Sack the whole team thread

[HarVeeGee]

Yeah true, Tapine definitely a prop for the "late footwork at the line" era rather than the "off the back fence" era which preceded it.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

There are way more factors at play with how a player develops then just coaching and what club they’re at. Things like family situation, their maturity as an individual at that time and what life lessons they’ve learned, their personal circumstances etc.

This doesn’t change the fact that it’s a worrying trend we’re looking at. But hindsight is always 20/20 and I don’t really buy into the whole idea of every player that we let go has gotten better or would have been better had we kept them etc.

 

[HarVeeGee]

Yeah for sure.

The Warriors currently give big roles to three forwards they signed who were a little on the older side when they got them, and already had a lot of experience against men but, it turns out, also had a lot more in them at NRL level than they'd previously shown: Mitchell Barnett, Jackson Ford and Erin Clark.

This may just be luck - they signed who they could get and all three panned out great for them. But honestly it's the same thing that happens a lot at Melbourne and I tend to not assume something is a coincidence if it keeps happening. All three were at clubs where there are big question marks about coaching quality, so that's probably a good place to start when you're looking for this sort of value buy. Maybe someone like Jaiman Joliffe has another level in him?

POS as a recruitment guy is known to be more of a guy with an eye for young talent with the potential to be truly elite (eg way more the guy who spots someone in a system that the other club definitely thinks is a good prospect, but POS identifies them as a GREAT prospect), not sure about his track record for identifying older decent players on the verge of becoming really good. But it would be very handy to hit on a couple ASAP.

 

[Yosh]

I think in the modern NRL you need halves and middle forwards who are near 30 or have had at least 5/6 solid seasons in the NRL already. Recruit for this player but develop the rest.

I still think we need a proper halfback. Pity there is no one available to target. I don't think a spine of Crossland/Sharpe/Brown/Ponga is going to work. No leadership, no cool heads, not enough experience in the spine. Spine is as talented as they come but they are too raw and probably strengths and weaknesses overlap.

Meh, just my two cents.

 

[SamSepi0l]

I think in the modern NRL you need halves and middle forwards who are near 30 or have had at least 5/6 solid seasons in the NRL already. Recruit for this player but develop the rest.

I still think we need a proper halfback. Pity there is no one available to target. I don't think a spine of Crossland/Sharpe/Brown/Ponga is going to work. No leadership, no cool heads, not enough experience in the spine. Spine is as talented as they come but they are too raw and probably strengths and weaknesses overlap.

Meh, just my two cents.

I think you nailed it with the spine. Only thing Brown brings we don't have is experience and a long kicking game. And tbh class.

 

[Rod]

Yeah for sure.

The Warriors currently give big roles to three forwards they signed who were a little on the older side when they got them, and already had a lot of experience against men but, it turns out, also had a lot more in them at NRL level than they'd previously shown: Mitchell Barnett, Jackson Ford and Erin Clark.

This may just be luck - they signed who they could get and all three panned out great for them. But honestly it's the same thing that happens a lot at Melbourne and I tend to not assume something is a coincidence if it keeps happening. All three were at clubs where there are big question marks about coaching quality, so that's probably a good place to start when you're looking for this sort of value buy. Maybe someone like Jaiman Joliffe has another level in him?

POS as a recruitment guy is known to be more of a guy with an eye for young talent with the potential to be truly elite (eg way more the guy who spots someone in a system that the other club definitely thinks is a good prospect, but POS identifies them as a GREAT prospect), not sure about his track record for identifying older decent players on the verge of becoming really good. But it would be very handy to hit on a couple ASAP.

Jackson Ford is very much a plodder. They've definitely gone 2/3 though, Clark was an amazing buy.