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What a bone head won't get is key moments. Being clutch and cool. That's what seperates your Clearys/Brady.

Kicking a field goal when your up by 40 goes down as a field goal. Scoring a try or a try assist when down by 40 means little also. It's why they call it a consolation try.

Kicking a field goal in a semi final or a sideline conversion to win a game final shows up as a stat similar to Kicking a field goal when no pressure.

Stats mean nothing unless you've watched the actual game. Based on stats is why a few penauts rated guys like Moimesea,A.Davey,Lussicks. Garbage players.

Argue all you wish about stats. They don't tell you the full story.
I agree Brady is shit
 

T.S Quint

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It’s definitely a stat. So are the stats @emjaycee shared that show a whole bunch of merkins came up with game winning plays more often than Brady. But because he just played for so long, he accumulated more of them throughout his career. A very good stat btw

I’d say he didn’t come up with game-winning plays as often as those other players because he didn’t have to. He and his team were good enough to not need a game-winning play so often.
 

Gronk

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Spencer Leniu

I imagine it would be tough after growing up in the rough and tumble streets of Mt Druitt.

Then moving your life & lifestyle to Bondi.

Its almost the complete opposite lifestyle to what he would be used & accustomed too.
Maybe we should arrange to set fire to his car for him ? Just like old times.
 

T.S Quint

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Yes Brown has an average kicking game.
They said it was silly to move fitler from centre to five eight as well. Penisini could make a go of it, you heard it here first.

Who said it was silly to move Fittler to five-eighth? He played there all through his junior footy, including for Australian Schoolboys.

Penisini has been an outside back his whole career (unless someone can correct me on that).
 

T.S Quint

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I guess it makes N.Cleary the G.O.A.T then as he has 4 premierships already and so goes pass Thurston and Johns.

It’s a stat.
Not the only stat that matters.

For the record, I don’t believe players can be judged on stats alone. They can be used to back up one’s view of how they play, however. Sometimes I might think a player has done nothing in a game, but then by looking at the stats I can see they got through a lot more work than I thought I saw.
 

T.S Quint

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Obviously you missed my point. Brady is the king because he is clutch. I rate J.Allen and Mahomes as better QBs in every area above Brady bar big moments. He ain't throwing 50mtr dimes or running to get you a 1st down.

Ah, you must love Steve Young then.

Brady is more accurate than both of those players, gave away less turnovers and could read defences better than any player ever. You don’t need a huge arm and throw 50m bombs when you can just destroy defences with shorter passes.
In saying that, Brady has thrown 649 touchdowns of 40+ yards, so it’s not like he can’t throw downfield.
 

T-Boon

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Tmars? More like @T-Boon
I think Penisini practicing it 5/8 would be a good idea except that it would be difficult to go from a ball runner to a ball player in the nrl when they spend all their time at training working on wrestling. Where is he going to learn the ball playing skills?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Stats mean nothing unless you've watched the actual game. Based on stats is why a few penauts rated guys like Moimesea,A.Davey,Lussicks. Garbage players.

Argue all you wish about stats. They don't tell you the full story.
None of those guys had good stats. Good players have good stats. That includes Cleary. He gets a lot of his try assists when his team belts the opposition too.
 

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