Rumours and Stuff

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Shibasaki centre, Hammer fullback, Walsh 18th man

Josh Papali replaces Fotuaika at prop

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You’re right! No chance this one could bite us on the ass

With our short memories we won't remember how shit he was in the first few years of his contract, just like we don't remember how good our 31 year old merkins were before 2024.

 

[Cumberland Eel]

He's ordinary now but streets ahead of his peers of the same age (including Matt Arthur, another one with very high ceiling). Da Silva will probably play Origin, but offers close to zero for the rest of the year. He will likely be a gun by the final year of this contract, which is great, but how good will he be in the first three years? In a perfect world we would be giving him a contract starting in 2029, not finishing in that year.

The price and how it’s structured over the next 4 will be critical PouPou - If we must overpay a player you’d at least want them to be in their prime and even better yet play a premium position. I guess I’m just glass half empty on this one and find it unlikely he’ll become a truly elite class player while we could get better value finding high floor/low ceiling players in his position. In a perfect world we’ve locked down a gun prop & backrower before 2029.

 

[Gareth67]

Zac certainly earned his pay packet in yesterday’s game - the bloke is a good player , but at times he is downright bloody ‘orrible .

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The price and how it’s structured over the next 4 will be critical PouPou - If we must overpay a player you’d at least want them to be in their prime and even better yet play a premium position. I guess I’m just glass half empty on this one and find it unlikely he’ll become a truly elite class player while we could get better value finding high floor/low ceiling players in his position. In a perfect world we’ve locked down a gun prop & backrower before 2029.

I'm actually pretty excited about TDS, because he will almost certainly improve over the course of the contract. But it would be foolish to think it's impossible to overpay a player just because he's young.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Zac certainly earned his pay packet in yesterday’s game - the bloke is a good player , but at times he is downright bloody ‘orrible .

No, he is always great. Taking risks is part of his job, plus he contributes heavily to our go forward. He broke five tackles yesterday, scored a try and made another 197 metres. He is a gun.

 

[Cumberland Eel]

I'm actually pretty excited about TDS, because he will almost certainly improve over the course of the contract. But it would be foolish to think it's impossible to overpay a player just because he's young.

Very true Pou whatever his ceiling is he will only get better playing more first grade. If it can work this way I feel Ryley starting & Talyn off the bench could be potentially very effective pairing although the supposed price & contract would dictate TDS being the dominant hooker going forward.

 

[Cumberland Eel]

No, he is always great. Taking risks is part of his job, plus he contributes heavily to our go forward. He broke five tackles yesterday, scored a try and made another 197 metres. He is a gun.

And we’re paying the merkin less than Saints did!! Zac pass at the death was stupid but he’s one of the biggest reasons we even had a sniff.

 

[TheCrowe]

I was “relieved” after everyone jumped on the bandwagon this weekend they decided TDS is in fact shit.

Is anyone actually happy? Or do you all think he is a turd signing?

Depends what we payed for him. If it's closer to $350k then it's a good signing, If its closer to $650 then its a risky signing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Very true Pou whatever his ceiling is he will only get better playing more first grade. If it can work this way I feel Ryley starting & Talyn off the bench could be potentially very effective pairing although the supposed price & contract would dictate TDS being the dominant hooker going forward.

Smith is the better player right now but TDS has far more upside.

 

[lucablight]

So what’s the ceiling for Da Silva? Solid first grader? Above average first grader? Potential superstar?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So what’s the ceiling for Da Silva? Solid first grader? Above average first grader? Potential superstar?

I think he could end up as good as Harry Grant.

 

[Johnny88]

NRL June 30 transfer deadline: Player movements, potential destinations revealed​

Manly and the Sydney Roosters have been at the centre of the June 30 frenzy, while Wests Tigers young gun Tallyn Da Silva is heading to western Sydney. See every transfer and top-30 promotions.
Brent Read and Michael Carayannis

Manly and the Sydney Roosters have been at the centre of the June 30 frenzy as they look to strengthen their squads and maintain their top-eight hopes before the transfer window is shut down for the year.
In a frenetic 48 hours over the weekend, this masthead can reveal that:
• Wests Tigers hooker Tallyn Da Silva will join Parramatta after conducting talks with the club.
• Jake Arthur held talks over a move from Manly to Newcastle.
• The Knights blocked a Manly bid to land Jack Hetherington.
• This masthead revealed that winger Junior Tupou had secured a move from the Dolphins to the Roosters.

Winger Tyreece Tait went in the opposite direction from the Roosters to the Dolphins.
• Winger Tom Rodwell joined his younger brother Toby in the Roosters’ top 30.
• Hooker Riley Jones moved from Newcastle to Cronulla.
• Prop Lachlan Crouch shifted from Cronulla to Newcastle.
• Nick Tsougranis was upgraded to the Dragons’ top 30.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-june-30-transfer-deadline-player-movements-potential-destinations-revealed/news-story/2537609ca617cc819b9e1ff684fb991d?amp&nk=c95d4f284bc5870e4b70e77083b2b810-1751176899

 

[lucablight]

I think he could end up as good as Harry Grant.

Huge call. I hope you’re right.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It would be a huge call if I said he will end up that good, but I am a coward. I said he could end up that good.

 

[lucablight]

It would be a huge call if I said he will end up that good, but I am a coward. I said he could end up that good.

Joey Lussick “could” end up as good as Cameron Smith then.

 

[Lemon Squash]

Interesting signing… I understand the state of the cap with the new franchises coming in have blown it out a bit but $650k (ave) over 4.5 years does seem overs for a 20yo kid.

It’s a big investment in terms of both time and dollars. They are obviously convinced that TDS is the style of player we need.

I thought no doubt he would be at Manly where he would likely walk into the 9 jersey, so that’s a victory for the recruitment team to convince the kid we are the right club for him.

I like the thought of a Ryley/TDS combo in terms of their play styles complementing one another. They are still both young and developing though,TDS has struggled with the physical demands of first grade so far, I just hope he grows into those Eyebrows.

I would say this signing will mean Coinakis will more than likely look for a new club with better long term opportunities.

 

[hineyrulz]

You’re right! No chance this one could bite us on the ass

Yeah we could sign him and things could turn real bad, because this season we have got things so right.

 

[hineyrulz]

I'm actually pretty excited about TDS, because he will almost certainly improve over the course of the contract. But it would be foolish to think it's impossible to overpay a player just because he's young.

Who’s saying we aren’t overpaying him??

We couldn’t attract flies atm, of course we have to over pay to get talent here. But he has massive upside and it’s up to Ryles and his staff to get the best out of him.

You are just pissed because he’s not an utter plodder, because we all know that’s what gets you wet around the wee wee. You miss us signing blokes like Harper, Davey and Lussick.