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Poupou Escobar

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A better argument is that our club has no less resources or opportunity for success than any other club, if not more.
Results prove that untrue.
Our fans have an absolute right to expect more than we have received, including during the mediocre BA era.
Because the pre-BA era raised our expectations?
Where is our dominant team or dominant era?
It ended in 1986, and I'd love it to return, but not all clubs can have that. Most of them never do. Were we lucky? Will we be that lucky again?
Why would Penrith, Melbourne, Brisbane, Roosters or Canterbury have an entitlement to success above ours? Why would Souths or Cronulla.
Most of them aren't more successful than us, they were just lucky enough to jag a premiership in that time. With more luck we could've converted one of our last three grand finals into a win.
Some may exceed on individual metrics, but none have any greater right to expect success than Parramatta.

Perhaps only Brisbane could legitimately and unequivocally call themselves an objectively bigger club than Parramatta.

No one else. Your continual argument otherwise is indicative of the resigned, defeatist, "too hard" mentality that has infected this club for decades - undoubtedly much to your great delight and pleasure!
It's nothing to do with too hard, I'm not the one responsible for the club's success. I put it to you that no single person is responsible for it, and that the people we've gotten have all done their best. I also suggest that the people required to bring us exceptional success (Politis, the owners of the Storm and Broncos (whoever they are), some of Gould's wealthy contacts, even Russell Crowe) don't exist at our club, and they don't need any salary we could offer.
Your latest bullshit trick is to smear any club that has any success as a salary cap cheat and to imply that it is impossible to compete for success - this is how mediocrity and failure is rewarded with interminable longevity, through endless "bulletproof" excuses like "everyone else is cheating".
I don't think they're all cheating, I only think some of them are. We know clubs cheat, because several of them have been caught doing it. We also know it must be worth the risk or they wouldn't bother.
No straw man here - you are just pathetic.
So pathetic you chase me around the forum making personal attacks.
People bemoan the fact that the BA debate lives on, but you are the one who keeps it going.
I haven't said a word about BA, I am defending the people currently at the club. The ones who are the new scapegoats after sacking the coach didn't fix anything.
Most of us are hoping that Ryles has rinsed the defeatist culture out of the playing group, but idiots like you continue to take your sly little jabs, all in an attempt to justify the mediocrity of the BA era in comparison and to attempt to shore up your little internet "victories"- at least in your own mind.

You can keep your defence of mediocrity - I want Parramatta to be the powerhouse it rightfully should be.
The players have a 'defeatist culture' now? And yet we've been told they in fact just aren't good enough because Serdaris/MON/etc. didn't want to sign any better ones. Can you see why it looks like you're just lashing out at things you don't understand? I can't let it go unchallenged. It would do us both a disservice.
 

Delboy

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I agree with you. I also think that if Brown had made the call to move on a year earlier, we might have kept Blaize. That said, how much better is Blaize really compared to Lorenzo or Lincoln Fletcher at the same stage of their careers? Has Blaize actually ‘made it’ yet, or is he still very much a work in progress? Personally, I think he’s a bit overrated at this point, with clear defensive shortcomings, and he’s still physically underdeveloped lacking in elite speed or acceleration.
That’s true, my comment was more about the failure to recruit in positions of need and now after being so inactive and difficult, we have cash to spend and are not able to strengthen a young ascending roster. That’s mismanagement 101 .
 

emjaycee

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November 1? Why the f**k do we need to wait for November 1? We can sign players for 2026 and 2027 right now! Unless you have written off 26 and 27 and are already planning for 2028?? 🤦‍♂️
ABSOf**kENLUTELY!!
We should be playing a style of football from Rnd 1 2026 that has Keano (sp) regretting his decision to not join us and others going, "wow, I want in that for 2027".
 

Gary Gutful

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Is that what the Dogs are doing , sure you can come up with your illuminating theories, but the real world survives differently. Doing virtually nothing after 2021/2022 has been the issue no matter what excuse you come up with.

So the Dogs obviously have Gould, Laundy, and their community - we have Jim, not much from the second CBD - and apparently a difficult negotiating team.
The Dogs were exposed like Portuguese Chicken at the back of last season. I reckon we will finish ahead of them this year.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Sorry @Poupou Escobar this site has shat itself for me and I can’t be bothered retyping posts so I’m just sticking with the latest one.
I don't understand what the purpose of this was? Had you replied to another one of mine and the outage ate it?
Would you suggest it is the reason why we made finals 4 straight years?
There's never just one reason why is there? But in a game of inches, you need fight for every inch you can get. Did Al Pacino teach you nothing?
I’ll concede that it helps of course but on an individual contract, I don’t think it affects a lot and certainly not enough to forgo planning around options not being taken up (beyond the plan of “well now we have more money (that good merkins don’t want to accept) to spend). And yeah it could very well be the reason we didn’t sign Koloamatangi, but at least then we won’t be waiting on him to take up an option whilst Ryda Talagi seeks opportunity elsewhere, only to have Kolomatangi go somewhere else
Talagi and Koloamatangi aren't competing for one spot. Neither were Talagi and Drown. We had committed to Drown (before we changed coaches) and so Talagi's opportunity was at fullback, centre or another club. Not keeping him meant we got Iongi; a better fullback. Losing Drown happened afterwards. I don't think there was any scenario where Talagi would've happily stayed 'just in case' Drown left, and I'm sure keeping Drown would've been the priority if Arthur's was still coach. I doubt Ryles was too bothered about losing him, which is the only reason there's Blaize Talagi regretsies.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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explain to me and simple folks here how "shares" in a private company have a "cost price" or can lose value below "cost price"?
Cost price is whatever monetary value they were worth at acquisition. Value of company divided by percentage of ownership. If the company then lost value, so do all its owners.
 

Poupou Escobar

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With so many off contract it’s almost essential by mid year we are sitting in the 8 and looking destined for finals footy or it makes our club far less appealing unless we want to pay overs
By midyear, you'd hope the majority of our 2027 cap will have been spent.
 

85 Baby

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I don't understand what the purpose of this was? Had you replied to another one of mine and the outage ate it?
Twice and again when i
There's never just one reason why is there? But in a game of inches, you need fight for every inch you can get. Did Al Pacino teach you nothing?
He taught me hoo haa!
Talagi and Koloamatangi aren't competing for one spot.
My post was in regard to use of POs.
Neither were Talagi and Drown.
I think in large part they were. Just because one could play elsewhere didn’t mean there wasn’t competition for who was going to play 6.
We had committed to Drown (before we changed coaches) and so Talagi's opportunity was at fullback, centre or another club. Not keeping him meant we got Iongi; a better fullback. Losing Drown happened afterwards. I don't think there was any scenario where Talagi would've happily stayed 'just in case' Drown left, and I'm sure keeping Drown would've been the priority if Arthur's was still coach. I doubt Ryles was too bothered about losing him, which is the only reason there's Blaize Talagi regretsies.
My point was either the lack of forethought or inability to attain a scenario where Brown’s PO isn’t a year after Talagi’s. Maybe it isn’t such a big deal and wasn’t at the time but as I said earlier I doubt that much planning goes into the list management. It’s certainly been very reactive thus far.
 

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