Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Do you think he is in form? He is the slowest fullback in the competition. A real turtle. No explosion or x factor.
What makes him a very good fullback is his defense, safety and ball playing skills.
Ball playing skills don't seem to be used anymore. If that's cause the coach wanted to use Dylan's more then why did they want to keep Gutherson? Imo that is his best strength.He was or is the beat ballplaying fullback in the comp. Without his 20+ TAs a game he becomes just an average fullback who never breaks the line or scares the defense with his run game.

Moving forward I feel like we want our fullback to be more a runner and let Dylan and Moses have the good ball more. This doesn't favour Guthersons style at all.

Well Gutherson had an LBA/TA yesterday and Drown had none. Gutherson is doing less running so Drown can do more. It’s a good system and suits our roster. Or do you still think you know more than BA?

 

[hindy111]

Well Gutherson had an LBA/TA yesterday and Drown had none. Gutherson is doing less running so Drown can do more. It’s a good system and suits our roster. Or do you still think you know more than BA?

Yes he did. As I said if it was my side I would of let him walk. I don't think moving forward he is worth the big coin. You need to remember that this is a footy forum where we are discussing different ideas. Take that away and what would be the purpose of us all coming in here. Should we just all agree with how a club is operating and find statistics to support that?

I am broadcasting my opinion and happy for people to disagree. I enjoy ideas others have also even if I think they are wrong.
Unsure why you and Gronk try and correct us all the time. We do understand that it is only our opinion and that others will differ. BA would have a broad idea of what's going on behind the scenes and juniors coming thru the system also. Far better then I would.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Mitch's tackling and defense is also above average now

I absolutely agree.

 

[hindy111]

On our dummy half for next season, I have no idea how good or ready either Hands or Yates will be for NRL next season, So I wouldn't mind if someone that regularly watches the lower grades or has access to an insiders thoughts on them, to tell us what they know or think about either.

See I have no confidence that Hodgson will stay injury free next season and that will spell disaster for our team if we don't have a quality and capable replacement ready to go if we want to stay a semi final top team.

My solution to this is Jeremy Marshall-King, he is a free agent and unsigned thus far for next year. He has a decent passing game (being an ex-half) and a very good running game and will be a 100 game player by the end of this season. Now I don't know how much he is on or how much he wants, but I can't imagine it being more then $250-300K. Or put it this way, would he be willing to come to a quality and strong club like ours if we offered him the chance to play behind a strong forward pack and a couple of high quality halves for around that much?

His game would no doubt be even more effective playing along side our forwards then what he has had to endure for most of his NRL career. Of course we should only be looking at him if we believed that our two current lower grade dummy halves were not up to it or would not be ready by next season.

If that is the case then it would be extreme folly to gamble our whole season on a player with a very chequered history in regards to injuries of late. We need to make sure we aren't caught short and then have all the apologists come out defending the club with their typical, 'like no one could have predicted and it is all good in hindsight', type of bullsh*t comments we always hear from those boofheads.

I reckon you'd snag him for about 150k tbh.

Yates and Hands seem to be behind Rein. That's confused me. I felt if the club wanted to fast track either then Rein would be on the bench. In saying that Hands seems to be able to play hooker, halves and lock. Maybe they want to turn him into a utility role. From what I gather Yates can also play a bit of lock.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

sorry bro I only skimmed over this as I don’t have a spare 4 hours to read it… but I don’t disagree with you. But unfortunately for some reason we thought it was a smart move to sign Hodgson and he isn’t that type of player, he has always been a Smith/Farah controlling 9.

He’s 44 years old so don’t think he will all of a sudden start darting from dummy half. Considering he’s going to be here regardless I think we need to just give him a basic game plan of getting the ball to our two halves and not overplay his hand, which is what he has been guilty of the last couple of seasons at Canberra

The dummy half is the first one to make a decision on the play, and he has a few options including to choose between multiple merkins calling for the ball, or ignore them and do something different depending on how he’s read the defence. If your dummy half is better at making decisions than the other spine players you let him make the decisions. If he’s not then his instructions are more detailed (i.e. if no markers then run, else give it to Mitch or Dylan in that order).

 

[yy_cheng]

I reckon you'd snag him for about 150k tbh.

Yates and Hands seem to be behind Rein. That's confused me. I felt if the club wanted to fast track either then Rein would be on the bench. In saying that Hands seems to be able to play hooker, halves and lock. Maybe they want to turn him into a utility role. From what I gather Yates can also play a bit of lock.

Maybe we still need rein if reed goes down and so he plays hooker in
the 2s to get used to it system so he can slot in when necessary

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes he did. As I said if it was my side I would of let him walk. I don't think moving forward he is worth the big coin. You need to remember that this is a footy forum where we are discussing different ideas. Take that away and what would be the purpose of us all coming in here. Should we just all agree with how a club is operating and find statistics to support that?

I am broadcasting my opinion and happy for people to disagree. I enjoy ideas others have also even if I think they are wrong.
Unsure why you and Gronk try and correct us all the time. We do understand that it is only our opinion and that others will differ. BA would have a broad idea of what's going on behind the scenes and juniors coming thru the system also. Far better then I would.

Well I disagree with some things he does as well, but I at least try to understand why those things are done. Ultimately every decision is a balance between pros and cons, competing priorities. There’s no right answers, even in hindsight.

But criticising these decisions without having all the facts is criticising things you don’t know about, which is what f**kwits do. Can’t you disagree without criticising?

 

[TheRam]

Well I disagree with some things he does as well, but I at least try to understand why those things are done. Ultimately every decision is a balance between pros and cons, competing priorities. There’s no right answers, even in hindsight.

But criticising these decisions without having all the facts is criticising things you don’t know about, which is what f**kwits do. Can’t you disagree without criticising?

Piss off merkin with your mightier the thou attitude all the time. You are probably in the top 1% of getting it wrong merkin on this forum because you have no feel for the game or player and just back stats and numbers and plodder coaches.

Learn to feel life and all it has to offer not just analyse its stats and put them in a pros and cons column like a boring old studious, but clueless accountant.

Merkin!

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Piss off merkin with your mightier the thou attitude all the time. You are probably in the top 1% of getting it wrong merkin on this forum because you have no feel for the game or player and just back stats and numbers and plodder coaches.

Learn to feel life and all it has to offer not just analyse its stats and put them in a pros and cons column like a boring old studious, but clueless accountant.

Merkin!

I hope you don't use vulgar language like that at your club meetings Ram, I have heard Hindy gets very offended by dirty language.

 

[hindy111]

Well I disagree with some things he does as well, but I at least try to understand why those things are done. Ultimately every decision is a balance between pros and cons, competing priorities. There’s no right answers, even in hindsight.

But criticising these decisions without having all the facts is criticising things you don’t know about, which is what f**kwits do. Can’t you disagree without criticising?

I don't feel like I criticise the coach often. Do you agree or disagree?

 

[hindy111]

I hope you don't use vulgar language like that at your club meetings Ram, I have heard Hindy gets very offended by dirty language.

f**k of merkin

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Piss off merkin with your mightier the thou attitude all the time. You are probably in the top 1% of getting it wrong merkin on this forum because you have no feel for the game or player and just back stats and numbers and plodder coaches.

Learn to feel life and all it has to offer not just analyse its stats and put them in a pros and cons column like a boring old studious, but clueless accountant.

Merkin!

I know all the ways we are fooled by randomness and our biases, and I see them in others, especially merkins with strong opinions like yourself. This is why I don’t trust anyone’s ‘feel for the game’ including my own. This shapes my expectations, and it’s why I’m not frustrated and confused by the decisions of rugby league players and coaches the way you constantly are.

 

[Gazzamatta]

I know all the ways we are fooled by randomness and our biases, and I see them in others, especially merkins with strong opinions like yourself. This is why I don’t trust anyone’s ‘feel for the game’ including my own. This shapes my expectations, and it’s why I’m not frustrated and confused by the decisions of rugby league players and coaches the way you constantly are.

Well Id explain it to you Poo but I have neither the time nor the crayons.

 

[TheRam]

I hope you don't use vulgar language like that at your club meetings Ram, I have heard Hindy gets very offended by dirty language.

Well when it comes to Bones on Bones our behaviour and language is dirtier then an unwashed arsehole and twice as nasty, with a hint of cheese, the blue kind.

 

[TheRam]

I know all the ways we are fooled by randomness and our biases, and I see them in others, especially merkins with strong opinions like yourself. This is why I don’t trust anyone’s ‘feel for the game’ including my own. This shapes my expectations, and it’s why I’m not frustrated and confused by the decisions of rugby league players and coaches the way you constantly are.

Fatalist plodder!

Life is short merkin. So just smile while you still have teeth.

Learn to live merkin, it may just surprise you how freeing it is.

 

[hindy111]

Fatalist plodder!

Life is short merkin. So just smile while you still have teeth.

Learn to live merkin, it may just surprise you how freeing it is.

Please provide some statistical proof

 

[Soto]

I reckon you'd snag him for about 150k tbh.

Yates and Hands seem to be behind Rein. That's confused me. I felt if the club wanted to fast track either then Rein would be on the bench. In saying that Hands seems to be able to play hooker, halves and lock. Maybe they want to turn him into a utility role. From what I gather Yates can also play a bit of lock.

JMK would be perfect for 10-15 before halftime and at the back end of a game.
His defense has improved alot and his direct running and speed against tired and retreating defenses would work well with Hodgson.
Hodgson is a smart, wily player. If he stays fit he will be a good addition. Just don't know he can go the distance, hence why JMK, Hands and Yates can learn an enormous amount from him.

 

[lingard]

Do you think he is in form? He is the slowest fullback in the competition. A real turtle. No explosion or x factor.
What makes him a very good fullback is his defense, safety and ball playing skills.
Ball playing skills don't seem to be used anymore. If that's cause the coach wanted to use Dylan's more then why did they want to keep Gutherson? Imo that is his best strength.He was or is the beat ballplaying fullback in the comp. Without his 20+ TAs a game he becomes just an average fullback who never breaks the line or scares the defense with his run game.

Moving forward I feel like we want our fullback to be more a runner and let Dylan and Moses have the good ball more. This doesn't favour Guthersons style at all.

I've got a feeling Simmonson would be a good to very good fullback.

 

[Soto]

I've got a feeling Simmonson would be a good to very good fullback.

Agree but think Russell will also be a very good fullback too.
I wouldn't be against Simonsson and Russell being our wingers for now. Both have an abundance of speed, young and best footy is ahead of them.

 

[lingard]

The dummy half is the first one to make a decision on the play, and he has a few options including to choose between multiple merkins calling for the ball, or ignore them and do something different depending on how he’s read the defence. If your dummy half is better at making decisions than the other spine players you let him make the decisions. If he’s not then his instructions are more detailed (i.e. if no markers then run, else give it to Mitch or Dylan in that order).

That doesn't seem very detailed. Only three options ffs.