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Delboy

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If as it seems we need a reboot to take the club forward ( see Dogs and Tigpies), the major requirement is a big Alpha male stamping their authority on moves and vision ( Gould and Richardson) . No one in their honesty would think that Sarantinos, ONeil or Rogers are in fact dominant in that way.

Until that is resolved we are going to be pushing the veritable uphill. Ryles may well have a vision but the club needs someone that can do the hard yards with decisions etc at his side.

anyone that has been in senior management would understand how important the Alpha personality is in major decision making and direction .
 

EppingEel

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Last comment on this issue.

If as it seems we need a reboot to take the club forward ( see Dogs and Tigpies), the major requirement is a big Alpha male stamping their authority on moves and vision ( Gould and Richardson) . No one in their honesty would think that Sarantinos, ONeil or Rogers are in fact dominant in that way.

Until that is resolved we are going to be pushing the veritable uphill. Ryles may well have a vision but the club needs someone that can do the hard yards with decisions etc at his side.

anyone that has been in senior management would understand how important the Alpha personality is in major decision making and direction .
BA as HOF?
 

Johnny88

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Parramatta Eels analysis: Brailey regret, Gutho conundrum, and the ray of hope for Jason Ryles
There is no quick fix for Jason Ryles but there are options to stem the early bleeding at Parramatta. BRENT READ analyses the problems Ryles can control – and the ones he can’t.
Brent Read


If Jason Ryles is searching for some inspiration to help him navigate his way through Parramatta’s rocky start to the season, he need look no further than the bloke in the opposition coaching box this Sunday afternoon.
Cameron Ciraldo knows exactly what it feels like to be in the crosshairs early in your coaching career. Ciraldo was hailed as the saviour when he arrived at the Bulldogs two years ago but there were no shortage of doubters as the Dogs got too to a slow start, winning only three of their opening eight games in his maiden season at the helm.
All told, the ‘Dogs won only seven games in his first season. Hand-picked by Phil Gould to take the Bulldogs forward, Ciraldo attracted his fair share of critics. He backed himself, stayed the course and look at the Bulldogs now.

Last year, they played finals football and this year they are unbeaten through two rounds. Ciraldo’s critics have gone awfully quiet. Some of them are no doubt now among those who have put Ryles in the firing line as his Eels struggle to be competitive through the opening two rounds.
Their cause hasn’t been helped by the absence of their captain and best player Mitchell Moses, who aggravated a foot injury in the pre-season. Still, Moses’ absence doesn’t wholly and solely explain their dismal start to the season.
Ryles can’t afford to wallow in self-pity. Moses could be another five weeks away so he won’t be coming to the rescue any time soon.

Ryles was hired as an agent of change and inevitably that means short-term pain for long-term gain. He walked in the building and wasn’t afraid to make tough decisions, most notably giving the green light to Clint Gutherson’s departure, a decision he knew could potentially come at a cost.
At the moment, the pain is being felt on the field. Parramatta were embarrassed by the Wests Tigers on Sunday, their plight highlighted by the smattering of boos aimed at Dylan Brown and a Tigers chant reverberating around CommBank Stadium in the dying minutes.
There is no quick fix for Parramatta but there are options.

THE HALVES
Dean Hawkins was recruited from South Sydney in the off-season to provide cover for Mitchell Moses but those plans suffered a setback in the pre-season when the former Rabbitohs suffered an injury.
In Hawkins’ absence, Ronald Volkman was given first shot at the No.7 jersey. Volkman did a serviceable job but Hawkins returned at the weekend in NSW Cup and from all reports, was outstanding in his 40 minutes on the field.
Volkman only played five NRL games before arriving at Parramatta, having spent the previous year on the sidelines overcoming a shoulder injury. It was asking a lot for him to take the reins at the Eels.

Hawkins is an experienced campaigner. He only played 14 NRL games over four seasons at South Sydney but he was a fixture in their NSW Cup side and won the NSW Cup player of the year award in 2023, the same year he led the Rabbitohs’ reserve grade side to the premiership.
There seems little doubt through the opening two rounds of the season that the Eels would benefit from some experience in the halves. Hawkins has a cool head and a world-class kicking game.
ADDO-CARR RETURN
The Eels look like a side that desperately needs an injection of enthusiasm and confidence heading into this weekend. Enter Josh Addo-Carr.
The ex-NSW and Australian winger missed the opening rounds through suspension but his return is timely given he will be up against his former club.
Addo-Carr will have a point to prove. The 29-year-old try-scoring machine has struggled with injuries at times over the past two seasons but the one thing he hasn’t struggled to do is find the tryline.
Restricted to only 29 games across 2023 and 2024, Addo-Carr still managed to score 22 tries. He remains a handful on his day.

The Eels’ attack was awful against the Wests Tigers last Sunday but Addo-Carr will add to their attacking threat and provide another outlet for his playmakers.
Ryles made it clear when he took the job that he wanted more speed in the side. It was part of the reason the club opted to let Gutherson leave.
It also helped explain why they took a chance on Addo-Carr after his time at the Bulldogs came to a contentious end.
They showed plenty of faith in Addo-Carr. They need him to return the favour.
THE GUTHO CONUNDRUM
There is no doubt Gutherson has hit the ground running at St George Illawarra, but of all the Parramatta players through the opening two rounds, his replacement has been among the best.
It was asking a lot for Isaiah Iongi to step into Gutherson’s shoes and replace a club legend, but the signs have been promising despite the nature of their two defeats.
Iongi hasn’t been the problem. It’s worth remembering as well that as good as Gutherson has been for the Dragons, they are winless this season.
Iongi ran for 112 metres against the Tigers last weekend. The week before that he ran for 159 metres against the Storm. Yes, he has missed some tackles but over the past two weeks, he has been exposed by some shocking defence in front of him.

The easy option for Ryles would be to take his young fullback out of the firing line and potentially move Zac Lomax to the back.
Lomax, however, has been one of the few threats for the Eels. He ran for 166 metres, and had five tackle busts and five offloads against the Tigers.
Youngster Joash Papalii, another former Bulldog, has also been impressive in NSW Cup and looks a talent. Iongi, however, deserves more time.
MISSING BRAILEY
If there is a silver lining for Ryles, it has been the steady return of players from injury.
Moses still has more than a month to go but Hawkins and Ryan Matterson made their comebacks in the NSW Cup at the weekend.
Charlie Guymer also punched out big minutes after being sent back to give him more game time.
Bryce Cartwright and Kelma Tuilagi played just over 40 minutes apiece. Ryles has options, particularly in his forward pack.
The one concern could be at hooker. Brendan Hands and Ryley Smith shared the role against the Tigers and the Eels may live to rue the decision not to pursue Newcastle’s Jayden Brailey with more vigour.

Brailey was given permission by the Knights to explore his options and there was reputed interest from the Eels. However, he ended up signing a deal to join Canberra next season.
The Eels lack a top-quality hooker and the gulf in class has been highlighted by the performances of Harry Grant and Api Koroisau over the opening two weeks of the season.
Grant and Koroisau have had their way with the Eels. Had Parramatta been able to get their hands on Brailey early, it would have given them a calm head amid the carnage that has unfolded over the past fortnight.
It may be remembered as an opportunity lost.
STAYING THE COURSE
Ryles arrived at Parramatta with a plan and the security of a four-year deal. The Eels had been Brad Arthur’s club for more than a decade and when Ryles took charge, it was a breath of fresh air in many respects.
The results have not reflected the work that has gone in but there is a belief within Parramatta that it is only a matter of time.
Ryles has outstanding pedigree at clubs where winning is in the DNA. He knows what winning looks like.
The past fortnight hasn’t reflected that. It has been painful for the blue and gold army, who are coming up to 40 years without a premiership, but there is a sense that change had to take place if the Eels were to end the drought.
Ryles won’t be deterred. He anticipated there would be some dark days before the club began to turn the corner. Maybe not this dark, but dark all the same.
Dylan Brown’s decision to accept a big-money deal from Newcastle was a curve ball he didn’t see coming but the Eels will be emboldened by a bulging war chest and a confidence that things will improve as Ryles vision begins to take shape.
Now is not the time to panic.

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King-Gutho94

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I just think were shit and some of the players we have are physically & mentally too slow for the modern game.

Its the piss weak effort & energy we have brought to the contest for the start of the season has been inexcusable.

For the past 2 years at least since the GF the accountability with certain players performances have been non-existent.

Lane & Penisini on the same edge both have been poor for a while with decision making and both physically are not very quick.

In the middle of those two you have Drown who has checked out.

Paulo & Joffa were never mobile so no matter how much they have trimmed down its not going to make difference.

Cartwright has history phoning it in and sooking so judging by his close relationship to Arthur and his cup performance on Sunday he clearly has checked out and probably will be in Super League by June 30.

Ryan Matterson was definitely dropped on the weekend. But its not like he all of sudden has become a sook. A slight niggle and he wont be playing.

Its currently a mess and we dont have a tough enough mentality as a group atm to handle any adversity or oppressive conditions.
 

84 Baby

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Look who their up on, luai and boula.

You wanna rush and put a hit on, do it on someone like a prop, not a quick footed attacking player
Don’t entirely agree there. I think we too often show too much respect to our opponents. Those players also need to be rushed but solo heroes are more likely to be burned. It needs to be done as team. Think about how regularly we see our quick footed attacking players get rushed and shut down. We need to do that more often
 

Pazza

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Don’t entirely agree there. I think we too often show too much respect to our opponents. Those players also need to be rushed but solo heroes are more likely to be burned. It needs to be done as team. Think about how regularly we see our quick footed attacking players get rushed and shut down. We need to do that more often

if youre going to rush, do it together

we didnt and we got burnt. 2 of those 3 screen shots i posted lead to trys
 

King-Gutho94

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Don’t entirely agree there. I think we too often show too much respect to our opponents. Those players also need to be rushed but solo heroes are more likely to be burned. It needs to be done as team. Think about how regularly we see our quick footed attacking players get rushed and shut down. We need to do that more often

Backs up what your saying our line speed is the worst in the comp after 2 rounds by a big margin.

Look at Canberra on Sunday night they bashed Haas & Carrigan with relentless intensity and line speed.

Nothing rattles a team more then when the opposition are constantly in your face. It might cost you a penalty or two but eventually the refs put the whistle away.
 

Gronk

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thats not panic, thats common sense
we need to get players back into spots they have performed in and are comfortable in
We signed him as a centre. There was so much drama surrounding him at the Dragons over his positional choice. We are not losing because of his position. I don't see the point in making turmoil in the papers after 3 rounds CRISIS RIFT between coach and player, even if they deny it. Dumb move.
 
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The Eels’ attack was awful against the Wests Tigers last Sunday but Addo-Carr will add to their attacking threat and provide another outlet for his playmakers.
Ryles made it clear when he took the job that he wanted more speed in the side.

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I'm not sure it was 'speed', but same diff.
 

84 Baby

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Backs up what your saying our line speed is the worst in the comp after 2 rounds by a big margin.

Look at Canberra on Sunday night they bashed Haas & Carrigan with relentless intensity and line speed.

Nothing rattles a team more then when the opposition are constantly in your face. It might cost you a penalty or two but eventually the refs put the whistle away.
Other than the opening 20 against Wigers, it has been hopeless. Even when we do move up together it’s following finally a good pinning kick, and we’re all 5 metres offside and get called out of it and allow Skelton to run to halfway. Just dumb stuff
 

Twizzle

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So you’re in the f**k Brown, drop him so he has no chance of a miracle turn into Sterlo at the expense of potentially even worse results and maybe negatively impacting some development of other players? Me too although yeah maybe we need to suck it up for few weeks until Moses is closer to return.

Although part of me also thinks really f**k him and leave him in while we’re playing shit

not really, I just dont think we need to try and make him a 7, let the Knights waste thier time doing that, I'm a fan of Dylbro and I think let him play to his strength and he defends better when given width which I think will help us when Mitch gets back

he'll never win us games playing at 7 imo
 

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