we peaked but just not being as good as the better teams. At least peaking earlier means we win more games and finish higher on the ladder.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I thought the point of the discussion was evaluation of workload throughout the season. Many of those within the comparison played fewer weeks therefore by definition their workload cannot be compared. Maybe Ive missed the point?

Yeah fair point. Total number of games should be listed alongside these, or even total minutes. You're retired Gaz. Get on it.

 

[TheRam]

They keep the same jersey number all season. As an example, here's Kenny Edwards wearing the same number every game this year despite starting at second row, hooker and off the bench: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/Custom/MzItMjAyNS0tNS0tLS0tMjA1ODctLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t

You did see him catching the ball at the back from bombs and making the last tackle at the back in defense right?

He interchanges between second receiver and fullback, but wears the 6. It is as clear as day if you take that Pou out of your eyes mate.

 

[TheRam]

Yeah I don’t dispute it was bad at times, especially mid season, however think it’s fairly fixable with the players we have in the top 13.

You are right, just have to get that one dimensional coach out of the way.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You did see him catching the ball at the back from bombs and making the last tackle at the back in defense right?

He interchanges between second receiver and fullback, but wears the 6. It is as clear as day if you take that Pou out of your eyes mate.

In most teams the fullback is second receiver.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Yeah fair point. Total number of games should be listed alongside these, or even total minutes. You're retired Gaz. Get on it.

Na. Ive got a great analyst who does outstanding work on such matters.