Rumours and Stuff

[Pazza]

The bigger issue appears to be that Tuivati has yet to sign for next year and has one of those option things that our HOF likes, now sure how it will end.

Why do we keep doing this to ourselves

 

[EppingEel]

At first I thought it was a tactic; get the centres involved with early carries, which I think happened in the first set.
I’ll have to watch again after the red mist has subsided to assess properly.

Same thing happened in the first game. I would understand it if our backs were better at bringing the ball up, but we are disadvantaging ourselves. Our forwards aren't taking enough hit ups.

 

[Zoso]

Probably lost the dressing room of the players that he doesn't want to keep...

Which would explain why some are not in the dressing room.

 

[EppingEel]

Paulo's post game interview was the same rubbish BA spewed. Atleast Ryles is saying something we haven't head BA go on about.

 

[Zoso]

Our back 5 missed 30% of all their tackles. Shocking.

I haven’t looked at individual stats but we have a fullback playing his 3rd NRL game, a right centre playing left centre inside a backup winger, a SOO winger playing centre inside a NRL debutant.
Yes Lomax and Samrani switched but that doesn’t change the level of overall experience and capabilities in their respective positions.
I’m more concerned about our middles.

 

[Stevie]

It’s not easy for Ryles I’d imagine there is no point him screaming and ranting just to lose his voice. He just doesn’t have the cattle at the moment but you can clearly see he is focused on identifying which kids he wants to build this team on which has been really positive.

I thought Samrani was a shining light. He is a big body that tries hard and I thought was very good considering the circumstances of his debut.

 

[JokerEel]

didn't Hawkins go off at half time in Cup ? Not sure he is ready yet

Yeah went off early but Ryles said in the post game interview that he will be available

 

[Stagger eel]

How long can Ronald Walkman get special NRL permission to play up when Hawkins is available ?

probably as long as the NRL take pity on us shitmerkins...it could be anytime.

 

[EppingEel]

I haven’t looked at individual stats but we have a fullback playing his 3rd NRL game, a right centre playing left centre inside a backup winger, a SOO winger playing centre inside a NRL debutant.
Yes Lomax and Samrani switched but that doesn’t change the level of overall experience and capabilities in their respective positions.
I’m more concerned about our middles.

I'm not as much critising the players, moreso the fact that any team can spread the ball out wide and score. It doesn't matter who plays in the back 5, our effort and the defensive system aren't working.

 

[Pazza]

I haven’t looked at individual stats but we have a fullback playing his 3rd NRL game, a right centre playing left centre inside a backup winger, a SOO winger playing centre inside a NRL debutant.
Yes Lomax and Samrani switched but that doesn’t change the level of overall experience and capabilities in their respective positions.
I’m more concerned about our middles.

The way the whole defensive line moves is worrying. We presented boula and Luai with staggered defensive lines due to a defender over pursuing. Tigers scored on both occasions

 

[JokerEel]

I'm not as much critising the players, moreso the fact that any team can spread the ball out wide and score. It doesn't matter who plays in the back 5, our effort and the defensive system aren't working.

How long does it take for the players to forget the crap they have been taught for years?

We have been terrible out wide in years.


If anyone watched Cronullas defense put wide you would have almost cried.. Their winger stayed out on his man the center held his line and they defended as one..

Yesterday we had a man on man and somehow the Tigers still managed to go around us... Due to our centre turning in his shoulder multiple times.


Will had 6 missed tackles but it didn't show how many times he caused an overlap due to his poor reads.

 

[Glenn]

The defensive line actually moved?

 

[Chipmunk]

We need to go and get 2 forwards with 150 NRL games who are internal culture and result influencers.

When we've found that, come back to me about maybe winning some games sometimes in the immediate future.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Anyone who saw his interview before the game on 9 yesterday could see that he has no idea how long he will be out. It was very concerning.

I can see him coming back in say Round 10 he will get 2 x games in before Origin 1.

Cleary will then go down with a hamstring niggle on the eve of the teams getting picked again and Laurie Daley will then have no choice to pick Moses as the 7 and we will be stuck with him in & out again for 6 weeks at Origin time.

 

[JokerEel]

We need to go and get 2 forwards with 150 NRL games who are internal culture and result influencers.

When we've found that, come back to me about maybe winning some games sometimes in the immediate future.

Josh Schuster is off contract

 

[EppingEel]

Josh Schuster is off contract

Great another low effort second rower that should get a different occupation.

 

[JokerEel]

We need to go and get 2 forwards with 150 NRL games who are internal culture and result influencers.

When we've found that, come back to me about maybe winning some games sometimes in the immediate future.

I would have taken Kurt Mann but he just resigned with th dogs..

Doesn't look like there are too many forwards off contract worth going for. Let's hope some get an early release..

 

[Glenneel]

Never have I been more disappointed to a start to a season than this year. So far I’ve switched off after 20 mins of the Storm game and yesterday at 22-0 when it looked highly unlikely we’d score any points. I still don’t know the final score. But the biggest disappointment of all is the performance (or lack of it) from the senior players. There is a distinct smell about the place and it has BA written all over it. I’m not suggesting BA has any direct involvement but are the senior players revolting, either subconsciously or otherwise, because BA was sacked? Did BA give them love when all they’re getting from Ryles is tough love? All I can say is that the club needs a good cleanout starting with the senior players.

Where is the leadership from Junior? Where is the mongrel and drive from our starting props, Opa and Junior? They’re providing absolutely no platform for the team. Has Junior even had an offload so far this year? Where is the performance from the other senior forwards? There were a few in the reserves and from all reports they were poor in a beaten team. Have the forwards continued to regress from 2022-23 into this year? And what is the solution?

Atm drastic heart surgery is required, and quickly, as this team appears incapable of winning any games. My thoughts are:

A player swap and offer Junior to St George and get Frank Molo in return. We might have to throw some money into the deal.

Hands is not showing much so go after Mozer from Broncos and try to get him this year.

Volkman’s kicking game is poor so bring Hawkins into team at halfback.

Brown has been very disappointing. Offer him to Knights immediately and take one of their good juniors in exchange.

Iongi has shown glimpses of brilliance but generally not providing much punch. The poor performance from the forwards has probably contributed to this. Believe he has played 5/8 in the juniors. Move him to 5/8th and bring Papalii in at fullback.

More changes in the forwards is required. If our juniors are not up for it offer player exchanges to acquire promising forwards from other teams for this year.

Look at how the Raiders and Roosters are performing with generally a young team. Ryles, if he can’t motivate this team, has an experienced coach in Nathan Brown to fall back on. His experience at Storm should have given him clues on motivation. But maybe motivation is not the answer. Perhaps the BA factor is too ingrained to change the result. Maybe a good clean out of the rotting carcasses is needed to stop the place stinking up!

 

[Zoso]

I'm not as much critising the players, moreso the fact that any team can spread the ball out wide and score. It doesn't matter who plays in the back 5, our effort and the defensive system aren't working.

Yep, I get you weren’t criticizing individuals. It’s a bit disjointed and inexperienced out there.

 

[hineyrulz]

Why do we keep doing this to ourselves

This is a how the smart clubs do business.