Rumours and Stuff

[Soren Lorenson]

I’ll be very surprised if he’s been signed to be a regular first grade player. He’s on a 2 year deal according to the rags, so let’s see how it pans out. No chance he’s on big money.

If BA can get Cartwright to defend decently, there’s no reason he can’t with Taulagi as well. Win / win for mine.

That's an interesting point. BA seems to be able to get individuals defensively better (Moses, Carty) but can't seem to land on a system that works for the team. It can't be all down to baldness.

 

[Delboy]

There’s certainly one issue , the last above average back signed was Michael Jennings, not commenting on Fergo or Waqa but they are not the quality of Jennings. He was signed in 2016, so th he club has appointed several different people on management roles since then, with good reason, but have failed to attract anyone rise of that calibre.
Why, do we have people now with the ability to sell the Eels as a destination club, not sure why we have targets but don’t hit them.
The nark in me looks at the premier clubs, Roosters need backs, they sign Sualii and Young, we sign Lumelume and Cini. The need a hooker, Brandon Smith, we get Hodgson. Plenty of examples, Val Holmes, Reece Walsh, Creighton , cannot we just hit on an elite bA k for once. It’s difficult, but surely the succession plan would have made it fairly obvious what was missing.
Questions need to be asked on how this eventuates given the size and following of our club.

 

[Avenger]

There’s certainly one issue , the last above average back signed was Michael Jennings, not commenting on Fergo or Waqa but they are not the quality of Jennings. He was signed in 2016, so th he club has appointed several different people on management roles since then, with good reason, but have failed to attract anyone rise of that calibre.
Why, do we have people now with the ability to sell the Eels as a destination club, not sure why we have targets but don’t hit them.
The nark in me looks at the premier clubs, Roosters need backs, they sign Sualii and Young, we sign Lumelume and Cini. The need a hooker, Brandon Smith, we get Hodgson. Plenty of examples, Val Holmes, Reece Walsh, Creighton , cannot we just hit on an elite bA k for once. It’s difficult, but surely the succession plan would have made it fairly obvious what was missing.
Questions need to be asked on how this eventuates given the size and following of our club.

We are restricted because we have put all our chips in our spine and two starting props which is the envy of many clubs. The proof is we couldn’t offer Mahoney anymore than $500k so he jumped. Not that I want the little f**ker to ever return.

I hear great things about Ethyn Martin. Only spoke about him this morning. He is the type of player we need to develop and get maximum return from him as he gets better.

Hopefully with a new coach soon the priority will change but at the moment ‘chasing the collision’ costs money which is why we are weak and recruit average players in the backline. Our 2 to 5 would have to be the worst in the comp, however our halves and props are probably the best.

 

[T.S Quint]

the last above average back signed was Michael Jennings, not commenting on Fergo or Waqa but they are not the quality of Jennings.

Harsh on Ferguson.
He may not have been as good as Jennings, but he was definitely an above-average outside-back. Especially when we signed him.

Also, I'm guessing you mean outside-backs, because we were able to attract Moses to the club. Even when he was at the Tigers he was above-average (even if very slightly).

It seemed like we were hoping to find quality in our outside backs through the juniors. Penisini has done fine, but the rest haven't panned out the way I imagine we hoped.

It would be good to attract a quality, above-average centre/winger to our club again and I don't know why we can't. Other teams either seem to be a quality destination in terms of opportunity to win (Roosters, Souths, Melbourne) or are so desperate they pay overs (Dogs, Tigers, Dragons). Considering our form over the last 5 years, I would think we'd be a team that can offer opportunities to win, but apparently not.

 

[lingard]

Corey Allen, anyone?

 

[TheCrowe]

There’s certainly one issue , the last above average back signed was Michael Jennings, not commenting on Fergo or Waqa but they are not the quality of Jennings. He was signed in 2016, so th he club has appointed several different people on management roles since then, with good reason, but have failed to attract anyone rise of that calibre.
Why, do we have people now with the ability to sell the Eels as a destination club, not sure why we have targets but don’t hit them.
The nark in me looks at the premier clubs, Roosters need backs, they sign Sualii and Young, we sign Lumelume and Cini. The need a hooker, Brandon Smith, we get Hodgson. Plenty of examples, Val Holmes, Reece Walsh, Creighton , cannot we just hit on an elite bA k for once. It’s difficult, but surely the succession plan would have made it fairly obvious what was missing.
Questions need to be asked on how this eventuates given the size and following of our club.

Roosters offer a lot of extras off the books. Everyone knows it. Just ask Dom Young who allegedly told his current team mates about all the extras. NRL came out a few years back and said they do not investigate cap violations unless there is a whistle blower. Watch the journos giggle like schoolboys when Tallis said the quite part out loud. Gould has also said it. But.......nothing to see here. Carry on.

 

[Stagger eel]

Corey Allen, anyone?

definitely..

 

[Stagger eel]

Roosters offer a lot of extras off the books. Everyone knows it. Just ask Dom Young who allegedly told his current team mates about all the extras. NRL came out a few years back and said they do not investigate cap violations unless there is a whistle blower. Watch the journos giggle like schoolboys when Tallis said the quite part out loud. Gould has also said it. But.......nothing to see here. Carry on.

I see the NRL won't even investigate Anasta's comments regarding this, and he's a registered Player manager.

they are a toothless tiger.

 

[Delboy]

Our 2 to 5 would have to be the worst in the comp, however our halves and props are probably the best.

Broncos and Penrith would argue that, the point is that with the second largest CBD , surely there should be an opportunities to sell a vision of the club to the odd elite player. Part of the question was, do we have people in the positions required to do that?

Even my wife cannot understand how the club doesn’t seem to be in the market for backs, if Dom Young gets mentioned she always asks why we weren’t in the hunt for him. Anyway, let’s hope we get surprised, but it’s definitely frustrating and the CEOs platitudes are falling short of what we need to be moving up to the big boys.

 

[Delboy]

I see the NRL won't even investigate Anasta's comments regarding this, and he's a registered Player manager.

they are a toothless tiger.

Uncle Nick and Gus know where the skeletons are, and perhaps are too powerful to be questioned seriously.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I see the NRL won't even investigate Anasta's comments regarding this, and he's a registered Player manager.

they are a toothless tiger.

They dont want a scandal. Why force a scandal if they don't have too.

I think Uncle Nick especially has figured out the system and the way around it.

I assume he gets heavy hitters around him to top up any contract or provides benefits to players outside the cap that can't be traced by the salary cap.

The Roosters also launched a business club in 2020 to bring big corporate types closer to club.

As much as i hate them they are the corporate standard every club should be aspiring for in the game.

Sydney Roosters Launch Business Club

2020 will play host to another first for the Sydney Roosters with the introduction of the Business Club.

www.roosters.com.au

 

[TheCrowe]

I see the NRL won't even investigate Anasta's comments regarding this, and he's a registered Player manager.

they are a toothless tiger.

Gus said not long ago if he could recruit 1 Rooster it would be their accountant.

 

[Stagger eel]

They dont want a scandal. Why force a scandal if they don't have too.

I think Uncle Nick especially has figured out the system and the way around it.

I assume he gets heavy hitters around him to top up any contract or provides benefits to players outside the cap that can't be traced by the salary cap.

The Roosters also launched a business club in 2020 to bring big corporate types closer to club.

As much as i hate them they are the corporate standard every club should be aspiring for in the game.

Sydney Roosters Launch Business Club

2020 will play host to another first for the Sydney Roosters with the introduction of the Business Club.

www.roosters.com.au

yep, it's just a pity that our heavy hitters didn't have the right intentions...

 

[84 Baby]

Mate he barely wants to be in the forwards and now you want to throw him into the engine room fulltime.

Hmmmm...I wonder how that will go?

I dont think Matto has the mental toughness to be a prop.

He is too much of a sook and would never allow BA to play him there.

He’s basically been playing prop for the past 2 seasons… and hasn’t appeared to have an issue with it. Even got an Origin selection off the back of it.
Even if he did have a problem with it, just put a different number on his back, like late career Hindy.
Some of the muckraking that occurs on here…

 

[84 Baby]

yep, it's just a pity that our heavy hitters didn't have the right intentions...

Bill Moss completely f**king it is a bigger missed opportunity than anything that’s happened on the field since 2001.

 

[Stagger eel]

Bill Moss completely f**king it is a bigger missed opportunity than anything that’s happened on the field since 2001.

I tend to agree.

 

[84 Baby]

I tend to agree.

Moss: “Hey certain CCA director, Aland director, heck Mr Pirtek, couple of very well off property “developers” in Parra, Rabs & Sterlo, f**k it even Roy Hardley, how about we set up a regular get together just to discuss totally independent business ideas.”
Moss: “Hey Sharpie, let’s have lunch. What’s that you’re negotiating with a certain player? That’s interesting. Say… who’s their agent again?”
Moss after certain player signs: “Gee Sharpie it sure was lucky that totally independent corporate supporter got in contact with that player.”

 

[TheRam]

We are restricted because we have put all our chips in our spine and two starting props which is the envy of many clubs. The proof is we couldn’t offer Mahoney anymore than $500k so he jumped. Not that I want the little f**ker to ever return.

I hear great things about Ethan Martin. Only spoke about him this morning. He is the type of player we need to develop and get maximum return from him as he gets better.

Hopefully with a new coach soon the priority will change but at the moment ‘chasing the collision’ costs money which is why we are weak and recruit average players in the backline. Our 2 to 5 would have to be the worst in the comp, however our halves and props are probably the best.

Hardly the best two props anymore if Junior doesn't come back to some decent form.

As for Ethyn Martin, I like him and what I like about him other then his speed and elusiveness is he has a fend. Sivo watch and take note you dumb arse. Where has your fend gone to pelican? You literally had the best in the game and now you just run soft and get dominated in the collision. Use your freakin fend.

Oh and great music and song to watch the highlights with. I just watched it twice and the second time was just for the music. He is also decent sized and should fill out nicely. How old is he 21-22 years already? If so, it's now or never for the young man.

 

[bazza]

There’s certainly one issue , the last above average back signed was Michael Jennings, not commenting on Fergo or Waqa but they are not the quality of Jennings. He was signed in 2016, so th he club has appointed several different people on management roles since then, with good reason, but have failed to attract anyone rise of that calibre.
Why, do we have people now with the ability to sell the Eels as a destination club, not sure why we have targets but don’t hit them.
The nark in me looks at the premier clubs, Roosters need backs, they sign Sualii and Young, we sign Lumelume and Cini. The need a hooker, Brandon Smith, we get Hodgson. Plenty of examples, Val Holmes, Reece Walsh, Creighton , cannot we just hit on an elite bA k for once. It’s difficult, but surely the succession plan would have made it fairly obvious what was missing.
Questions need to be asked on how this eventuates given the size and following of our club.

One thing is that Parra is never mentioned as being in the hunt for those players that you mentioned
So seems to me more like the club doesn't go after them rather than they choose the Roosters over Parra

 

[hineyrulz]

Not to be too rude but he has been in 2 pretty shit development systems in his time...

Maybe going to a club that has a clue will help him next year..

But he’s coming to Parra ffs!!