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Tiger5150

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No it's a fact that Twal has remained at the Tigers his entire career and also a fact that they haven't made the finals in 15 years.
These are facts. Your assumption that he is there for money is your hypothesis.

My hypothesis? Alex Twal played at Parra (FACT!). Alex Twal has played at the Tigers (FACT!). Therefore Alex Twal hated his time at Parra so much he is traumatised about the idea of leaving the Tigers. Backed by facts?

Alex Twal the worlds first one club mercenary
 

Poupou Escobar

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You need to go back to the beginning:

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Poupou Escobar

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These are facts. Your assumption that he is there for money is your hypothesis.
Not an assumption, an assessment. My assumption is that no player would go to the Tigers (or stay there) unless they were offered top dollar. Don't freak out, I think this applies to Eels players as well, at least for external recruits. We might be good enough to keep existing players for slightly less than a higher offer from elsewhere. I guess we'll find out. We built a team good enough to scrape into a grand final a couple of years ago, which won't happen if you're paying top dollar for everyone in your squad (another assessment). If we manage it again, it'll show we have some retention advantages, even if we're not on par with the Broncos or Storm.
My hypothesis? Alex Twal played at Parra (FACT!). Alex Twal has played at the Tigers (FACT!). Therefore Alex Twal hated his time at Parra so much he is traumatised about the idea of leaving the Tigers. Backed by facts?

Alex Twal the worlds first one club mercenary
It's certainly possible Twal hated his time at Parra, but that doesn't mean he loves the Tigers.
 

Tiger5150

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You need to go back to the beginning:

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I actually think it is hilarious, ironic and revealing that you and Jokereel try to use Moses as an example of a "Parra Junior" and as an example of Parramatta junior development. I actually agree with you it is an excellent example of Parra junior development.

He played 9 games in Parra HM and Parra told Benny and Mitchells family to move on, we dont want or need you and then played all of his ACTUAL junior development at a club that actually gives a shit about junior development because that is all that they have going for them.

Seems to be a common theme and a clear example of Parra "junior development"

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Poupou Escobar

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I actually think it is hilarious, ironic and revealing that you and Jokereel try to use Moses as an example of a "Parra Junior" and as an example of Parramatta junior development. I actually agree with you it is an excellent example of Parra junior development.
That's because you conflate local junior with 'junior development'. They are two different things, which is why I use the term 'pathways'. Pathways 'development' is a lot more professional and resource intensive than just picking kids from the local comp to play in a junior rep team that the top clubs don't give a shit about. We lost Moses back when we were poor (2010). Back then we used to win Harold Matts all the time while hardly ever winning SG Ball. Because cashed up pathways clubs (like the Tigers back then) used to poach our best local juniors.
He played 9 games in Parra HM and Parra told Benny and Mitchells family to move on, we dont want or need you and then played all of his ACTUAL junior development at a club that actually gives a shit about junior development because that is all that they have going for them.

Seems to be a common theme and a clear example of Parra "junior development"

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The shoe is on the other foot now (since 2022 and also a couple of years before Covid) and we are now poaching juniors from other clubs' backyards. Our SG Ball side will probably dominate this year, and it is full of kids poached from elsewhere. But as they become worthy of top 30 contracts, the salary cap becomes a limiting factor and we will lose some of them. Just like you do. But don't pretend we don't have quality local juniors, or a well funded pathways program. Last year was the first time we've had entirely full time pathways coaching staff. It's very exciting.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Dont stop digging now Pou.....give me a list of ALL the one club mercenaries. Or is Twally one of one?
You understand mercenary refers to motivation rather than number of clubs? We aren't talking about merkins with itchy feet here. If the money is right, they will remain anywhere.
 

eels_fan

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Ryan Matterson's future appears to be in doubt after the Parramatta forward reportedly suffered another concussion during pre-season.

According to The Sydney Morning Herald, the 31-year-old will seek medical opinion after the latest setback in a career that has been riddled with head knocks.

Matterson was not named for the Eels trial game against the Roosters on Saturday and has been dealing with suspected concussion symptoms of late.

 

Johnny88

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Tripp of the tongue: Peter V’landys denies favouritism towards Melbourne Storm and Zac Lomax​

The NRL boss has fired back at conspiracy theories linking him to Melbourne Storm’s Zac Lomax pursuit, citing a High Court battle that makes helping impossible.
Andrew Webster

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left

Peter V'landys says he will not do Matt Tripp any favours over Zac Lomax, left
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys has slammed talk he wants rugby league outcast Zac Lomaxto join the Melbourne Storm as a favour to their chairman, bookmaker Matt Tripp, declaring: “If there’s one person I wouldn’t help, it would be him.”
As Parramatta and the club-less winger hurtle towards a showdown in the NSW Supreme Court on March 2, all sorts of theories are getting around about why the NRL has seemingly pitted itself against the Eels.
One is looming broadcast negotiations. A strong Storm is critical. The other is V’landys helping Tripp because of their long-term relationship through racing. Eels officials are conscious of it, even if they haven’t expressed it publicly.
“Matt Tripp took me all the way to the High Court in the race-fields case, which has generated billions of dollars for racing,” V’landys told his column in a lengthy interview this week. “He’s the last person I’d help.”
One of V’landys’ greatest victories as Racing NSW chief executive was convincing government regulators in 2012 to slug online bookies a percentage of betting turnover. Tripp, who at the time operated Betfair and had the financial backing of billionaire James Packer, led the charge against the legislation.
The dispute went all the way to the highest court in the land and V’landys triumphed.
“Matt Tripp knows I wasn’t supporting him (over Lomax) because he knew my stance about (upholding) a contract,” V’landys said. “And Matt Beach, the chairman of Parramatta, we had meetings with him. We tried to see if they could come to a resolution, and I was equally hard on both.
“There’s no way we ever took a side. We just tried to find a resolution. My aim was to find a resolution that satisfied both parties, and that, unfortunately, didn’t happen.”
The Eels are sceptical. They’re expected to argue in court that a phone hook-up involving V’landys, Tripp, Beach, and RLPA boss Clint Newton was more “ambush” than mediation. They will also tell the court the Storm were privy to possible salary cap implications if they did not release Lomax – information that could only have come from the NRL.
Parramatta released Lomax last year so he could join rebel rugby competition R360 on the condition that he couldn’t join another NRL club without their permission.
From the very beginning of this dispute, their rich leagues club has told Beach and chief executive Jim Sarantinos that it will back them until the bitter end.
That’s some undertaking considering it’s about to undergo a $330m redevelopment of its licenced premises.
Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images

Zac Lomax takes on the Storm last season. Picture: NRL Images
Why should they cave in? Lomax told them he wanted a release from the final three years of his deal to play in a competition that appears to have been conceived on the back of a beer coaster.
If Lomax was naive enough to walk away from one contract without any real certainty around the R360 competition, it’s on him.
V’landys this week told media outlets that he respected Lomax as a human, talking about his charity work with sick children and expressing concern about his mental health. Privately, the Eels are angry that he played those cards because they’re irrelevant to the case.
Yet V’landys bristles at the claim he’s sided with the Storm in this dispute.
“I’m not keen for Zac Lomax to join Melbourne,” he insisted. “He can join whatever club that wants him. If the Wests Tigers want him, I’d be just as happy for him to go them. Or if Manly want him. I just don’t want Zac Lomax to be lost to rugby league.”
 

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