SBW not that impressive...

[Tekken Lord]

Originally Posted by The Preacher
Don't worry about the ticks on the start sheet WTF, just watch both and it makes the stats look stupid.
It works like this, there's....
1. LIES
2. f**king LIES
3. Statistics
It's not hard to read what's not really there when looking at stat sheets from different players in different games.

I know that, when i watch them both i think they both look better than those stats, the biggest difference between the two is SBW is a match winner.

 

[Nathan B]

As soon as you bring money into this, you're comparing apples and oranges.

If you insist, then compare Mateo with the '04 Sonny. Now, remind me... what did Sonny do in '04?

Mmmm... Oh, that's right. He played a major a role in his team winning the NRL premiership. (Not to mention backing that up with a MOM performance in the following Test match.)

All yours, Mateo.

 

[Tekken Lord]

Originally Posted by B-Tron 3000
So the quality of a team's backline is measured by how many games they win is it?

And you claim that WTF has no idea :lol:

You beat me to it, i was about to make that comment, though it would have been a little different and i still stand by parra having the best backline in the comp.

 

[Tekken Lord]

Originally Posted by Nathan B
As soon as you bring money into this, you're comparing apples and oranges.

If you insist, then compare Mateo with the '04 Sonny. Now, remind me... what did Sonny do in '04?

Mmmm... Oh, that's right. He played a major a role in his team winning the NRL premiership. (Not to mention backing that up with a MOM performance in the following Test match.)

All yours, Mateo.

I said the biggest difference between the two is SBW is a match winner, nobody is saying Mateo is better.

 

[_Johnsy]

Mateo = yeah, whatever

SBW = get him in the red V ASAP.

Big, Big difference between the two.

 

[Tekken Lord]

The difference being SBW is a match winner.

 

[Redback71]

what is impressive is that mateo has played less minutes and is almost beating him in the stats.

 

[Dogaholic]

Another difference is that Sonny makes average players like Millard look really good.

 

[_Johnsy]

defence, ball playing ability, hole running,.......... need I go on ?

 

[Tekken Lord]

Mateo has better ball playing ability than SBW, ffs he played half for the Australian schoolboys team.

 

[Tekken Lord]

Originally Posted by Dogaholic
Another difference is that Sonny makes average players like Millard look really good.

:lol:

 

[_Johnsy]

I am talking about ball playing as a forward, offloads with defence on him.

He played 1/2 whoopdie fuggin do. Kepp telling yourself that mateo has better ball playing skills as a forward.:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Tekken Lord]

Did you look at the stats, Mateo has played less time and almost has the same amout of offloads, ffs you're a genius, why don't you base your argument on some facts. SBW 59 offloads Feleti Mateo 50. This is with Mateo averaging almost 12 minutes less a game.

 

[_Johnsy]

An offload can consist of dropping a ball behind, or throwing it out the back. I am talking about hitting the line and offloading to a support player.

The need to expalin this shows your lack of knowledge. Resorting to personal insults, your going very well.

 

[Dogaholic]

Has Mateo played every game this year?

If so then you would need to take into account that Sonny has been suspended for 3 games this year, played 3 minutes of the knights game in round 1 and was injured for 1 game.

 

[Tekken Lord]

Orginally Posted by _Johnsy
An offload can consist of dropping a ball behind, or throwing it out the back. I am talking about hitting the line and offloading to a support player.

The need to expalin this shows your lack of knowledge. Resorting to personal insults, your going very well.

Mateo offloads to support, obviously you've never seen the kid play, the need to explain that shows you have no idea what you're talking about. So why don't you talk facts instead of just assuming what you say is right.

 

[Tekken Lord]

Originally Posted by Dogaholic
Has Mateo played every game this year?

If so then you would need to take into account that Sonny has been suspended for 3 games this year, played 3 minutes of the knights game in round 1 and was injured for 1 game.

I don't think Mateo has, i'm pretty sure he didn't play the first game but i don't know for sure, but wouldn't the stats take all that into consideration, if they don't then their is something wrong.

 

[Azkatro]

He puts bums on seats. That's impressive in itself.

 

[Dogaholic]

I don't think Mateo has, i'm pretty sure he didn't play the first game but i don't know for sure, but wouldn't the stats take all that into consideration, if they don't then their is something wrong.

Did you look at the stats, Mateo has played less time and almost has the same amout of offloads, ffs you're a genius, why don't you base your argument on some facts. SBW 59 offloads Feleti Mateo 50. This is with Mateo averaging almost 12 minutes less a game.

Do we really need to say more?

Although Sonny averages more minutes, he has most likely played less minutes then Mateo.

The total offlaods, try's, try assists do not take total games played into account.

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

What is most impressive about Sonny's stats is the amount of work he is doing,

Sonny Bill Williams 66.5 minutes 22.8 tackles 15.6 runs 127.8 meters 59 offloads

Those stats would stand up with the likes of Hindmarsh and Dallas Johnson.

If anything I’m now more impressed with SBW.