Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

You didn't answer the question how many forwards came through after 2018 that's the date you keep bringing up about the rebuild.

I’m talking about the rebuild of the NRL side, not the pathways. They are not the same thing.

If you need to know why we need to develop probably answers enough about your knowledge of a successful football team..

I asked you to explain your theory. Since 2017 we have won SG Ball twice and both times most of the best players chased the money at other NRL clubs. You need to explain how that benefits us and why it’s worth the cost of developing those players.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think this says enough about your knowledge of success

Well you seem to know everything. Time to back up your theories.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

But both still took the ability for another kid to come through and play at the club.

Which has now been rectified

Who did they prevent from playing for us?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

With the current recruitment approach even if they are still mercenaries , they are building depth for each position , so if players like sanders or a talagi want to leave or play games , we can tell them to f**k off as have others equally as good. Also means we our club does not have to talk any of them up like they did with Blaize

But other clubs are all trying to do the same thing. You can’t just stockpile the best juniors, because they are in high demand. Even Penrith lost Isaiya Katoa the year he turned 18.

 

[JokerEel]

I’m talking about the rebuild of the NRL side, not the pathways. They are not the same thing.

I asked you to explain your theory. Since 2017 we have won SG Ball twice and both times most of the best players chased the money at other NRL clubs. You need to explain how that benefits us and why it’s worth the cost of developing those players.

The NRL club and the pathways are the same thing one leads into the other...

Winning Ball and producing players the club needs is two different things. The club was productive in not developing players to replace the ones that were leaving top effort.

 

[JokerEel]

Who did they prevent from playing for us?

Greg and John.

 

[Tiger5150]

Who did they prevent from playing for us?

I know for a fact taht Jacob Liddle and Jake Simpkin were offered to Parra. Both are better than the hookers you had

 

[JokerEel]

Well you seem to know everything. Time to back up your theories.

Well no point telling you as you are stubborn as f**k and probably sit there with your fingers on your ears going Lalalalala

 

[JokerEel]

But other clubs are all trying to do the same thing. You can’t just stockpile the best juniors, because they are in high demand. Even Penrith lost Isaiya Katoa the year he turned 18.

Ffs Panfers why are you developing players when they just leave don't you know thats not what the top teams do....

 

[Incorrect]

Oh this dumb shit again?

Exactly what everyone else around here says to themselves when we see your "contributions"....

Sorry to say, but whatever credibility you may have had was completely extinguished when Hineyrulz called you out for your obvious attempts at shoring up an argument without having watched the game he referenced... The term fraud is justified... But go back to the stats as soon as you can to continue your lame validations....

 

[Glenneel]

Gibbo did well in 86 to win the competition with us!

Monie was coach in 86.

 

[JokerEel]

Monie was coach in 86.

Yeah I was taking the piss

 

[Glenneel]

This is demonstrably untrue. Our tactics prior to 2019 were very different. That’s when we shifted from attacking the edges to going through the middle. We also moved the ball a lot more after we brought Barrett in. This is shown in our reduced completion rates in those years.

That's right, Barrett changed our attack, not BA. So my comment applies, he had little tactics beyond 'chase the collision'.

Or were they they only ones who weren’t mercenaries?

Ryles said this is the responsibility of the list management group. The same list management group that built a squad that was supposedly so good it would’ve won a premiership if only it didn’t have a shit coach.

So a coach has NO input into the players they want. Have you had a brain lobotomy?

And are you saying we never had any fan days in 11 years? And do you really think the coach organises this sort of thing? It’s a marketing activity ffs. The coach turns up because it’s in his contract.

Never this many-already 3 with another on way. BA only had 1 per year didn't hr?

I don’t think Ryles has anything to do with restructuring the juniors. His responsibility is coaching the NRL team, which is assembled by the list management group.

Funny how this happened after Ryles appointed. And you think there's no correlation?

Don’t go thinking NRL coaches run clubs. That hasn’t been the case since the 90s. There are entire staffs running clubs now, and they all ultimately answer to the board, who approve the budget.

Correct but coaches have final input in the way the football dept runs.

 

[Glenneel]

BA’s plan was to set his kids up with contracts and not get fired. It’s amazing how Ryles has changed things in a short space of time.

According to Pou Ryles does/did nothing. All done by some committee apparently but gee they hugely improved once they appointed Ryles - just a co-incidence apparently. That right Pou?

 

[Jacko955]

Even Fox Sports didn't have them top, but ahead of us. After this year, hopefully, our spine of Iongi/Papalli, Brown, Moses, Hands/Riley Smith will be top or near.

Based on TCT reports Papalli will be impossible to leave out of the team but where to put him? Hes played mainly fullback but I'd put him in centres and move Lomax to wing but that's me. Ryles must have a plan as bought him directly into top 30. Also Smith is training the house down and is a dynamic dummy half and will partner Hands who'll start. Both players are former Aust school boys so good pedigree.

I Watched Joash play alot of lower grades for the dogs he probably the perfect 14 to bring him in to the NRL. I was disappointed to lose him as I thought he would have been ideal In that spot for us can cover 1,6,9 has played 13 in lower grades and could probably cover wing or centre if needed. but did make a good go at the fullback spot. Hope he gets a good crack this year

 

[hineyrulz]

Exactly what everyone else around here says to themselves when we see your "contributions"....

Sorry to say, but whatever credibility you may have had was completely extinguished when Hineyrulz called you out for your obvious attempts at shoring up an argument without having watched the game he referenced... The term fraud is justified... But go back to the stats as soon as you can to continue your lame validations....

Not this dumb shit again is what everyone says reading one of this frauds disingenuous posts.

Most people would admit they got it wrong, but not Pou who doubles them triples and then quadruples down.

“ No matter what Pou did the right thing”

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

Seems like it's gonna be another baaaaddd year for the poumeister....

 

[hineyrulz]

Seems like it's gonna be another baaaaddd year for the poumeister....

Especially if we do well and Ryles totally shows up the bald fraud.

“But but but but you can’t compare coaches in different seasons”

Unless it suits the disingenuous frauds argument tyen its open slather.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The NRL club and the pathways are the same thing one leads into the other...

One does indeed lead into the other but that doesn't mean they are the same thing. They aren't even run by the same people. Pathways are the responsibility of the pathways staff, not the NRL coaching staff.

Winning Ball and producing players the club needs is two different things. The club was productive in not developing players to replace the ones that were leaving top effort.

That's because you can just buy them on the market. You're not forced to bring them through your pathways, it's just a bonus if you can. It's why Penrith bought Blaize Talagi and Alamoti the year before that. Because they didn't have the players ready in their own pathways. We had halves ready to come through (Sanders and Talagi) but didn't need them for the NRL team. Back when we brought Dylan Brown through, he was so good we created space for him, shopping Norman and Moses until the first one got a buyer.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I know for a fact taht Jacob Liddle and Jake Simpkin were offered to Parra. Both are better than the hookers you had

How was Matt Arthur's contract blocking that from happening?